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No, I don't hate the ending. Actually with the EC and Leviathan I started to like it a lot. So to me it's fixed.

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

But if they didn't do that... How could you get this achievement?


Ugh, damn me for being such an achievment-****.^_^

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

The way they word it is, "negativity.. we are trying to clean up the negativity on the forums."

lol you reap what you sow.


Ah, a BW promise. I think we can probably take that with a pinch of salt then......

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I don't hate it but neither do I like it. Then again, thats my opinion for whole of Mass Effect 3, so much failed potential...

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Hmmmmmmmmmm....... I honestly don't know if I still hate the ending even after EC, but that did clear up some things for me, honestly the Mass Effect 3 had **** ton of potential in it, if it was given bigger budget and time, then we could've seen maybe something more, but overall I love the franchise, unfortunately I won't be buying ME4.

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Epique Phael767 wrote...

 I could write a college thesis paper on  all of the flaws in this one game.,


Yes, I'd be surprised if there weren't actual college writing courses that use the game for examples of how not to write a story.

And the ending choices seem already like a college behavioral psych experiment.

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The ending has near ruined the IP for me I'm afraid.

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I like the endings after the EC came out. I loved the game until the endings before EC.

One thing I don't really understand is, why do people who hate the game hang out in this forum? I am not trying to judge you or anything, I just don't simply understand :/

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I think ME4 will be the ultimate decider of how history/gamers look back on ME3. What BW has done is much more deeper and powerful than other games. Assasins Creed 3 doesn't have to have Ezio in it because you don't have this intensity of characters like you do in ME3. In my opinion at least. Who is the closest thing in Ezio's life that you have in ME3? Leonardo Da Vinci in a couple of cut scenes?

Even if Shep is not in the next game I don't want my final characters last scene to be depressingly hanging my name on a death board.

So to answer your question, ME4 will answer your question. If they go down the path of IT or something that continues the story, I'll say the anger and frustration (and slight depression) from the ME3 ending would all have been worth it and will make the anticipation for 4 even greater.

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Syfoor wrote...
did the leviathan fix anything? i heard it had some serious plot additions. and what are the future plans? i mean, more multiplayer dlcs, some SP story or another ME all together? any accurate news?

If you are the sort of person that like logistics, time lines and purpose of presence, it made things worse.

- So far, the Levi hid in one planet or another's oceans without making a difference for 1 billion years.
- The sample group size that led to Ghostie killing people in cycles is now "1."
- The Citadel and relays now seem to never have had any other purpose than being a venus-civilization-trap.
- The people that created Ghostie contradicted themselves: It wiped out their population, forcing them into permanent hiding, it is NOT accomplishing the task they gave it but,
"Mistake? There was no mistake..."

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ReinRaus wrote...

I like the endings after the EC came out. I loved the game until the endings before EC.

One thing I don't really understand is, why do people who hate the game hang out in this forum? I am not trying to judge you or anything, I just don't simply understand :/


Maybe people are misusing the word hate. I hate red pepper so I refrain from eating it and dont discuss it :P I think with ME, they gave us 100+ hours of incredible story building and character building. On priority Earth you have such sad and awful goodbyes to everyone you met and love, you end up saying to yourself "no way wont I come out of this reunited - anything less is sadistic". And then you meet the star-brat and you left with 4 ****ty options and everything else is negated.

People love the game and they want to something better even if they feel angry. I personally do not hang out here to bash the game. I love the game - even the ****ty endings because its given me something to debate about and think about.

Also there are so many disagreements and conspiracy theories (IT the one I subscribe to) that it makes being in the forums fun. :lol:

Just get rid of space magic in ME4 please :wizard:

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I liked ME3 aside from the endings, EC fixed that IMO.

What's really funny is watching hardcore gamers go into ultra dramatic mode over it. You'd think Casey Hudson murdered their dog and then slept with their sisters or something.

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loungeshep wrote...

I liked ME3 aside from the endings, EC fixed that IMO.

What's really funny is watching hardcore gamers go into ultra dramatic mode over it. You'd think Casey Hudson murdered their dog and then slept with their sisters or something.


Agreed but I think games such as ME should be allowed to have the same emotional impact and importance as books and movies are allowed.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Epique Phael767 wrote...
I could write a college thesis paper on all of the flaws in this one game.,


Yes, I'd be surprised if there weren't actual college writing courses that use the game for examples of how not to write a story.

And the ending choices seem already like a college behavioral psych experiment.

"Hmm... Let's see how many people would actually be alright with shoving permanent cellular service into the brains of everyone in the galaxy..."

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DrwEddy wrote...

Yes, I still hate the endings.
Is it too much to ask a reunion scene with Shephard and thier crew/LI?


Exactly this. It would be the only thing that would make me accept the current ending. :unsure:

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zioninzion wrote...

ReinRaus wrote...

I like the endings after the EC came out. I loved the game until the endings before EC.

One thing I don't really understand is, why do people who hate the game hang out in this forum? I am not trying to judge you or anything, I just don't simply understand :/


Maybe people are misusing the word hate. I hate red pepper so I refrain from eating it and dont discuss it :P I think with ME, they gave us 100+ hours of incredible story building and character building. On priority Earth you have such sad and awful goodbyes to everyone you met and love, you end up saying to yourself "no way wont I come out of this reunited - anything less is sadistic". And then you meet the star-brat and you left with 4 ****ty options and everything else is negated.

People love the game and they want to something better even if they feel angry. I personally do not hang out here to bash the game. I love the game - even the ****ty endings because its given me something to debate about and think about.

Also there are so many disagreements and conspiracy theories (IT the one I subscribe to) that it makes being in the forums fun. :lol:

Just get rid of space magic in ME4 please :wizard:


Yeah, I know what you mean and it makes sense but you don't really hate the game, just the endings right? Some fans almost hate EVERYTHING about it and still hang out here.

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Eterna5 wrote...

Bester76 wrote...

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Nope. Still hate the ending.

Completely undermines everything that's gone before it.


How exactly?


Play ME1, enjoy it? Doesn't matter, you're still going to get that BS ending.

Play ME2, enjoy it? Doesn't matter, you're still going to get that BS ending. 

Play ME3, enjoying it? Doesn't matter, we're about to pull this clusterf*ck of an ending out of our a**es on you.

ME1, ME2 and the majority of ME3 are a journey. The end of ME3 is the destination. In the end, just as you're about to arrive, you get diverted to BS-land. Consequently you wonder if the journey was even worth it in the first place.


I don't think you know what undermine means. 


And since you frequent these boards you seem only to have asked the question in order to be given an answer you already know-you know very well why people feel that the ending of ME3 undermines the other games, but you want this to be an argument.

ME3 undermines them because the themes that resounded within them and the things achieved are disregarded at the end.  It makes their parts of the story meaningless.  It renders all those things that were done in them pointless.  Themes of unity, diversity, redemption, self-determination are all smashed to bits.  And so many other things, but I know you already know what people feel about all this.  Control disregards all of the conflict with TIM and anyone indoctrinated or trying to control anyone or anything else.  Synthesis ignores the knowledge of how bad early advancement of people can be and it also requires you to ignore the fact that it is similar to everything done to the Krogan, as well as every attempt at it led to horrifying results-it also does not help that this is what even the reapers wanted all along.  Destroy requires that you kill a whole race of people (even if you don't side with the geth all other synthetics will be destroyed) and may have other unknown consequences-most of what it does is really ambiguous.

Yes, the endings undermine almost all of the rest of the story.  You may have a different opinion. 

#168
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 I dno't hate it, I just get a kind of numb feeling and a strong desire to mute the game and check back every ten minutes or so to see if it's stuck on a dialogue wheel

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ReinRaus wrote...

I like the endings after the EC came out. I loved the game until the endings before EC.

One thing I don't really understand is, why do people who hate the game hang out in this forum? I am not trying to judge you or anything, I just don't simply understand :/


You know, I would much rather be playing the Mass Effect series instead of being on the forums all the time,  But the thing of it is, ME3 ruined the trilogy (at least at this point, anyway) for me.  I can't imagine restarting the series now because of all the things that resulted in ME3, and it's not just the ending, either, that's just one (albeit large) complaint I have with ME3. 

I'm still here because I still have a profound love for the series, but I can't 'participate' in that by playing the games anymore, as unfortunate as it sounds.  So here I am, reading threads about how much the game sucked and why, etc.  I don't try to be spiteful or anything like that, I just feel...eh...about the series now, so instead of playing the games and getting enjoyment out of it, here I am.

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Mahrac wrote...

 I dno't hate it, I just get a kind of numb feeling and a strong desire to mute the game and check back every ten minutes or so to see if it's stuck on a dialogue wheel


HA!!

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m2iCodeJockey wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Epique Phael767 wrote...
I could write a college thesis paper on all of the flaws in this one game.,


Yes, I'd be surprised if there weren't actual college writing courses that use the game for examples of how not to write a story.

And the ending choices seem already like a college behavioral psych experiment.

"Hmm... Let's see how many people would actually be alright with shoving permanent cellular service into the brains of everyone in the galaxy..."


Yeah.  Even when people were asked in a poll here if they would want to be synthesized, the majority said no. 

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Yup still hate the endings .

I don't know how someone could have possibly thought the original endings  were a good idea !

granted the EC does clarifys things.

but what i found stupid was the whole crucible mess .

why would countless generations design a contraption were the only way you could interact with it would be

"shooting bullets at it"  or "touching live electrodes with millions volts runing threw it" or "jump into the green lazor" 

seriously?

what was all that about O.o

and don't get me started on the star kid .............

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iiNOMADii wrote...

ReinRaus wrote...

I like the endings after the EC came out. I loved the game until the endings before EC.

One thing I don't really understand is, why do people who hate the game hang out in this forum? I am not trying to judge you or anything, I just don't simply understand :/


You know, I would much rather be playing the Mass Effect series instead of being on the forums all the time,  But the thing of it is, ME3 ruined the trilogy (at least at this point, anyway) for me.  I can't imagine restarting the series now because of all the things that resulted in ME3, and it's not just the ending, either, that's just one (albeit large) complaint I have with ME3. 

I'm still here because I still have a profound love for the series, but I can't 'participate' in that by playing the games anymore, as unfortunate as it sounds.  So here I am, reading threads about how much the game sucked and why, etc.  I don't try to be spiteful or anything like that, I just feel...eh...about the series now, so instead of playing the games and getting enjoyment out of it, here I am.


The thing is that there are actually some very good discussions going on and they are way more fun than observing the ending play itself out.  The real irony if you will of the whole thing is that conversations that begin with disliking the endings often result in other and far more interesting discussions than the ending conversation with the vid kid.

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It's not so much hate anymore as it is sheer disappointment for me. I've largely moved on, haven't touch the game in weeks (possibly months?), but I still pop in here once in a while with the silly hope that something will happen to respark my interest in the series.

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circe wrote...

It's not so much hate anymore as it is sheer disappointment for me. I've largely moved on, haven't touch the game in weeks (possibly months?), but I still pop in here once in a while with the silly hope that something will happen to respark my interest in the series.


ditto