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Please Bioware, give Shadow a Phase Disruptor! (NOW WITH A POLL)


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air quotes, being objective here, if they did have it, wouldnt just forgettting shadow strike, picking 80% damage bonus, and flinging 5 PD's with an 80% damage boost from a distance regardless of the consequences be viable?
i mean people spec out of fitness on everything anyway, and you can do 4/5 pds and keep shieldgate.

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^ You don't know how to play the game or how it works. Clearly.

20% drain for massive damage, stagger and fire splosions + tech bursts in addition to SS and weapon damage is a very little price to pay. And you make a big deal of Shadows shields and how you would die if you use PD a couple of times.

You have speed, you have cloak, you have 50% DR dodge, you can have DR from SS too.

PD would make her a dream Infiltrator and freaking beast, that's fun to use. Like Fury.

Can't outrun bullets, cloak's down for 3 seconds after a SS-PD combo so that's out as far as SSing into a spawn goes, the 50% Dr from dodging is going ot have to make up for the shields you burn using PD, and the DR from SS doesn't prevent you from being killed when SS goes wrong. When SS goes wrong, you'll pretty much have no shields.

The whole thing hinges on the entire spawn being primed, and your SS working. It's ludicrous, IMO.

We're just gunna have to agree to disagree on this. You can not seem to sell me on the idea because I don't care how "cool" it is, or if Shadow has a palm blaster in her design.

 

I'm done arguing. L2P. 




4 months later and you are still on this kick? PD is overpowered. Giving this ability to a class with TC would break the class. Just give it up, seriously.


Slayer PD after Charge = 40% boost and Slayer can charge all the time. 
Shadows PD out of Duration Cloak - 40% boost 

It's equal. So stop QQ


Shadow can get 80% and is not required to charge into a group of enemies to achieve the bonus. How is this equal again?


Again. She will not be able to recharge shields at will. No Charge. Are you gonna use Ops packs everytime you run out of shields? And Damage cloak will ruin your Shadow Strike and Bonus power.  


My goodness, you are clueless. You are an Infiltrator. PD has some decent range. Damage cloak lasts more than long enough to get an evo 6 PD  and then another before cloak breaks. If you host, you might even get 3 in with an 80% bonus. Then you wait a second for your shields to come back. With equipment, this can be negated to almost no time at all.

You really shouldn't be tossing out L2P comments to others until you L2P yourself.

 

LOL. No diffrence from the Slayer. PD from very long range is not very accurate and CC is not reliable. And the time it takes for your shields to fully come back is more than 3 seconds. That 80% bonus will even out. And there will be enemies shooting at you. And you will have more trouble with objective waves.  

You will not be able to spam it like Slayer does. Not on Gold/Platinum. But it will be effective in combo with SS and ammo powers. 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 18 janvier 2013 - 09:09 .


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On another semi-related note,

What is with you people and saying 'put the mask back on'? She looks fine.

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air quotes, being objective here, if they did have it, wouldnt just forgettting shadow strike, picking 80% damage bonus, and flinging 5 PD's with an 80% damage boost from a distance regardless of the consequences be viable?
i mean people spec out of fitness on everything anyway, and you can do 4/5 pds and keep shieldgate.

 

So you will do 5 PD's and end up with no shields. And no cloak. So you will have to wait out of cloak for 5 seconds till your shields fill up again. Or run around like a chicken. If you don't get shot. if you cloak - shields stop regening. DPS evens out. 

I though about it. 

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Air Quotes wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

air quotes, being objective here, if they did have it, wouldnt just forgettting shadow strike, picking 80% damage bonus, and flinging 5 PD's with an 80% damage boost from a distance regardless of the consequences be viable?
i mean people spec out of fitness on everything anyway, and you can do 4/5 pds and keep shieldgate.

 

So you will do 5 PD's and end up with no shields. And no cloak. So you will have to wait out of cloak for 5 seconds till your shields fill up again. Or run around like a chicken. If you don't get shot. if you cloak - shields stop regening. DPS evens out. 

I though about it. 


hope you dont think im tryin to stir up an argument, just considering alternatives and im sure someone would try this, and eventually the bsn would say it was the only way to play her.

people were telling us how we "had" to play the
huntress before she was even released, ( reegar/acolyte incediary or l2p) thank god for the glitch lol. ( yes im serious)

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 18 janvier 2013 - 09:11 .


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air quotes, being objective here, if they did have it, wouldnt just forgettting shadow strike, picking 80% damage bonus, and flinging 5 PD's with an 80% damage boost from a distance regardless of the consequences be viable?
i mean people spec out of fitness on everything anyway, and you can do 4/5 pds and keep shieldgate.

 

So you will do 5 PD's and end up with no shields. And no cloak. So you will have to wait out of cloak for 5 seconds till your shields fill up again. Or run around like a chicken. If you don't get shot. if you cloak - shields stop regening. DPS evens out. 

I though about it. 


hope you dont think im tryin to argue, just considering alternatives and im sure someone would try this, and eventually the bsn would say it was the only wya to play her.

people were telling us how we "had" to play the
huntress before she was even released, thank god for the glitch lol. ( yes im serious)

 

Arguing is fine if you know what you're talking about and play the kit a lot (on higher difficulties) 

If Bioware would make me a "Tweaked" Shadow with PD instead of ES, I would beta test the **** out of it. :lol:

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Air Quotes wrote...
 :lol: /snip

 i played the shadow and slayer so much before the challenges came out i got semi-bored of the classes, so you wont see alot of playthroughs of them on my n7 hq, but yeah i have.
slayer consumed basically all of my shotgun amps so i had to build them back up.

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^ You don't know how to play the game or how it works. Clearly.

20% drain for massive damage, stagger and fire splosions + tech bursts in addition to SS and weapon damage is a very little price to pay. And you make a big deal of Shadows shields and how you would die if you use PD a couple of times.

You have speed, you have cloak, you have 50% DR dodge, you can have DR from SS too.

PD would make her a dream Infiltrator and freaking beast, that's fun to use. Like Fury.

Can't outrun bullets, cloak's down for 3 seconds after a SS-PD combo so that's out as far as SSing into a spawn goes, the 50% Dr from dodging is going ot have to make up for the shields you burn using PD, and the DR from SS doesn't prevent you from being killed when SS goes wrong. When SS goes wrong, you'll pretty much have no shields.

The whole thing hinges on the entire spawn being primed, and your SS working. It's ludicrous, IMO.

We're just gunna have to agree to disagree on this. You can not seem to sell me on the idea because I don't care how "cool" it is, or if Shadow has a palm blaster in her design.

 

I'm done arguing. L2P. 




4 months later and you are still on this kick? PD is overpowered. Giving this ability to a class with TC would break the class. Just give it up, seriously.


Slayer PD after Charge = 40% boost and Slayer can charge all the time. 
Shadows PD out of Duration Cloak - 40% boost 

It's equal. So stop QQ


Shadow can get 80% and is not required to charge into a group of enemies to achieve the bonus. How is this equal again?


Again. She will not be able to recharge shields at will. No Charge. Are you gonna use Ops packs everytime you run out of shields? And Damage cloak will ruin your Shadow Strike and Bonus power.  


My goodness, you are clueless. You are an Infiltrator. PD has some decent range. Damage cloak lasts more than long enough to get an evo 6 PD  and then another before cloak breaks. If you host, you might even get 3 in with an 80% bonus. Then you wait a second for your shields to come back. With equipment, this can be negated to almost no time at all.

You really shouldn't be tossing out L2P comments to others until you L2P yourself.

 

LOL. No diffrence from the Slayer. PD from very long range is not very accurate and CC is not reliable. And the time it takes for your shields to fully come back is more than 3 seconds. That 80% bonus will even out. And there will be enemies shooting at you. And you will have more trouble with objective waves.  

You will not be able to spam it like Slayer does. Not on Gold/Platinum. But it will be effective in combo with SS and ammo powers. 



It is accurate if you know how to use it. The 80% will not even out because there is a delay on Charge as well. There are always enemies shooting at you, soft/hard cover is a great ally.

The only logical reason you have given in any of your arguments is that the graphic is present for a hand blaster. Every other point you have listed has been proven wrong or misguided. When you look at the fact that the model was copied and moderately changed so it didn't look 'exactly' like a Phantom, it would be just as logical for me to ask BW to remove the non-functioning graphic from her hand. Problem solved.

In any case, it seems at this point you are merely arguing to get free bumps, because you certainly are not putting forth new points that haven't already been refuted by multiple players with sound counter-arguments. I won't be giving your flawed reasoning any further free bumps and I would suggest to the rest of the community to let this post simply die, or let it get locked from you self-bumping it too many times.

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I wonder what the Cerberus Phantoms look like now lol


Dont even go there.

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I always thought it was weird that she didn't get PD given that she's our phantom equivalent. I know they'll never do it, but I think it would be awesome if she did have it. Not sure how it would be implemented since it drains barrier and thus, works much better on a vanguard.

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^ You don't know how to play the game or how it works. Clearly.

20% drain for massive damage, stagger and fire splosions + tech bursts in addition to SS and weapon damage is a very little price to pay. And you make a big deal of Shadows shields and how you would die if you use PD a couple of times.

You have speed, you have cloak, you have 50% DR dodge, you can have DR from SS too.

PD would make her a dream Infiltrator and freaking beast, that's fun to use. Like Fury.

Can't outrun bullets, cloak's down for 3 seconds after a SS-PD combo so that's out as far as SSing into a spawn goes, the 50% Dr from dodging is going ot have to make up for the shields you burn using PD, and the DR from SS doesn't prevent you from being killed when SS goes wrong. When SS goes wrong, you'll pretty much have no shields.

The whole thing hinges on the entire spawn being primed, and your SS working. It's ludicrous, IMO.

We're just gunna have to agree to disagree on this. You can not seem to sell me on the idea because I don't care how "cool" it is, or if Shadow has a palm blaster in her design.

 

I'm done arguing. L2P. 




4 months later and you are still on this kick? PD is overpowered. Giving this ability to a class with TC would break the class. Just give it up, seriously.


Slayer PD after Charge = 40% boost and Slayer can charge all the time. 
Shadows PD out of Duration Cloak - 40% boost 

It's equal. So stop QQ


Shadow can get 80% and is not required to charge into a group of enemies to achieve the bonus. How is this equal again?


Again. She will not be able to recharge shields at will. No Charge. Are you gonna use Ops packs everytime you run out of shields? And Damage cloak will ruin your Shadow Strike and Bonus power.  


My goodness, you are clueless. You are an Infiltrator. PD has some decent range. Damage cloak lasts more than long enough to get an evo 6 PD  and then another before cloak breaks. If you host, you might even get 3 in with an 80% bonus. Then you wait a second for your shields to come back. With equipment, this can be negated to almost no time at all.

You really shouldn't be tossing out L2P comments to others until you L2P yourself.

 

LOL. No diffrence from the Slayer. PD from very long range is not very accurate and CC is not reliable. And the time it takes for your shields to fully come back is more than 3 seconds. That 80% bonus will even out. And there will be enemies shooting at you. And you will have more trouble with objective waves.  

You will not be able to spam it like Slayer does. Not on Gold/Platinum. But it will be effective in combo with SS and ammo powers. 



It is accurate if you know how to use it. The 80% will not even out because there is a delay on Charge as well. There are always enemies shooting at you, soft/hard cover is a great ally.

The only logical reason you have given in any of your arguments is that the graphic is present for a hand blaster. Every other point you have listed has been proven wrong or misguided. When you look at the fact that the model was copied and moderately changed so it didn't look 'exactly' like a Phantom, it would be just as logical for me to ask BW to remove the non-functioning graphic from her hand. Problem solved.

In any case, it seems at this point you are merely arguing to get free bumps, because you certainly are not putting forth new points that haven't already been refuted by multiple players with sound counter-arguments. I won't be giving your flawed reasoning any further free bumps and I would suggest to the rest of the community to let this post simply die, or let it get locked from you self-bumping it too many times.


 
 
Slayer - PD PD PD PD PD - Charge - PD PD PD PD PD - Charge 

Shadow - PD PD PD PD PD - WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT- PD PD PD PD PD -  WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 18 janvier 2013 - 03:45 .


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No. No no no no NO. I like that the Earth characters all have unique power sets. Why dilute that? Luckily there is almost NO chance of this happening, so YAY. Also, CAPS.

 

Not all of them. And if we see more DLC and more characters, you can bet that Earth DLC powers will be reused on new kits.  

And that's not even the point. The point is - Shadow lacks CC. Shadow Strike gets interrupted by cheating enemies, and ES is slow.

Fury has already been bastardized.:(By asari clones no less.

Slayer and shadow already "share" a power, now they'd be sharing a different power.

Sense, palmof40sorrows makes none.

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instead of Phase Disruptor power for the Shadow, why not just have an extra weapon slot that gives us the Phantom's palmshot weapon for any kit to use. I know that sounds like a stupid question, but I think that would be a better option than taking away one of there already awesome powers

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