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Please Bioware, give Shadow a Phase Disruptor! (NOW WITH A POLL)

Débuté par Guest_Air Quotes_* , sept. 27 2012 06:26

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:42

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BuckshotSamurai wrote...

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As a huge fan of the Slayer (it's my favorite character in my favorite class), I like that he has a completely unique power. I don't think I'd like PD on any other characters.


She could have a different PD. Also unique. In any case it would be much mroe fun and interesting than the boring and generic ES don't you think? 



I think the Shadow should just have the Palm Dart power that the Phantoms use.  A two shot burst with ability to upgrade it to 3 shots. 

Like no area of effect? That would make it differ from PD well. Make it deal similar power becuase people will probably cloak to buff it.

Modifié par Los Tacos Bueno, 27 septembre 2012 - 06:44 .

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:44

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Glorious ass model... and err.. personality

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:44

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Shield consuming attack powers are more interesting when you don't have a free shield recharge like Biotic Charge.

This is not a bad idea really. I hate Electric Slash.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:45

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I would only be ok with it if the shadow version of PD would not use up shields, because if it did, it would be useless. I do like the idea of getting rid of slash, on both characters really, but the shadow version of PD would need a great AOE stagger effect. When I use slash on shadow I use it if I run into a group of enemies and don't want to rush in and get myself killed.

The current PD has no cooldown, give the shadow version a cooldown and not use up shields then it sounds great to me.


Or it could do MASSIVE damage in a couple of bursts, but would require you to lose shields and risk. 

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:45

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Air Quotes wrote...

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

As a huge fan of the Slayer (it's my favorite character in my favorite class), I like that he has a completely unique power. I don't think I'd like PD on any other characters.


She could have a different PD. Also unique. In any case it would be much more fun and interesting than the boring and generic ES don't you think? 




Yes it would be more interesting.  I can't stand the SlashTards that frequent Silver & Gold games on XBL.  They also tend to hang around people using precision weapons which is one of the few things in life that ****** me off.  In fact, just yesterday I was using Turian Soldier with Argus X and this jackhole kept standing behind or near me spamming BSlash.  I even asked him to stop and explained how to use PD for a much better effect, but he then started following me around spamming BSlash right on top of me.  Then when a Phantom took him down, I popped her top with the Argus, started to revive him and then ran away, letting him bleed out.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:46

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Oh... oh yes, I want this... I have 0 points in ES...

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:49

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Air Quotes wrote...

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I would only be ok with it if the shadow version of PD would not use up shields, because if it did, it would be useless. I do like the idea of getting rid of slash, on both characters really, but the shadow version of PD would need a great AOE stagger effect. When I use slash on shadow I use it if I run into a group of enemies and don't want to rush in and get myself killed.

The current PD has no cooldown, give the shadow version a cooldown and not use up shields then it sounds great to me.


Or it could do MASSIVE damage in a couple of bursts, but would require you to lose shields and risk. 


SS is already risky enough, half the time you are getting hit before you strike yourself, and if the enemy has any backup you run the risk of getting downed by them even if the target doesn't notice you.  Honestly I just want both slash skills out of the game, they are just annoying.  But, the replacement would have to be a crowd control skill.  Besides, PD uses up shields(actually barrier) which comes from the characters own biotic ablities.  If a tech/combat character has a version it doesn't make sense to use up sheilds.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:53

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next thing I know I'm headbutting more shadows than usual.

I like this.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:53

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I would trade electric slash in a heart beat for a palm blaster.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:55

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ClockworkSpectre wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

ClockworkSpectre wrote...

I would only be ok with it if the shadow version of PD would not use up shields, because if it did, it would be useless. I do like the idea of getting rid of slash, on both characters really, but the shadow version of PD would need a great AOE stagger effect. When I use slash on shadow I use it if I run into a group of enemies and don't want to rush in and get myself killed.

The current PD has no cooldown, give the shadow version a cooldown and not use up shields then it sounds great to me.


Or it could do MASSIVE damage in a couple of bursts, but would require you to lose shields and risk. 


SS is already risky enough, half the time you are getting hit before you strike yourself, and if the enemy has any backup you run the risk of getting downed by them even if the target doesn't notice you.  Honestly I just want both slash skills out of the game, they are just annoying.  But, the replacement would have to be a crowd control skill.  Besides, PD uses up shields(actually barrier) which comes from the characters own biotic ablities.  If a tech/combat character has a version it doesn't make sense to use up sheilds.


Why not? You direct your suits power to the PD. 

Another thing that Shadow's PD could help her with SS. PD to stagger--->now the enemy can't react fast enough --> SS

It could also help you escape after using SS by staggering. 

I dunno, it's a balance thing. I just want a PD! And get rid of that godawful ES. 

Modifié par Air Quotes, 27 septembre 2012 - 06:56 .

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:57

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Wouldn't that essentially force one playstyle? Without shield drain, a Shadow becomes useless. Not to mention, if Phase Disruptor is chosen, then Shadow Strike must also be chosen. It really cripples the options available with regards to build styles. At least with the Slayer, I can, and do, spec out of Biotic Slash to go full Charge and Phase Disruptor. With the Shadow, it would either be only Shadow Strike or full Shadow Strike/Phase Disruptor.

Overall, a terrible idea.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:58

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I would say that Shadow Strike isn't all that risky, but I SS'd into a sync kill on Wave 9 yesterday, so what do I know.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 06:59

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prog_bassist wrote...

Wouldn't that essentially force one playstyle? Without shield drain, a Shadow becomes useless. Not to mention, if Phase Disruptor is chosen, then Shadow Strike must also be chosen. It really cripples the options available with regards to build styles. At least with the Slayer, I can, and do, spec out of Biotic Slash to go full Charge and Phase Disruptor. With the Shadow, it would either be only Shadow Strike or full Shadow Strike/Phase Disruptor.

Overall, a terrible idea.


How it is better now? Either SS or stand behind cover and spam ES. That's it. 

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:01

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Are you high I love electric slash

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:02

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prog_bassist wrote...

Wouldn't that essentially force one playstyle? Without shield drain, a Shadow becomes useless. Not to mention, if Phase Disruptor is chosen, then Shadow Strike must also be chosen. It really cripples the options available with regards to build styles. At least with the Slayer, I can, and do, spec out of Biotic Slash to go full Charge and Phase Disruptor. With the Shadow, it would either be only Shadow Strike or full Shadow Strike/Phase Disruptor.

Overall, a terrible idea.



I don't see why it would force a particular play style... I have 0 points in ES... there's no reason I couldn't have 0 points in PD if I didn't like the way it worked.  Some people might forego sword mastery... or only put in 5 pts... You could choose damage instead of drain and slap on some gear to make up for the sheild drain...

anyway, it would be better than the current "spam ES everywhere" playstyle.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:03

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I like the idea !

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:04

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FreaperFTW wrote...

Glorious ass model... and err.. personality


yes she does lol Image IPB

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:05

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well its never going to happen so who cares

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:06

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 In the history of ME3 multiplayer, how many times has bioware changed the power loadout of ANY character?

/thread

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:08

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jpraelster93 wrote...

well its never going to happen so who cares


Who knows? If we ask them nicely enough they may consider it :) 

Does anyone know who from Bioware could take a look at this thread? Maybe Derek Holan? 

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:09

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Lime The Dragon wrote...

 In the history of ME3 multiplayer, how many times has bioware changed the power loadout of ANY character?

/thread


Yeah I know. Still, many requests did not exactly made sense. LIke replacing Paladin's Incinerate with Reave. 

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:13

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Phase Disruptor is a biotic power, it eats barriers. Makes no sense for the Shadow to have it and Electric Slash actually synergizes well with the Shadows moveset imo. Cloak (duration+bonus power), SS, get to a safe distance, ES to end your cloak.

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:13

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jrm_ayun wrote...
But she's pretty :wub:


I concur! Where's this pic from?

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:14

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80% bonus on PD?

LOL

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Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 07:16

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DeathIsHere wrote...

Phase Disruptor is a biotic power, it eats barriers. Makes no sense for the Shadow to have it and Electric Slash actually synergizes well with the Shadows moveset imo. Cloak (duration+bonus power), SS, get to a safe distance, ES to end your cloak.


PD is not a Biotic power. It's a Combat power. It doesn't even detonate BE's. 

And Shadows Phase Disruptor done well could synergize just as well or even better than ES. Actually it would be much better. 
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