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[MichaelStuart]

In Dragon Age 3 I would like to be able to choose my character's age.
I don't mean something like being able to add some grey hair, I mean how many years my characters has lived and have this be recognize by other characters.

I propose three options
Young: late teens early 20s
middle aged: 30s, 40s, 50s
Old: 60s 70s 80s 90s.

Your age will affect how NPCs deal with you.
In real life, for better or worse,people are often treated different dependent on their age, so why not add this to the game.

Just out of curiosity.
What does everyone think the minimum and maximum age of a player character should be?


Note: I would prefer your age not affect your skills.

 

 

Modifié par MichaelStuart, 28 septembre 2012 - 01:50 .

[SpunkyMonkey]

Not a bad idea to be honest.

Certainly it would make for some interesting dialogue options.

[Maverick827]

I think this would only take away from how many times they can take your race or class into consideration in dialog, which I'd personally rather have more of.

[AlienWolf728]

I like this idea. If we must play as a human again, this would be a nice alternative.

[Emzamination]

Old people would just get pummeled in combat.

[SpunkyMonkey]

Emzamination wrote...

Old people would just get pummeled in combat.

George Foreman won a world title at 45.

But yeah, if you're buying a game which requires you to believe in dragons, elves, magic and an alternate dimension then there's no way you could accept that people above 40 could fight

Modifié par SpunkyMonkey, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:40 .

[R2s Muse]

Interesting idea. Although, typically we start out these RPGs as a level one character, which connotes some kind of inexperience or greenhorn-edness. Not sure if that meshes with being old in age, although I'm sure Thedas is probably also free of age discrimination and supports non-traditional students...

One way around this, I've been thinking, is that if your character is selected like the Seekers are, from among the best of the best, you might be a little further along in your path to badass-edness.

[Plaintiff]

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Old people would just get pummeled in combat.

George Foreman won a world title at 45.

But yeah, if you're buying a game which requires you to believe in dragons, elves, magic and an alternate dimension then there's no way you could accept that people above 40 could fight

45 isn't that old. I could even believe 50-60. Wynne is somewhere in that area I believe.

70 is pushing it, however.

[Emzamination]

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Old people would just get pummeled in combat.

George Foreman won a world title at 45.

But yeah, if you're buying a game which requires you to believe in dragons, elves, magic and an alternate dimension then there's no way you could accept that people above 35 could fight

45 isn't old.it's considered one of the prime years.Dragons,elves and magic are oddly more conceivable than a 70+ rogue/warrior still going strong on the combat front.Even in a fantasy setting the heavy armor should be enough to tire out the pc without the level 2 bandits schooling him/her into retirement.

[MichaelStuart]

R2s Muse wrote...

Interesting idea. Although, typically we start out these RPGs as a level one character, which connotes some kind of inexperience or greenhorn-edness. Not sure if that meshes with being old in age, although I'm sure Thedas is probably also free of age discrimination and supports non-traditional students...

One way around this, I've been thinking, is that if your character is selected like the Seekers are, from among the best of the best, you might be a little further along in your path to badass-edness.

I would imagine if you choose a older character you would start out as level 1 because your out of practice.

[MichaelStuart]

My point is already being made.
People expect older people to be feeble.
If you choose a old character and try to intimate something, they'll likely laugh in your face and attack you.

I have a good rule. Never to judge someone, young or old by there age.
Take this from someone who saw a 70 year old fight off two teenagers.

Modifié par MichaelStuart, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:54 .

[Plaintiff]

MichaelStuart wrote...
Take this from someone who saw a 70 year old fight off two teenagers.

An exception, not the rule.

It's basic medical fact. When you're older all sorts of things happen to your body that make you less combat-capable.

[MichaelStuart]

Plaintiff wrote...

MichaelStuart wrote...
Take this from someone who saw a 70 year old fight off two teenagers.

An exception, not the rule.

It's basic medical fact. When you're older all sorts of things happen to your body that make you less combat-capable.

We will be the player character. We will be the exception to everything.

[Emzamination]

MichaelStuart wrote...

My point is already being made.
People expect older people to be feeble.
If you choose a old character and try to intimate something, they'll likely laugh in your face and attack you.

I have a good rule. Never to judge someone, young or old by there age.
Take this from someone who saw a 70 year old fight off two teenagers.

It's fact that the older one gets, the more bone density one loses and the less dexterous one becomes.While it's remotely conceivable that a 70+ warrior could probably fight off some bandits in a up close fight, he/she isn't going to be ducking,dodging,out manuvering or performing combat rolls anytime soon which means if they get swarmed its over.A 70+ mage I could see but anything else... neh.

Modifié par Emzamination, 28 septembre 2012 - 01:06 .

[The RPGenius]

This was totally my idea first.

[tanarri23]

That's a cool idea. The games already let you make your character look older than Hawke's 25-35 years, or the Warden's late teens, so it'd be nice if you could actually state their age and the world would react to it.

And while an average 70 year old is indeed not combat-capable (and an average person in a medieval-type setting isn't likely to live that long either), that doesn't necessarily apply to your very exceptional videogame protagonist.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Loghain is old.
Arl Howe is old
Wynne is old.

None of them seem to be struggling when fight.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 28 septembre 2012 - 01:44 .

[SpunkyMonkey]

Emzamination wrote...

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Old people would just get pummeled in combat.

George Foreman won a world title at 45.

But yeah, if you're buying a game which requires you to believe in dragons, elves, magic and an alternate dimension then there's no way you could accept that people above 35 could fight

45 isn't old.it's considered one of the prime years.Dragons,elves and magic are oddly more conceivable than a 70+ rogue/warrior still going strong on the combat front.Even in a fantasy setting the heavy armor should be enough to tire out the pc without the level 2 bandits schooling him/her into retirement.

Yeah, I was just messin about, hence the laugh smiley at the end.

But no, dragons, elves and magic are no-where near as concieveable as a 70 y/o going strong on the combat front, because people over 70 have actually fought before (however poorly) dragons, magic and elves don't exist. I really don't find it that hard to believe that in a world where you can do all the impossible things which you can do in DA, there couldn't be a potion or method of magic treatment which prolonged strength and combat abilities into old age.

And it'll be lyrium based no doubt lol.

Modifié par SpunkyMonkey, 28 septembre 2012 - 01:20 .

[MichaelStuart]

Emzamination wrote...

MichaelStuart wrote...

My point is already being made.
People expect older people to be feeble.
If you choose a old character and try to intimate something, they'll likely laugh in your face and attack you.

I have a good rule. Never to judge someone, young or old by there age.
Take this from someone who saw a 70 year old fight off two teenagers.

It's fact that the older one gets, the more bone density one loses and the less dexterous one becomes.While it's remotely conceivable that a 70+ warrior could probably fight off some bandits in a up close fight, he/she isn't going to be ducking,dodging,out manuvering or performing combat rolls anytime soon which means if they get swarmed its over.A 70+ mage I could see but anything else... neh.

I would prefer no one by combat rolls reguardless of age.
I mean really, why would anyone roll?

I must admit I'm surprised that the idea that playing as a old warrior is that much of a suspension of disbelief?

[DPSSOC]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Loghain is old.
Arl Howe is old
Wynne is old.

None of them seem to be strugg;ing when fight.

This.

[cindercatz]

Considering how much dialogue is in the game... I'd like it within a certain boundary. I want origin stories first and foremost, and racial selection. So if a particular origin would call for a character to be of a certain age range, then I'm all for that age restriction.

Otherwise, upper 50s and beyond is pushing it, younger for elves if they remember their codex (early forties or younger?). But if it's done, it couldn't be something that gets commonly referenced, just a few lines hear and there, maybe at the start, when the love interest heats up, maybe in a duel. It can't be any kind of serious drain on total dialogue. If your character were to die at some point, maybe reference the year of their birth and death. Keep it simple, but this is something I support in principle.

edit: More importantly though, I'd like to see age progression recognized over time. I like both though.

Modifié par cindercatz, 28 septembre 2012 - 01:33 .

[Emzamination]

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Loghain is old.
Arl Howe is old
Wynne is old.

None of them seem to be strugg;ing when fight.

Loghain - Early Fifties
Arl Howe - Early Fifties
Wynne - Early/mid sixties/mage

[Wulfram]

If they were doing origins I suppose they could have them be at different ages. I don't think an old protagonist would make much sense for the sort of adventuring hero we tend to get in Bioware games.

I mean an old guy whose tougher than he looks and can take out the occasional person who underestimates them, sure, that could work. But going around assaulting fortresses with 3 other guys and fighting Dragons?

Modifié par Wulfram, 28 septembre 2012 - 01:34 .

[cindercatz]

edit: Yeah, I tend to think if a late 50s martial arts expert who's primarily done stunt work all his life like Jackie Chan (for instance) starts to hit his wall in his 50s, a career warrior, even at peak ability and maintenance, would tend to start doing the same at least by that time. It's not that you don't maintain your knowledge and general level of ability. It's that your body starts to break down in your thirties, and then over time, no matter how great a warrior you might be, those little injuries and basic wear and tear start to take their toll.

The RPGenius wrote...

This was totally my idea first.

And I proposed variable age and species origins for Mass Effect 4 before that.

It's a good idea. BioWare should consider it seriously.

Modifié par cindercatz, 28 septembre 2012 - 01:45 .

[Emzamination]

SpunkyMonkey wrote...

Yeah, I was just messin about, hence the laugh smiley at the end.

But no, dragons, elves and magic are no-where near as concieveable as a 70 y/o going strong on the combat front, because people over 70 have actually fought before (however poorly) dragons, magic and elves don't exist. I really don't find it that hard to believe that in a world where you can do all the impossible things which you can do in DA, there couldn't be a potion or method of magic treatment which prolonged strength and combat abilities into old age.

And it'll be lyrium based no doubt lol.

Going to have to disagree, the archdemon is a more conceivable sight than a 70+ year old still trying to mow down evil with a blade.Thedas is indeed a world where impossible and unimaginable things reside, well all except world peace.