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[Rolo Kipp]

 <looking down...>

I'm worried. <and shaken>
You got that right, pretty black bird <gee, thanks boss>
Don't get a swelled head. Compliments merely show how worried... <and shaken>
...I am. Yup.

You guys know how optimistic and positive I try to be. <and the ladies know how...>
Hush, bird. No time for banter today. <grump>

Some of you may know I submitted my first stories to the Neverwinter Nights Vault in 1999 under Valen and that I've recently been trying to do what I can to revitalize it under Maximus. Now I'm worried (and shaken, yes, we know Bother). The Vault is a simply huge repository of more than a decade of community effort in diversifying and enhancing NwN and NwN2. It's in serious trouble. It is currently working in "read-only" mode.

What I am going to do about it:
I have a domain for the next 5 years with unlimited storage/bandwidth. I will be adding a "Vault Project" content type to it to allow the archiving of content salvaged from the Vault. While the Vault is viable it is meant to be a mirror, a back up of the Vault. Should something happen *shudder*, I hope it will act like (but do a better job at saving files) the Wayback Machine.

In fact, the VPP is going to push *all* my other projects to the back burner. (I'll still work on the CCC off-line Edit: and the Q window lights :-) I like that project :-).
Once I get the neverwintervault.net site set up to recieve Vault projects, I'm going to start salvaging the haks, as that is my personal highest priority - the custom content.

The procedure:

• Go to the project list for the category I'm committing to. pull up the next project in the browser.
• Create a sub-directory with the name of the project. save the webpage in that sub-directory to capture the project info (and comments - there's a lot of info in the comments).
• Download all associated files (but not links to other projects) to that directory
• Repeat. (The object here is to get each project *and it's info* into local storage ASAP)
• When time permits, upload the projects to nwn-cc.

What I would like (very much!) is some help. Are there any people out there who have good bandwidth and large harddrives and time on their hands? Post here if you'll commit to a project category (or even a partial category like mods pages 1-5). Then go register on neverwintervault.net  so you can upload when I get the content type defined (this weekend).

Categories:

• NWN Screenshots  - Michael DarkAngel COMPLETED - 21GB!
• NWN Characters  - Eric of Atrophy
• NWN Creatures  - NWN_baba yaga
• NWN Hakpaks -  Rolo Kipp
• NWN Models  - Pstemarie
• NWN Modules (pages 1-10) - Lovelamb
• NWN Modules (pages 11+) - No Committment
• NWN Movies  - No committment
• NWN Other  - Khuzadrepa
• NWN Prefabs  - No committment
• NWN Portraits  - No committment
• NWN Scripts  - No committment
• Sounds  - No committment
• NWN Textures  - Tarot Redhand
• NWN2 User Screenshots  - No committment
• NWN2 Strategies  - No committment
• NWN2 Ideas  - No committment
• NWN2 Tutorials  - No committment
• NWN2 Links  - No committment
• NWN2 Other  - No committment
• NWN2 Movies  - No committment
• NWN2 UI  - No committment
• NWN2 Visual Effects  - No committment
• NWN2 Prefabs: Blueprints  - No committment
• NWN2 Area Prefabs  - No committment
• NWN2 Plug-Ins  - No committment
• NWN2 Portraits  - No committment
• NWN2 Scripts  - No committment
• NWN2 Tools  - No committment
• NWN2 International Modules  - No committment
• NWN2 English Modules  - Stealth Committment
• NWN2 Module Specific Hakpaks  - No committment
• NWN2 Combined Hakpaks  - No committment
• NWN2 Original Hakpaks  - No committment
• NWN2 Characters  - No committment
• NWN2 PWC  - No committment
• NWN2 Models  - No committment
• NWN2 Textures  - No committment

Edit: And *please* don't burnout on this project! I'm only asking for an hour or two a night, when you have time...

Caveat: this is an independent effort unaffiliated with the Vault, Maximus or IGN, with the exception that it is *not* meant to supplant or compete in any way with the Vault. It is meant to safeguard the community content.

I am an Admin for the Vault and I have no intention of abusing that trust. I am, in fact, seeking to coordinate this with my boss :-)

It is not meant to compete with the Nexus or the Moddb or any of the other excellent community sites in my sig. They wouldn't be in my sig if I didn't respect and, in some cases, love those sites.

<...to try and avoid stepping on toes>

Modifié par Rolo Kipp, 14 octobre 2012 - 07:17 .

[Michael DarkAngel]

I'll offer what help I can.  My biggest issue is time.  I'll only have a few hours a night, a little more on weekends, but I have the bandwidth and HD space covered.

Might as well make my first commitment right at the top of the list -- NWN Screenshots.  Gotta start somewhere right?


  MDA

[Rolo Kipp]

<dances a little...>

WooHOO! *Bless* you, you dark angel of mercy ;-)

<...jig>

[virusman]

It may be much more efficient to write a web crawler (or use an existing one) that'd download all Vault content.

[Rolo Kipp]

<not...>

I tried archiving the site with wget and there is simply so very many links on each page and sooooo much other content that it took 8 hours to get a very few pages. Someone better with WGet (or something) might be able to do better.
Edit: I do have access to the recent files over 25mb, but not to the project info the authors submitted or to the comments.

If someone could web-crawl the project pages on the vault and store all the entries in CSV or excel format, I can import them into the VPP content types (which is a drupal front-end on a mySQL db). Otherwise, I just figured to do it the old fashioned way, since many hands could make relatively short work of it.

I'm just hoping to have a relatively safe backup of the content by the end of the year.

But every suggestion/comment & concern is greatly appreciated :-) How are you at web-crawlers, VM? ;-)
Edit: if I have an efficient archiving web-crawler for the files/images themselves, I'd only need help getting the project info/comments... I think :-P

<...getting it>

Modifié par Rolo Kipp, 28 septembre 2012 - 04:38 .

[NWN_baba yaga]

I have a lot of hak content from the vault already that is relatively safe and soon I´ll buy another large HD for what i can start collecting more individual content (handpicked) from placeables, creatures, pc parts and tilesets. While collecting I can write a list with everything downloaded and so at least that stuff will be safe for the future or we sync up collecting things?

What i will avoid are collections paks and only gather material that once it is gone it is gone forever. The hard part will be about scripts and modules. Modules always use to much individual content which is almost impossible to gather and archive in a reasonable handy way manually.

Modifié par NWN_baba yaga, 28 septembre 2012 - 04:48 .

[NWN_baba yaga]

well i will do the creature part Rolo!

[Rolo Kipp]

<encouraging...>

I will always encourage NwN fanatics to safeguard content individually, BY. Too many times I've found stuff that's vanished by asking "Anyone have...?".

I also have a lot of stuff (50 or 60gbs I think) archived. What I want to do is get it up in a backup site so others can access it/update it/add to it while the Vault is (temporarily, I do very sincerely hope!) in read-only mode. That means putting the projects together - info/files/screenies/comments).

So D/L as planned with my encouragement :-) But, if you have time after I get the site put together, you might also U/L your favorites to nwn-cc? All that stuff I have is bare files, no info/comments/screenies, etc. So I'll have to grab that stuff and U/L it myself. And, as I said, I'll be concentrating on the nwn1 haks.

<...certain types of greed>

[Rolo Kipp]

<dancing...>

WooHOO! My *favorite* old witch! You rock!

<...with the old crone>

[NWN_baba yaga]

For the creatures i will also gather the original authors informations and 1 screenshot. Just tell us when your ready with the site so i can start uploading as well:)

[Rolo Kipp]

 <eyeballing...>

You can go register now (while I'm online and can approve you - all my old friends from here are *insta*-approved, I promise :-). The content type will be set up this weekend and I'll bump that here when it's live.

<...his calendar>

[nwnsmith]

silly question, but does noone have access to the http server?

[Rolo Kipp]

<whips out his snitch-blade...>

Maximus does. I don't. According to the list of admins, we are it.
He *is* working on it, but he is paid full-time to work on IGN's other sites and he pretty much keeps NwVault up as a labor of love.

It is the thought of something happening to it, and the stagnation occurring right now that woke me up in a cold sweat this morning. I'm inherently lazy, but I love this game and this community. :-P

<...and points>

[NWN_baba yaga]

Registered! And well yeah, we better move now as to a date where it´s to late...

[Khuzadrepa]

I would like to help, Rolo. I'll get the 'Other' section, as there a lot of good tools in there.

[Rolo Kipp]

<dances...>

WooHOO! Thank you Big K :-)

<...a little, vaguely russian-looking dance>

[Pstemarie]

Rolo, I'd be glad to take models.

[Rolo Kipp]

<dances...>

WooHOO! What a model citizen you are, Paul =)

<...on the q t>

[Pstemarie]

And the puns go on...

Really is good to have you back - puns and all.

[Rolo Kipp]

<already looks the part...>

*Jimmy Durante voice* I just gotta be me. A-chachacha!

<...with his big nose>

[Tarot Redhand]

Rolo I would love to help but I am on pre-paid inet at the moment. Having looked through your list, I had a thought. As there is a lot of nwn2 stuff have you posted a link in the nwn2 custom content section of these boards. I'm sure that there must be people in there who would love to come on-board. Actually now I think about it, it wouldn't hurt to post a link to this thread in the modules, toolset and scripting forums of the nwn section either.

Couple of practicalities spring to mind.

• Do you want the pages saving as a web archive (mht) or just html with seperate pictures etc.?
• What do you want to do with multi-page comments?

TR

Modifié par Tarot Redhand, 28 septembre 2012 - 11:12 .

[Tarot Redhand]

Rolo I'll give textures a try - compared to the rest of the entries there's only 6 pages.

TR

[The Amethyst Dragon]

Rolo Kipp wrote...

...Maximus does...He *is* working on it, but he is paid full-time to work on IGN's other sites and he pretty much keeps NwVault up as a labor of love.

I think the last few words here pretty much explain what most of us are doing still playing and working on stuff for a 10 year old computer game.

[OldTimeRadio]

Good idea. I was never able to come up with a good method to mirror the Vault in a way that I thought was useful but maybe we can find the answer to that one together.

Modifié par OldTimeRadio, 30 septembre 2012 - 07:56 .

[Eric of Atrophy]

Friends,

I don't hit this forum much, but I love NwN and I want to contribute to preserving the Vault! If no one objects, I can work on the NwN Characters section.