Yes. Most people still hate Diana Allers.
Do people still hate it?
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#227
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 09:19
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EC Destroy with High EMS is the ONLY ending that I can tolerate -- make of that what you will.
#228
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 09:30
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The EC and Leviathan dlc made it a little "bearable".
Bioware screwed up the ending,they know it,we know it,they know that we know that they screwed up the ending.They gave us the dlc's as a result of the feedback.
Might as well get over it because this is all we're going to get i believe.
Overall, the series is still great.
Bioware screwed up the ending,they know it,we know it,they know that we know that they screwed up the ending.They gave us the dlc's as a result of the feedback.
Might as well get over it because this is all we're going to get i believe.
Overall, the series is still great.
#229
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 11:08
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Actually, I rather liked the ending, though I questioned it at first. After I had thought about it for a while, the ending grew on me because it lead to speculation.
The main weakness wasn't whether or not it had fractured or had broken with existing lore, but of too little information regarding closure issues. Closure was pretty well addressed in the EC DLC, IMHO, and even contains some clarification in Leviathan as well.
From Ashes (for those who have it) is quite revealing as well, at least in regards to the Protheans. Liara comes to a realization that she had been romanticizing them, believing them to be something they were not as a race.
IMHO, this is the same thing we may do as fans of the games in that what we believe we may know, is merely our own perceptions of what we think we know based on our own perspectives of what we have seen and read.
My own impression on reapers, and even the Star Child, stems from Saren at Virmier in ME 1: in that they (reapers) think like machines. This theme is repeated several times in conversations with reapers throughout the series. IMHO, they are proverbially locked in a closed loop of repetition.
The way I see it, something likely happened to the original programming of the Citadel AI at some point that altered the original intent of the programming to preserve each organic species so that the revised logic indicated that the best way to do that is through harvesting each species at its apex of development so as not to lose important data.
Until some variable is introduced to disrupt that logic occurs, 'the cycle must continue'. Earth is the youngest of the space faring species of the Galaxy. Unlike others, humans are far more diverse as a species in several ways.
Humans, represented by Shepard, provide the needed disruption to the cycle to break the continuous loop the reapers are locked into and adds a new variable to the logic. However, even this new variable is limited, and as a result, so are the final choices that are made available.
We were, in fact, told by the Developers that the ending would have a twist, but perhaps a little too twisted for some folks, it would seem. But, at least in my point of view, while I may have questioned the ending, I certainly didn't hate it, and I really enjoy the game enough to play multiple times and just finishing two more new characters in ME 1 and started them in ME 2 in preparation for ME 3.
The main weakness wasn't whether or not it had fractured or had broken with existing lore, but of too little information regarding closure issues. Closure was pretty well addressed in the EC DLC, IMHO, and even contains some clarification in Leviathan as well.
From Ashes (for those who have it) is quite revealing as well, at least in regards to the Protheans. Liara comes to a realization that she had been romanticizing them, believing them to be something they were not as a race.
IMHO, this is the same thing we may do as fans of the games in that what we believe we may know, is merely our own perceptions of what we think we know based on our own perspectives of what we have seen and read.
My own impression on reapers, and even the Star Child, stems from Saren at Virmier in ME 1: in that they (reapers) think like machines. This theme is repeated several times in conversations with reapers throughout the series. IMHO, they are proverbially locked in a closed loop of repetition.
The way I see it, something likely happened to the original programming of the Citadel AI at some point that altered the original intent of the programming to preserve each organic species so that the revised logic indicated that the best way to do that is through harvesting each species at its apex of development so as not to lose important data.
Until some variable is introduced to disrupt that logic occurs, 'the cycle must continue'. Earth is the youngest of the space faring species of the Galaxy. Unlike others, humans are far more diverse as a species in several ways.
Humans, represented by Shepard, provide the needed disruption to the cycle to break the continuous loop the reapers are locked into and adds a new variable to the logic. However, even this new variable is limited, and as a result, so are the final choices that are made available.
We were, in fact, told by the Developers that the ending would have a twist, but perhaps a little too twisted for some folks, it would seem. But, at least in my point of view, while I may have questioned the ending, I certainly didn't hate it, and I really enjoy the game enough to play multiple times and just finishing two more new characters in ME 1 and started them in ME 2 in preparation for ME 3.
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#230
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 11:12
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I do, but only because of the fact that a new, story critical character was introduced in the last ten minutes, and the fact that it's actually ironic how much of a lie the pre-release statements were.
#231
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 11:33
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EC and Levi fixed a lot and broke several more things each:Selene Moonsong wrote...
...too little information regarding closure issues...
...Closure was pretty well addressed in the EC DLC...
...clarification in Leviathan as well...
Why did Shep's suit radio work in an area where the missiles couldn't fly straight or be remote (radio) guided?
Why did Ghostie choose killing people first before the Citadel and relays even existed?
That was the coolest thing.Selene Moonsong wrote...
From Ashes...
...Liara comes to a realization that she had been romanticized them...
My opinion is that Shep should have razzed Liara A BUNCH on thinking they were like Asari.
When Levi is added, that point now appears to be 10 minutes after Ghostie was activated.Selene Moonsong wrote...
The way I see it, something likely happened to the original programming of the Citadel AI at some point...
A twist would have been Dr.Verner was THE KEY TO THE WHOLE DAMNED WAR.Selene Moonsong wrote...
...perhaps a little too twisted for some folks...
They gave Conrad a Ph.D in Advance Theoretical Physics and then just used him as an easter egg basket.
Wasn't twisted enough. It was just twirled a little.
#232
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 11:34
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I still hate the endings as much as I hate Bioware's attempts at validating them. The endings are what they are and all that the DLC does is add more of the same. I can't see them for anything else than a completely contradiction to everything that the series established.
#233
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 11:38
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Unless the ending has changed again after the EC, then yes. I still hate it.
It's not like I'm suddenly going to start like the ending.
It's not like I'm suddenly going to start like the ending.
#234
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 11:40
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LucasShark wrote...
Ghost1017 wrote...
Lemons are better.Zardoc wrote...
Ghost1017 wrote...
I hate the grapefruit.
Incendiary lemons?
Special Explosive Lemons.
#235
Posté 28 septembre 2012 - 11:42
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kyban wrote...
LucasShark wrote...
Ghost1017 wrote...
Lemons are better.Zardoc wrote...
Ghost1017 wrote...
I hate the grapefruit.
Incendiary lemons?
Special Explosive Lemons.
OK I'll say it:
THAT BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN!!!
Modifié par m2iCodeJockey, 28 septembre 2012 - 11:45 .
#236
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 12:03
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It didn't have a twist, it was just damned stupid and stuck two fingers up at everything I'd come to love in the ME universe. Having a twist is not the same as being random.Selene Moonsong wrote...
We were, in fact, told by the Developers that the ending would have a twist, but perhaps a little too twisted for some folks, it would seem. But, at least in my point of view, while I may have questioned the ending, I certainly didn't hate it, and I really enjoy the game enough to play multiple times and just finishing two more new characters in ME 1 and started them in ME 2 in preparation for ME 3.
#237
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 12:12
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star child and the dreams with the child are what is wrong with the end it is weird and does not fit the game at all
the ending before ec did and always will deserve the negative feedback ec did not really fix it but nothing could with an ending that bad at least they tried to and free which helped take some of my anger but I hate that ending and for good reason
the ending before ec did and always will deserve the negative feedback ec did not really fix it but nothing could with an ending that bad at least they tried to and free which helped take some of my anger but I hate that ending and for good reason
#238
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 12:13
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I don't mind the concept of the ending, but I still think it was poorly told, EC and all, though the subsequent DLC turned it from "WUT" to "I guess that makes a bit of sense? Maybe?"
#239
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:00
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Mass Effect 3 could be a great game. Too bad the series ended with ME2.
It's better to pretend that this *censored* never actually produced, than accept that nonsensical non-rpg space magic shooter.
So no, no hate, just despise and disgust.
Bioware is dead, and I think it's for the best.
It's better to pretend that this *censored* never actually produced, than accept that nonsensical non-rpg space magic shooter.
So no, no hate, just despise and disgust.
Bioware is dead, and I think it's for the best.
#240
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:07
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I hope that we never get an ending this bad in a game ever again I hope they show this and use it as a guide of all the things not to do in an ending then some good might come from this awful ending
#241
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:08
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I certainly don't. Guess whyI hope that we never get an ending this bad in a game ever again I hope they show this and use it as a guide of all the things not to do in an ending then some good might come from this awful ending
#242
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:13
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I don't think anyone that hates the ending is still here 6 months later.
If they are they really need to see a doctor or something. That level of obsession isn't healthy.
If they are they really need to see a doctor or something. That level of obsession isn't healthy.
#243
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:14
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Our_Last_Scene wrote...
I don't think anyone that hates the ending is still here 6 months later.
If they are they really need to see a doctor or something. That level of obsession isn't healthy.
why would we not be here?
#244
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:16
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Even after the EC I'm still unable to bring myself to play any of the ME SP games. I wish I could enjoy them, but knowing about the ending saps my will to play. The EC didn't address my problems with the endings, although it did for some lucky people.
I'm not sure if that counts as hate, but it's certainly not love.
I'm not sure if that counts as hate, but it's certainly not love.
#245
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:19
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AresKeith wrote...
Our_Last_Scene wrote...
I don't think anyone that hates the ending is still here 6 months later.
If they are they really need to see a doctor or something. That level of obsession isn't healthy.
why would we not be here?
Because it's another example of assumed "hate the ending = hate the franchise".
#246
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:22
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AresKeith wrote...
Our_Last_Scene wrote...
I don't think anyone that hates the ending is still here 6 months later.
If they are they really need to see a doctor or something. That level of obsession isn't healthy.
why would we not be here?
I guess I should've been more specific, those that think the ending ruined the entire series or the whole of ME3.
Those that hate just the endings have probably moved on by now and started talking about different things.
#247
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:23
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Our_Last_Scene wrote...
AresKeith wrote...
Our_Last_Scene wrote...
I don't think anyone that hates the ending is still here 6 months later.
If they are they really need to see a doctor or something. That level of obsession isn't healthy.
why would we not be here?
I guess I should've been more specific, those that think the ending ruined the entire series or the whole of ME3.
Those that hate just the endings have probably moved on by now and started talking about different things.
maybe because they dropped the franchise because of the ending, but we still like Mass Effect just not the ME3 ending or ME3 as a whole
#248
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:28
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AresKeith wrote...
Our_Last_Scene wrote...
I guess I should've been more specific, those that think the ending ruined the entire series or the whole of ME3.
Those that hate just the endings have probably moved on by now and started talking about different things.
maybe because they dropped the franchise because of the ending, but we still like Mass Effect just not the ME3 ending or ME3 as a whole
If you don't like ME3 you could always move to the ME1 or ME2 forums, or not come here, as 6 months of obsession really isn't healthy.
#249
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:28
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I strongly hate the endings and the game (yes they are categorized lol)
#250
Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 01:30
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Our_Last_Scene wrote...
AresKeith wrote...
Our_Last_Scene wrote...
I guess I should've been more specific, those that think the ending ruined the entire series or the whole of ME3.
Those that hate just the endings have probably moved on by now and started talking about different things.
maybe because they dropped the franchise because of the ending, but we still like Mass Effect just not the ME3 ending or ME3 as a whole
If you don't like ME3 you could always move to the ME1 or ME2 forums, or not come here, as 6 months of obsession really isn't healthy.
hmmm nope, we obviously staying here because we can
