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Please Bioware, give Shadow a Phase Disruptor! (NOW WITH A POLL)

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:26

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Please get rid of Electric Slash and give Shadow a Phase Disruptor.

Reason Nr.1:
She already has a palm blaster thingy that is not utilized ;) 

Reason Nr.2 and most important:

Gameplay! Electric Slash ruins the flow and the dynamic nature of the Shadow as a CQC character. It's generic, slow, boring and unexciting to use! And it's annoying too. It's powerful, yes, but it just screams "spam me while hiding behind a wall till the end of time". And people do that. I had lots of matches were players did NOTHING else but spammed ES behind walls. It's no risk power with big reward. 

Phase Disruptor however would be a much more fun power that would involve shields management, proper positioning and use of Shadow Strike. The Disruptor would suplement Shadow Strike and provide immediate crowd control Shadow lacks at a cost to her shields. It would provide balance between risk and reward.

Phase Disruptor just SUITS the Shadow as it suits the Phantom. 

PS: To clarify. by saying Phase Disruptor I mean a Palm Blaster. It doesn't have to be the same as the Slayers. 

Please make it happen Bioware. Pretty please? :wub: 

Poll here: 

social.bioware.com/3772456/polls/39869/


 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 09 octobre 2012 - 12:30 .

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:28

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Her face...... put the mask back on.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:29

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The reason the slayer has it is because bioctic charge gives him a way to recharge shields. While cloaked you can't recharge shields, combined with the aggressive nature of ss making you teleport right behind them. Just my 2 cents.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:30

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Jamofend wrote...

The reason the slayer has it is because bioctic charge gives him a way to recharge shields. While cloaked you can't recharge shields, combined with the aggressive nature of ss making you teleport right behind them. Just my 2 cents.


You have an option to drain shields with SS. And you have option for damage reduction. Those would make the use of PD easier. 

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:31

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Having phase disruptor on a Shadow sounds fun, but the class would be way too difficult to play. I'm assuming that phase disruptor would use shields instead of barriers on a Shadow. If that were the case, then you would hardly be able to use it considering your shields don't recharge while you are cloaked and you don't have biotic charge to fill them back up. You would have to completely redesign phase disruptor (cooldown power, doesn't use shields/barriers) in order for the class to be more effective and I don't like the idea of people touching my phase disruptor.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:32

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I wonder what the Cerberus Phantoms look like now lol

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:33

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Los Tacos Bueno wrote...

Having phase disruptor on a Shadow sounds fun, but the class would be way too difficult to play. I'm assuming that phase disruptor would use shields instead of barriers on a Shadow. If that were the case, then you would hardly be able to use it considering your shields don't recharge while you are cloaked and you don't have biotic charge to fill them back up. You would have to completely redesign phase disruptor (cooldown power, doesn't use shields/barriers) in order for the class to be more effective and I don't like the idea of people touching my phase disruptor.


Give her a modified version. Different from the Slayer. Also as i said before, you can drain shields with SS. 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 27 septembre 2012 - 06:33 .

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:33

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Uhh... it consumed barrier, as it is a biotic power. As the phantoms are biotic.
Plus, the Slayer is already a powerhouse at single-target damage, tech slash is useful as a situational power for clearing enemy clusters.
As an Infi, shields are simply too valuable. One should be in cloak the majority of the time, and while cloaked, shields do not regenerate.

If we were to propose a transfer between these two of any kind, I would say give the Slayer sword mastery and maybe he'd suck less. As it is, all of his potential is pivoted on Biotic Slash spam.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:33

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Air Quotes wrote...

Jamofend wrote...

The reason the slayer has it is because bioctic charge gives him a way to recharge shields. While cloaked you can't recharge shields, combined with the aggressive nature of ss making you teleport right behind them. Just my 2 cents.


You have an option to drain shields with SS. And you have option for damage reduction. Those would make the use of PD easier. 


And thus, it would make a viable alternate to a full damage Shadow, because ES is stupid.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:34

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StrawHatMoose wrote...

Her face...... put the mask back on.


But she's pretty :wub:

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:34

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She's got an Electrical Slash, just like the Slayer has a Biotic Slash. Why not have an Electrical Phase Disruptor? I would definitely have enjoyed that more than the Slash.

Wow... can you imagine how much damage a cloaked PD would do though (at least 2 within the cycle with potshots in between)?

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:34

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Karsciyin wrote...

Uhh... it consumed barrier, as it is a biotic power. As the phantoms are biotic.
Plus, the Slayer is already a powerhouse at single-target damage, tech slash is useful as a situational power for clearing enemy clusters.
As an Infi, shields are simply too valuable. One should be in cloak the majority of the time, and while cloaked, shields do not regenerate.

If we were to propose a transfer between these two of any kind, I would say give the Slayer sword mastery and maybe he'd suck less. As it is, all of his potential is pivoted on Biotic Slash spam.


Read the previous posts. And Phantoms are not strictly Biotics. 

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:34

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As a huge fan of the Slayer (it's my favorite character in my favorite class), I like that he has a completely unique power. I don't think I'd like PD on any other characters.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:35

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I agree on this, when the Earth dlc was announced i hoped for her palm blaster to actually do something, electric stash has it uses even with 3 points but still we want phantom in infiltrator version, Also imagine the tac cloak with phase distrutor, 2 shots unnoticed or 1 shot 1 shadow strike (shield recharged enemy defeated win-win)

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:35

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She's got an Electrical Slash, just like the Slayer has a Biotic Slash. Why not have an Electrical Phase Disruptor? I would definitely have enjoyed that more than the Slash.

Wow... can you imagine how much damage a cloaked PD would do though (at least 2 within the cycle with potshots in between)?


You risk your shields and death for damage. I'd like that. 

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:35

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Air Quotes wrote...

Los Tacos Bueno wrote...

Having phase disruptor on a Shadow sounds fun, but the class would be way too difficult to play. I'm assuming that phase disruptor would use shields instead of barriers on a Shadow. If that were the case, then you would hardly be able to use it considering your shields don't recharge while you are cloaked and you don't have biotic charge to fill them back up. You would have to completely redesign phase disruptor (cooldown power, doesn't use shields/barriers) in order for the class to be more effective and I don't like the idea of people touching my phase disruptor.


Give her a modified version. Different from the Slayer. Also As i said before, you can drain shields with SS. 

Ya, I read that right after I posted. I had forgot about that recharge perk.

Anyways, if it can work, I would approve of anything to replace that horrid screen shaking power.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:36

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:37

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BuckshotSamurai wrote...

As a huge fan of the Slayer (it's my favorite character in my favorite class), I like that he has a completely unique power. I don't think I'd like PD on any other characters.


She could have a different PD. Also unique. In any case it would be much more fun and interesting than the boring and generic ES don't you think? 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 27 septembre 2012 - 06:38 .

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:38

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Karsciyin wrote...

Uhh... it consumed barrier, as it is a biotic power. As the phantoms are biotic.
Plus, the Slayer is already a powerhouse at single-target damage, tech slash is useful as a situational power for clearing enemy clusters.
As an Infi, shields are simply too valuable. One should be in cloak the majority of the time, and while cloaked, shields do not regenerate.

If we were to propose a transfer between these two of any kind, I would say give the Slayer sword mastery and maybe he'd suck less. As it is, all of his potential is pivoted on Biotic Slash spam.



I would love Sword Mastery on the Slayer, but you are dead wrong thinking the Slayer sucks.  He is the best character on the game.

Also, Phase Disruptor is not a Biotic Power, it is a Combat Power which is why it detonates Tech Bursts, Cryo Explosions & Fire Explosions but not Biotic Explosions.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:38

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Air Quotes wrote...

Jamofend wrote...

The reason the slayer has it is because bioctic charge gives him a way to recharge shields. While cloaked you can't recharge shields, combined with the aggressive nature of ss making you teleport right behind them. Just my 2 cents.


You have an option to drain shields with SS. And you have option for damage reduction. Those would make the use of PD easier. 


Except SS can only drain shields and barriers from enemies with those defenses, while BC can restore shields and barriers regardless of who the target is. 

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:39

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Air Quotes wrote...

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

As a huge fan of the Slayer (it's my favorite character in my favorite class), I like that he has a completely unique power. I don't think I'd like PD on any other characters.


She could have a different PD. Also unique. In any case it would be much mroe fun and interesting than the boring and generic ES don't you think? 



I think the Shadow should just have the Palm Dart power that the Phantoms use.  A two shot burst with ability to upgrade it to 3 shots. 

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:41

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Mendelevosa wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Jamofend wrote...

The reason the slayer has it is because bioctic charge gives him a way to recharge shields. While cloaked you can't recharge shields, combined with the aggressive nature of ss making you teleport right behind them. Just my 2 cents.


You have an option to drain shields with SS. And you have option for damage reduction. Those would make the use of PD easier. 


Except SS can only drain shields and barriers from enemies with those defenses, while BC can restore shields and barriers regardless of who the target is. 

That's true, but Infiltrators get crazy bonuses from TC, and they can also cloak and escape because of TC.  That's a lot of survivability, and I like the thought of having a high risk, high reward option for an Infiltrator.  It would bring about more strategic gameplay for the Shadow, which I'm all for.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:41

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Mendelevosa wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Jamofend wrote...

The reason the slayer has it is because bioctic charge gives him a way to recharge shields. While cloaked you can't recharge shields, combined with the aggressive nature of ss making you teleport right behind them. Just my 2 cents.


You have an option to drain shields with SS. And you have option for damage reduction. Those would make the use of PD easier. 


Except SS can only drain shields and barriers from enemies with those defenses, while BC can restore shields and barriers regardless of who the target is. 




Well obviously you wouldn't just be able to PD nonstop like the Slayer can, you'd have to pick and choose your PD shots like any good Slayer should.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:42

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Mendelevosa wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

Jamofend wrote...

The reason the slayer has it is because bioctic charge gives him a way to recharge shields. While cloaked you can't recharge shields, combined with the aggressive nature of ss making you teleport right behind them. Just my 2 cents.


You have an option to drain shields with SS. And you have option for damage reduction. Those would make the use of PD easier. 


Except SS can only drain shields and barriers from enemies with those defenses, while BC can restore shields and barriers regardless of who the target is. 


So you'll have to be more tactical on when to use it. Plus Shadow can be given a different PD. Maybe more efficient. With less damage. Maybe with other different properties. 

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:42

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I would only be ok with it if the shadow version of PD would not use up shields, because if it did, it would be useless. I do like the idea of getting rid of slash, on both characters really, but the shadow version of PD would need a great AOE stagger effect. When I use slash on shadow I use it if I run into a group of enemies and don't want to rush in and get myself killed.

The current PD has no cooldown, give the shadow version a cooldown and not use up shields then it sounds great to me.

Modifié par ClockworkSpectre, 27 septembre 2012 - 06:43 .

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