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[Wifflebottom]

Where does it say the Inquisition is anti-mage?

[Robhuzz]

Plaintiff wrote...

There is no evidence that the Inquisition of DA3 will be an anti-mage faction.

I doubt very much that Bioware is going to make two separate games and sell them for the price of one.

I can see EA adding a partially seperate storyline for mage characters that you can unlock through microtransactions for a mere 20 bucks...

Seriously though. People were already upset at not being able to play a dwarf or elf in DA2, imagine the outrage if you can no longer play as a mage in this one either (mandatory dwarf PC). I imagine the DA team still has enough quality writers left to pull off a decent story that also allows room for a mage PC. The inquisition, if you are even a part of it - that wasn't even confirmed afaik, most likely won't be a mage hunting party. 

[Kenshen]

This is a topic I will be watching very closely once more info is released about DA3. I refuse to be forced into a role of a mage hater especially since the mage is my favorite class in DA.

[Dintonta]

thats1evildude wrote...

Perhaps the mage has rightfully seen that their powers are a curse and wish to purge Thedas of this evil?

In the webcomic Girl Genius, the world is ruled by unusually gifted mad scientists referred to as Sparks. One of these Sparks, Othar Tryggvassen, is determined to kill every last one of them, including himself, because he sees the damage that Sparks have inflicted on the world. He's a perfect example of how I would play such a character (though perhaps slightly less insane than Othar).

Or such a mage could be an infiltrator from a very libertarian faction who would try to approach the Divine, take control of her mind via blood-magic, and turn the Chantry against the templars... definitively.
That would be how I would play such a mage anyway...

[syllogi]

I just don't want being a mage to be ignored. It's a huge deal to be a mage in Thedas, and even when traveling with templars, ordinary folk don't react well to them. So if you're an apostate who reveals themself, or a sanctioned Grey Warden/Circle Mage, I'd like to see people notice, and have strong opinions about mages throwing fireballs in the middle of towns, for example.

[Auintus]

The Inquisition doesn't automatically side with templars/chantry. They were a group dedicated to maintaining order whatever the cost. At the time, it was an anti-magic stance because of the prevalence of abominations and the like. The goal is order, not mage suppression, though that is one method by which it could be attained.

[The Baconer]

Dintonta wrote...
Or such a mage could be an infiltrator from a very libertarian faction who would try to approach the Divine, take control of her mind via blood-magic, and turn the Chantry against the templars... definitively.
That would be how I would play such a mage anyway...

[Dintonta]

@The Baconer : I propose RRR (Red Rum Runners) as a name for such a faction.

@Nyoka : Since I didn't play DA2 yet, I often stick unwittingly with the wrong feeling that DA3 will be the sequel of my libertarian blood-mage warden's adventures...
You are certainly right : evolutions in-game are often more satisfying.

[Dintonta]

*Double-post*

Modifié par Dintonta, 28 septembre 2012 - 09:33 .

[Zoe]

Plaintiff wrote...

I doubt very much that Bioware is going to make two separate games and sell them for the price of one.

You wouldn't need a separate game if your character was a mage or mage supporter. Depending on whether your character joined the Inquisition, a mage group, or stayed neutral, you could have some different side quests, a different intro or other act, or just different approaches to the main quests. Other games have done this. It could also determine how different people or towns/regions view and react to your character as well as who is there to help (or cause trouble) during any big events or conflicts.

Modifié par Keriana, 29 septembre 2012 - 12:26 .

[Eveangaline]

Nyoka wrote...

IIRC the Inquisition agreed to become the armed tentacle of the Chantry, abiding by its authority.

Circle mage that becomes an apostate symphasizer during the course of the game sound good to me. Apostate from start, not so much.

But why would such a tentacle allow a known mage into a position of authority?

[Vandicus]

Eveangaline wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

IIRC the Inquisition agreed to become the armed tentacle of the Chantry, abiding by its authority.

Circle mage that becomes an apostate symphasizer during the course of the game sound good to me. Apostate from start, not so much.

But why would such a tentacle allow a known mage into a position of authority?

The Old Inquisition predates the Chantry and Andraste. The Old Inquisition joined the Chantry at the behest of Emperor Drakon, who also persuaded the Grey Wardens to adopt the Andrastian faith as their official religion. The Old Inquisition became the templars. The templars are no longer part of the Chantry.

We don't know if these templars simply became the new Inquisition, though I find it unlikely since they're sort've busy fighting the mages, and I don't think they'd be able to devote huge amounts of resources to this investigation(which the leak says is the main purpose of the Inquisition).

What leads you to believe the Inquisition is inherently anti-mage?

[ImperatorMortis]

I don't see why a Mage couldn't join the inquisition, and not be one of those self hating mages. 


http://dragonage.wik...iki/Inquisition

According to this. They wanted to defend Thedas from the dangers of Magic. That could mean almost anything. Like being a Demon Hunter(Which is BADASS, and mages would be perfect for), hunting Blood Mages, etc.

Being a Demon Hunting Mage would be so awesome you don't even know. I'm actually starting to get a lot of Warhammer 40,000 vibes from this. 

And a lot of Inquisitors in the Warhammer 40k verse are Psykers. Psychics which are pretty much the exact equivalent of Mages in the Dragon Age verse.

Ridiculous ammount of power, risk of being possessed by a Demon, etc. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 16 octobre 2012 - 10:06 .

[Terrorize69]

Eveangaline wrote...

Running an anti-magic faction when you yourself are a mage wouldn't make much sense, if only because they probably wouldn't let you be in it since they'd think you should be in the circle

So....maybe you only start as an inquisitor if you're playing a rogue or warrior, and if you're a mage, you're on the run from inquisitors? 

The Divine and the Seekers arn't at war with the mages nor are they anti-mage, infact they want to broker peace. So there is a good chance they would recruit a mage or mages as a sign of good faith.

Templars who wise to wage war on the mages on there own terms have gone rouge from the Chantry and the Seekers.

Modifié par Terrorize69, 16 octobre 2012 - 10:04 .

[scootermcgaffin]

Okay a couple questions here.

1) is there any indication that the Inquisition is a mage hunting group?
2) is there any indication that the MC is an inquisitor?

[ImperatorMortis]

scootermcgaffin wrote...

Okay a couple questions here.

1) is there any indication that the Inquisition is a mage hunting group?
2) is there any indication that the MC is an inquisitor?

1) It doesn't outright say that they hunt Mages. Just that they try to protect people from the dangers of magic. 
     Blood Magic mind control, Demons, etc.
     Its very reasonable that a average mage might sympathise with that. 

2) Yes, it was confirmed. 

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a good guy Blood Mage NPC working for the Inquisition. Ironically Blood Magic would be awesome for hunting demons/renegade Blood Mages. And mind control would be good gathering information. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 16 octobre 2012 - 10:12 .

[wright1978]

Intrigued how this whole inquisition thing is going to play out. I'd assume it would have to be neutral but the name does not at all suggest neutrality.

[scootermcgaffin]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

2) Yes, it was confirmed. 

Do you have a souce, by chance? I'm not disbelieving you or anything at all, I just genuinely don't know so am curious. I guess it'd be premature since we know so little, but I could use a "what do we know about DA3 so far" thread with links to confirmation haha.  

[ImperatorMortis]

wright1978 wrote...

Intrigued how this whole inquisition thing is going to play out. I'd assume it would have to be neutral but the name does not at all suggest neutrality.

They are mostly neutral I assume. When they were formed they were on their own, they only joined the Chantry later. 

I imagine that they'd be a morally ambiguous group like the Grey Wardens, but with less Dark Spawn blood. 

[Terrorize69]

scootermcgaffin wrote...

Okay a couple questions here.

1) is there any indication that the Inquisition is a mage hunting group?
2) is there any indication that the MC is an inquisitor?

1) First a quote,

The Inquisition was a group
of people who, following the First Blight, rose up to defend Thedas
from the dangers of magic and heretics. The Inquisition later joined
with the Chantry and became the Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order

The Inquisition no longer exists in the same function, The Templars took on the role of mage hunters and defenders agaisnt magic, while the Seekers policed the Templars to make sure they followed the Chantry and didn't disrupt the balance.

The Templars have since largely broke of from the Divine to wage their war, the Seekers strive to regain peace between the two before the Divine and Chantry is lost. (My view on events etc anyway)

2) I've not seen any confirmation. But it largely makes sense given where the game is based, who we are likely to be allied with (atleast at the start) and the seekers involvement in DA2.

[Terrorize69]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Intrigued how this whole inquisition thing is going to play out. I'd assume it would have to be neutral but the name does not at all suggest neutrality.

They are mostly neutral I assume. When they were formed they were on their own, they only joined the Chantry later. 

I imagine that they'd be a morally ambiguous group like the Grey Wardens, but with less Dark Spawn blood. 

Do not be put of by the name, that does suggest one sided torture etc. An Inquisitor is normally an agent of a relgious group, in this case the Chantry and the Divine. The Templars are now mostly seperated from this the Chantry.

So yes the Inquisitor would be neutral in the conflict, serving only the Divine. Ofcourse this can easily change by your choices and actions during the game.

[wright1978]

Terrorize69 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Intrigued how this whole inquisition thing is going to play out. I'd assume it would have to be neutral but the name does not at all suggest neutrality.

They are mostly neutral I assume. When they were formed they were on their own, they only joined the Chantry later. 

I imagine that they'd be a morally ambiguous group like the Grey Wardens, but with less Dark Spawn blood. 

Do not be put of by the name, that does suggest one sided torture etc. An Inquisitor is normally an agent of a relgious group, in this case the Chantry and the Divine. The Templars are now mostly seperated from this the Chantry.

So yes the Inquisitor would be neutral in the conflict, serving only the Divine. Ofcourse this can easily change by your choices and actions during the game.

Serving the Divine is in no way neutral.

[Terrorize69]

wright1978 wrote...

Terrorize69 wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

Intrigued how this whole inquisition thing is going to play out. I'd assume it would have to be neutral but the name does not at all suggest neutrality.

They are mostly neutral I assume. When they were formed they were on their own, they only joined the Chantry later. 

I imagine that they'd be a morally ambiguous group like the Grey Wardens, but with less Dark Spawn blood. 

Do not be put of by the name, that does suggest one sided torture etc. An Inquisitor is normally an agent of a relgious group, in this case the Chantry and the Divine. The Templars are now mostly seperated from this the Chantry.

So yes the Inquisitor would be neutral in the conflict, serving only the Divine. Ofcourse this can easily change by your choices and actions during the game.

Serving the Divine is in no way neutral.

The Divine wants peace, that is pretty neutral.