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[CNevarezN]

CNevarezN wrote...

Due to the nature of my Awesomeness, I play whatever the PUGs throw at me.

[DullahansXMark]

polymphus wrote...

OP doesn't do much to support his argument but he's right: glacier's panic room is waaaaay easier to turtle than white's. It takes a different sort of team (you need at least 1 AJA with warp bubble and preferably an AA specced for combos) but apart from banshees, you're never under threat.

Glacier is a much smaller map than white, which means during objective waves and extraction, it's easier to get back-and-forth from where you are to where you need to be.

Wasn't really an argument, hence the lack of defense I assumed most people on this forum knew about this, so I figured, why bother explaining what people already know?

[CNevarezN]

DullahansXMark wrote...

polymphus wrote...

OP doesn't do much to support his argument but he's right: glacier's panic room is waaaaay easier to turtle than white's. It takes a different sort of team (you need at least 1 AJA with warp bubble and preferably an AA specced for combos) but apart from banshees, you're never under threat.

Glacier is a much smaller map than white, which means during objective waves and extraction, it's easier to get back-and-forth from where you are to where you need to be.

Wasn't really an argument, hence the lack of defense I assumed most people on this forum knew about this, so I figured, why bother explaining what people already know?

Always has to be THAT guy in these Forums bro. He's one of em.

[DullahansXMark]

CNevarezN wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

polymphus wrote...

OP doesn't do much to support his argument but he's right: glacier's panic room is waaaaay easier to turtle than white's. It takes a different sort of team (you need at least 1 AJA with warp bubble and preferably an AA specced for combos) but apart from banshees, you're never under threat.

Glacier is a much smaller map than white, which means during objective waves and extraction, it's easier to get back-and-forth from where you are to where you need to be.

Wasn't really an argument, hence the lack of defense I assumed most people on this forum knew about this, so I figured, why bother explaining what people already know?

Always has to be THAT guy in these Forums bro. He's one of em.

lol, fair enough.

[Googleness]

rymoulton wrote...

For anybody interested here is the video:

 OMFG
Silver games take me more time then u did that plat... just wow.... amazing.

[cgj]

Glacier ain't faster at all in pugs, that's why fbw is still there cause in pug you take much less risk with fbw and get the same time

i tried to play a lot of cerberus glacier gold run to try to have fast gold runs, but pugs are so bad that you'd probably be just as fast solo

Modifié par cgj, 27 septembre 2012 - 10:59 .

[Kenadian]

Dagger is generally the easiest map for Platinum, I find.

[TheExile1]

cgj wrote...

Glacier ain't faster at all in pugs, that's why fbw is still there cause in pug you take much less risk with fbw and get the same time

i tried to play a lot of cerberus glacier gold run to try to have fast gold runs, but pugs are so bad that you'd probably be just as fast solo

yeah really. one time I tried to solo glacier with my kroguard, i had left on public though and one person did happen to join. he didn't do much and I had to revive him a few times. Still managed about 22 minutes though, which faster than most matches that i have with other people. 

[CapitateGoose]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Glacier/Cerberus/Platinum is SO much superior, SO much more fun, SO much easier and SO much faster than that damned FBWGP, and yet everyone insists on doing it that way. 

Agree.
On the other hand, when going PUG farming, time to search for a lobby is wasted time ....
- First I try Glacier - no connection
- I try White - instant connect - possibly ingame, saves me another few minutes.
- also trying U/U lands you on White mostly

I am not complaining, I will just go with it and see how it goes.

PS. Wow - put farming in the title and have 6 pages of comments in 2 hours.

[Mindlog]

In my experience PUG speed has been far more dependent on teammates. Glacier is schizophrenic in that it's frequently vacillating between speed-runs (awesome) and farm-runs (meh.) I've cleared FBW/G/P in 17 minutes with pubs and it was a total camp.

9/10 You can guess clear times by looking at lobby DPS. Lobby DPS determines what style/map I play on Platinum.

[Parallax Demon]

Main problem with Pugs is that nobody knows what the other three players want to do. When I join a Gold game on Glacier against Cerberus, I see one or two people running in the panic room, one or two running towards the yellow line and, most often someone camping on the balcony.
When I play on White against Geth, everybody goes down to the room of shame, except mayby one player who wants to camp outdoors at the back of the map.

Really don't know how to speedrun Glacier; all I know is stay behind the yellow line and run downstairs at the start of the wave and throw all your grenades (playing with a QMI).

[SavagelyEpic]

DullahansXMark wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

sandboxgod wrote...

PUGs on Glacier/P is highly risky. Sometimes people want to just run off and fight alone. One day the host switched us to Glacier/P w/o me realizing it. I was on my Shadow meleeing dudes straight up. Didnt realize it was plat til much later.

Anyway, for some reason FBWGP seems much easier. Everyone knows what to do. And you can do it in like 25 mins even if some folks are getting sort of carried (or rather, they are freshly promoted).

How long does it take to farm Glacier/P? Not that I'm interested. I am burned out on farming. I usually stick to U/U/G so I can become good one day yo

I usually stick to UUG myself, but for all the work I end up putting into carrying those, it just isn't worth the reward (I'm running out of Gels by now). At least in Glacier farming, people usually know what to do, and we get it done in 20-25 minutes, without even knowing each other.

LOL, yeah right

Umm... okay, then. Considering the fact that I have nothing to prove to someone whose handle doesn't even have any vowels, I find the whole process of responding to this post irrelevant. Yet I did it anyway.

Don't worry, I always read his name as commander weiner.

Heh. Weiner.


...What am I doing with my life?

[CitizenThom]

FWIW...FBWP has one thing over FBGP... You have to have a specific set of characters for Glacier to make it work really well. You still need to have some class synergy on FBW, but not all tech or all biotic (I always do the all biotic team) like FBG.

That said, in my opinion, the time is better spent on FBG. (Although I still want to try the All Demolisher strategy on FBW).

[bondiboy]

Prefer Hydra for Platinum. Large map, plenty of cover and good view of surroundings so no need to camp but always have the option of falling back to the room with the blue ball if gets hectic

Modifié par stricko, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:28 .

[CitizenThom]

Mindlog wrote...

In my experience PUG speed has been far more dependent on teammates. Glacier is schizophrenic in that it's frequently vacillating between speed-runs (awesome) and farm-runs (meh.) I've cleared FBW/G/P in 17 minutes with pubs and it was a total camp.

9/10 You can guess clear times by looking at lobby DPS. Lobby DPS determines what style/map I play on Platinum.

When I do Glacier Platinum Camping, we can usually finish in 21-23 minutes by dying after the completion of he Wave 10 objective.

I'm not certian, but I am pretty sure that speed runs on Glacier Gold probably save you a couple minutes or more.

Modifié par CitizenThom, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:30 .

[polymphus]

CNevarezN wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

polymphus wrote...

OP doesn't do much to support his argument but he's right: glacier's panic room is waaaaay easier to turtle than white's. It takes a different sort of team (you need at least 1 AJA with warp bubble and preferably an AA specced for combos) but apart from banshees, you're never under threat.

Glacier is a much smaller map than white, which means during objective waves and extraction, it's easier to get back-and-forth from where you are to where you need to be.

Wasn't really an argument, hence the lack of defense I assumed most people on this forum knew about this, so I figured, why bother explaining what people already know?

Always has to be THAT guy in these Forums bro. He's one of em.

What's that supposed to mean?

And why bother posting if, by your own admission, there's no point in posting?

[CitizenThom]

stricko wrote...

Prefer Hydra for Platinum. Large map, plenty of cover and good view of surroundings so no need to camp but always have the option of falling back to the room with the blue ball if gets hectic

I did that once in a PUG, and it did work pretty well, not as cramped as Glacier.

[The Renegade Fem-Shep]

CNevarezN wrote...

Due to the nature of my Awesomeness, I play whatever the PUGs throw at me.

****ing eh 

[dream3873]

Yes all the folks running FBWGX have no idea what they are missing out on. Run and gun on Glacier is a hell of a lot easier. The Key is to stay together as a group and always leave a person as rear scout to control spawns.

[Koenig888]

FBWGP is easier with PUGs. You are almost guaranteed to go as far as wave 6. It is only from wave 7 onwards when Banshees appear that things start to get interesting.

[mystupidmouth]

This thread has been fascinating, Last night I tried to control spawns more tactically and it was pretty cool to see the results. I was playing silver as I was trying to level up a Krogan Sentinel, the main frustrating thing, was the other players running willy nilly around the level between waves. I'd love to see a faq or some maps with the spawn points for the less popular maps, to help with some U/U/G games I usually play at. Way more fun than standing behind a counter for 35 minutes.

[Scam_poo]

OP is right. I played against Cerberus on Glacier with a **** team, we made it in 21 minutes without using any medigel.
Played a White Geth game the other day, took us way longer, and we were wiped.

inb4farmingelitists

[Asebstos]

OP is right and it has baffled me as well. Glacier requires slightly more coordination, so it isn't quite as mindless as FBW. It can be done with PUGs and it is faster, but I guess people like the comfort of those desks.

Modifié par Asebstos, 28 septembre 2012 - 10:40 .