my warden noble son
#1
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 10:07
#2
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 10:09
I think that if you are male and sleep with one or both of the noble hunters, one of them winds up pregnant.
#3
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 10:10
#4
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 10:11
berelinde wrote...
The OGB or the one a male Dwarf Noble could have with the noble hunter during the origin portion?
I think that if you are male and sleep with one or both of the noble hunters, one of them winds up pregnant.
Well I don't see how OGB would become a noble lol.
#5
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 10:16
#6
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 10:19
#7
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 10:21
#8
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 10:25
JasonPogo wrote... Com
While I agree it would be neat to hear about your son he will only be like what 12to 14 at the most. And without your character there they will never have that much clout with Harromont or Bhalin. Sorry about the spelling for those names lol.
Lol it's cool, maybe someone who known about the warden would say something about, I mean word gets around fast. It could be dwarfs gossip about their latest paragon.
#9
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 10:31
#10
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 10:34
Paragons get to make a new noble house.
So my son is likely the head of this new house.
#11
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 10:58
MichaelStuart wrote...
I just remembered
Paragons get to make a new noble house.
So my son is likely the head of this new house.
Then my warden will have been having noble (if they're ladies) half dwarf-half elf children with zevran
#12
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 11:00
OGB by a human noble father would technically be a Cousland and the heir to Highever, assuming that Fergus doesn't get busy first. (shrugs) It worked for Alistair.DarkKnightHolmes wrote...
berelinde wrote...
The OGB or the one a male Dwarf Noble could have with the noble hunter during the origin portion?
I think that if you are male and sleep with one or both of the noble hunters, one of them winds up pregnant.
Well I don't see how OGB would become a noble lol.
#13
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 11:31
#14
Guest_franciscoamell_*
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 11:34
Guest_franciscoamell_*
A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.Emzamination wrote...
Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.
#15
Posté 27 septembre 2012 - 11:42
DarkKnightHolmes wrote...
berelinde wrote...
The OGB or the one a male Dwarf Noble could have with the noble hunter during the origin portion?
I think that if you are male and sleep with one or both of the noble hunters, one of them winds up pregnant.
Well I don't see how OGB would become a noble lol.
Morrigan gives birth to a regular human boy if you sleep with her but don't do the ritual. Of course she takes him with her same as the OGB so it's still hard to make him a noble.
#16
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 12:10
franciscoamell wrote...
A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.Emzamination wrote...
Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.
Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.
#17
Guest_franciscoamell_*
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 12:12
Guest_franciscoamell_*
No, Bhelen doesn't marry Rica. He keeps her as a concubine, and she says that his wife will be queen, not her.Emzamination wrote...
franciscoamell wrote...
A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.Emzamination wrote...
Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.
Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.
#18
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 12:16
franciscoamell wrote...
No, Bhelen doesn't marry Rica. He keeps her as a concubine, and she says that his wife will be queen, not her.Emzamination wrote...
franciscoamell wrote...
A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.Emzamination wrote...
Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.
Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.
That's not what the city crier says.He talks about bhelens impending marriage to a casteless.
#19
Guest_franciscoamell_*
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 12:17
Guest_franciscoamell_*
I think Rica is more reliable.Emzamination wrote...
franciscoamell wrote...
No, Bhelen doesn't marry Rica. He keeps her as a concubine, and she says that his wife will be queen, not her.Emzamination wrote...
franciscoamell wrote...
A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.Emzamination wrote...
Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.
Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.
That's not what the city crier says.He talks about bhelens impending marriage to a casteless.
#20
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 12:21
franciscoamell wrote...
I think Rica is more reliable.Emzamination wrote...
franciscoamell wrote...
No, Bhelen doesn't marry Rica. He keeps her as a concubine, and she says that his wife will be queen, not her.Emzamination wrote...
franciscoamell wrote...
A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.Emzamination wrote...
Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.
Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.
That's not what the city crier says.He talks about bhelens impending marriage to a casteless.
No
Modifié par Emzamination, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:22 .
#21
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 12:22
#22
Guest_franciscoamell_*
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 12:37
Guest_franciscoamell_*
That didn't make sense. I never doubted that a town crier in Orzammar said this, what I did mean was that Rica tells a different story, and the only way she was wrong was if she was lying, and I don't think she'd do that to her beloved sibling.Emzamination wrote...
franciscoamell wrote...
I think Rica is more reliable.Emzamination wrote...
franciscoamell wrote...
No, Bhelen doesn't marry Rica. He keeps her as a concubine, and she says that his wife will be queen, not her.Emzamination wrote...
franciscoamell wrote...
A bastard can become the king of Ferelden, and Rica's son with Bhelen of the other dwarf origin, has a claim to Orzammar's throne as well. I don't think bastards are that big of a deal in Thedas.Emzamination wrote...
Doubtful you'll ever hear anything about him.iirc the boy was the son of the dwarf noble and a noble hunter, yes? He'll probably be regarded as just another generic sword arm in aeducan, such is the way of the noble houses and its bastard children.
Alistair is a victim of luck & circumstance and rica's child isn't a bastard as bhelen is marrying his mother, besides that the kid is one of many of bhelen's spawn in line for the throne.Bastard children are generally looked down upon in ferelden.In origins, half the bannorns bastards have been pawned off as city guardsmen.
That's not what the city crier says.He talks about bhelens impending marriage to a casteless.
No
#23
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 12:41
franciscoamell wrote...
That didn't make sense. I never doubted that a town crier in Orzammar said this, what I did mean was that Rica tells a different story, and the only way she was wrong was if she was lying, and I don't think she'd do that to her beloved sibling.
That video was the end of the Dwarf commoner origin, not orzammar.Notice the Dwarf dialogue option "I'm sorry I killed your husband" If chosen rica will respond that she is happy the dwarf commoner did because she didn't want a husband that would continuously boss her around.You stand corrected sir.
Modifié par Emzamination, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:46 .
#24
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 02:08
berelinde wrote...
OGB by a human noble father would technically be a Cousland and the heir to Highever, assuming that Fergus doesn't get busy first. (shrugs) It worked for Alistair.DarkKnightHolmes wrote...
berelinde wrote...
The OGB or the one a male Dwarf Noble could have with the noble hunter during the origin portion?
I think that if you are male and sleep with one or both of the noble hunters, one of them winds up pregnant.
Well I don't see how OGB would become a noble lol.
Assuming feudal human society functions in a similar way in Thedas it did in medieval Europe...
Bastards can't inherit rank, title and land unless officially recognized as heirs by their fathers. OGB would be seen as nothing more than a bastard and a commoner, neither of which has much social status, unless he was publically declared to be true the son and heir of the Warden, by the Warden. A lack of legitimacy would also carry a stigma attached to it that would stand in the way of social climbing. As an example of the low social status attached to illegitimacy, in addition to being called bastards illegitimate sons were often called wh0resons.
Also, as you noted any of Fergus' legitimate children would be higher up in the line of succession.
Lack of legitimacy and Fergus having legitimate children would be obstacles in the way of OGB rising to become Teyrn. Also I imagine being partially Chasind and the son of a Witch of the Wilds wouldn't do him any favors in rallying support for a claim.
The OGB potentially becomes a bigger problem if fathered by Alistair however. Royal bastards can be more troublesome, as we saw with Alistair.
Modifié par Han Shot First, 28 septembre 2012 - 02:33 .





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