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Hmm I wonder if in dragon age 3, would my noble son be mentioned about and that is all I need from me to have some connection to him and all the other million things he did lol. Sadly he will probably be to young to see!!! But anyway can't wait ;D.

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The OGB or the one a male Dwarf Noble could have with the noble hunter during the origin portion?

I think that if you are male and sleep with one or both of the noble hunters, one of them winds up pregnant.

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Do you mean The Dwarf Nobal from DAO?

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berelinde wrote...

The OGB or the one a male Dwarf Noble could have with the noble hunter during the origin portion?

I think that if you are male and sleep with one or both of the noble hunters, one of them winds up pregnant.


Well I don't see how OGB would become a noble lol.

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Yes, lol my noble son. I don't think I heard anything about him i.n dragon age 2 so I think the game should at least recognize something like that! I mean what other origin have an son without morrigan.

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While I agree it would be neat to hear about your son he will only be like what 12to 14 at the most. And without your character there they will never have that much clout with Harromont or Bhalin. Sorry about the spelling for those names lol.

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I would also like to know what happened to little Duncan?

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JasonPogo wrote... Com

While I agree it would be neat to hear about your son he will only be like what 12to 14 at the most. And without your character there they will never have that much clout with Harromont or Bhalin. Sorry about the spelling for those names lol.



Lol it's cool, maybe someone who known about the warden would say something about, I mean word gets around fast. It could be dwarfs gossip about their latest paragon.

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Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.

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I just remembered
Paragons get to make a new noble house.
So my son is likely the head of this new house.

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MichaelStuart wrote...

I just remembered
Paragons get to make a new noble house.
So my son is likely the head of this new house.


Then my warden will have been having noble (if they're ladies) half dwarf-half elf children with zevran

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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

berelinde wrote...

The OGB or the one a male Dwarf Noble could have with the noble hunter during the origin portion?

I think that if you are male and sleep with one or both of the noble hunters, one of them winds up pregnant.


Well I don't see how OGB would become a noble lol.

OGB by a human noble father would technically be a Cousland and the heir to Highever, assuming that Fergus doesn't get busy first. (shrugs) It worked for Alistair.

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Darn i forgot about that the Warden Dwarf Noble can have two sons,I hope bioware can maybe say what happen to my Warden's son both of them.

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Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.

A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.

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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

berelinde wrote...

The OGB or the one a male Dwarf Noble could have with the noble hunter during the origin portion?

I think that if you are male and sleep with one or both of the noble hunters, one of them winds up pregnant.


Well I don't see how OGB would become a noble lol.


Morrigan gives birth to a regular human boy if you sleep with her but don't do the ritual. Of course she takes him with her same as the OGB so it's still hard to make him a noble.

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franciscoamell wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.

A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.


Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.

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Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.

A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.


Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.

No, Bhelen doesn't marry Rica. He keeps her as a concubine, and she says that his wife will be queen, not her.

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franciscoamell wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.

A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.


Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.

No, Bhelen doesn't marry Rica. He keeps her as a concubine, and she says that his wife will be queen, not her.


That's not what the city crier says.He talks about bhelens impending marriage to a casteless.

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Emzamination wrote...

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Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.

A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.


Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.

No, Bhelen doesn't marry Rica. He keeps her as a concubine, and she says that his wife will be queen, not her.


That's not what the city crier says.He talks about bhelens impending marriage to a casteless.

I think Rica is more reliable.

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franciscoamell wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.

A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.


Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.

No, Bhelen doesn't marry Rica. He keeps her as a concubine, and she says that his wife will be queen, not her.


That's not what the city crier says.He talks about bhelens impending marriage to a casteless.

I think Rica is more reliable.


No

Modifié par Emzamination, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:22 .


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It's Harrowmont's crier. He's trying to defame Bhelen. I will admit I fell for his lies too until I played the dwarven castless.

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Emzamination wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

franciscoamell wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

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Emzamination wrote...

Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.

A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.


Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.

No, Bhelen doesn't marry Rica. He keeps her as a concubine, and she says that his wife will be queen, not her.


That's not what the city crier says.He talks about bhelens impending marriage to a casteless.

I think Rica is more reliable.


No

That didn't make sense. I never doubted that a town crier in Orzammar said this, what I did mean was that Rica tells a different story, and the only way she was wrong was if she was lying, and I don't think she'd do that to her beloved sibling.

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franciscoamell wrote...


That didn't make sense. I never doubted that a town crier in Orzammar said this, what I did mean was that Rica tells a different story, and the only way she was wrong was if she was lying, and I don't think she'd do that to her beloved sibling.


That video was the end of the Dwarf commoner origin, not orzammar.Notice the Dwarf dialogue option "I'm sorry I killed your husband" If chosen rica will respond that she is happy the dwarf commoner did because she didn't want a husband that would continuously boss her around.You stand corrected sir. =]

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berelinde wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

berelinde wrote...

The OGB or the one a male Dwarf Noble could have with the noble hunter during the origin portion?

I think that if you are male and sleep with one or both of the noble hunters, one of them winds up pregnant.


Well I don't see how OGB would become a noble lol.

OGB by a human noble father would technically be a Cousland and the heir to Highever, assuming that Fergus doesn't get busy first. (shrugs) It worked for Alistair.


Assuming feudal human society functions in a similar way in Thedas it did in medieval Europe...


Bastards can't inherit rank, title and land unless officially recognized as heirs by their fathers. OGB would be seen as nothing more than a bastard and a commoner, neither of which has much social status, unless he was publically declared to be true the son and heir of the Warden, by the Warden. A lack of legitimacy would also carry a stigma attached to it that would stand in the way of social climbing. As an example of the low social status attached to illegitimacy, in addition to being called bastards illegitimate sons were often called wh0resons.

Also, as you noted any of Fergus' legitimate children would be higher up in the line of succession.

Lack of legitimacy and Fergus having legitimate children would be obstacles in the way of OGB rising to become Teyrn. Also I imagine being partially Chasind and the son of a Witch of the Wilds wouldn't do him any favors in rallying support for a claim.

The OGB potentially becomes a bigger problem if fathered by Alistair however. Royal bastards can be more troublesome, as we saw with Alistair. Image IPB

Modifié par Han Shot First, 28 septembre 2012 - 02:33 .