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[AlanC9]

Wulfram wrote...

Proves that Day 1 DLC isn't worth doing then, if a DLC coming out months later sells better.

But do the CE's rights to the DLC count as "sales"?

Just pointing out the loophole if people want to use it. 

Modifié par AlanC9, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:23 .

[eddieoctane]

AlanC9 wrote...

eddieoctane wrote...

If the figures for Leviathan aren't as great as Chris claims, DLC will be canceled, support will be dropped, and BioWare will be confirmed as dead.

Is the italed bit hyperbole?

Well, when you consider that this would make two console games that had support dropped in a row, and an MMO that went free to play in less than a year, the company can't be doing all that well. I would be surprised if EA didn't do something drastic as a result. So maybe it's hyperbole, but

The company might still be called "BioWare", but all the names we recognize could be gone. The founders already jumped ship. Drew doesn't work in the industry any longer, either. So I'd put my money on EA slowly replacing everyone of import at BioWare until it's no longer anything resembling the company we had fond memories of.

[SiriusXI]

Chris Priestly wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Seafood is always popular.

*chuckle*

It has been our largest selling DLC to date, but I'm not going into specific numbers.

Unfortunately the ending still sucks, so it can be as great as LOTSB... ultimatley nothing matters anyway

[BrookerT]

AnsinJung wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

Assuming Mr. Priestly is being truthful (not always a safe assumption), it is disappointing that Leviathan is selling so well.

I will continue to hold the wallet.

That echoes my disappointment.  I have no desire to see mediocrity rewarded, even if the DLC is above average.  Obviously, the ending ruins the series for me.  If it was just some crappy ending that didn't turn the plot upside down (the Reapers), then it wouldn't reach backward and strangle the life out of everything else.  I found Deus Ex HR's endings to be rather blah, but I still put 140 hours into the game and plan on running through it occasionally in the future.  Additionally, I don't regret or hate the DLC, although I did wait until it was on sale.

Just because Mass Effect originally hit the ball out of the park with the fun characters and universe doesn't mean they can do whatever with it and expect to please fans indefinitely.  Ask yourselves if Mordin Solus was as good in Mass Effect 3 as in 2, including the quality of voice acting.  Then ask yourselves if Bioware really is doing their best anymore.

Ok, I asked myself. Yes he was better, in every way.

[Cainne Chapel]

BrookerT wrote...

AnsinJung wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

Assuming Mr. Priestly is being truthful (not always a safe assumption), it is disappointing that Leviathan is selling so well.

I will continue to hold the wallet.

That echoes my disappointment.  I have no desire to see mediocrity rewarded, even if the DLC is above average.  Obviously, the ending ruins the series for me.  If it was just some crappy ending that didn't turn the plot upside down (the Reapers), then it wouldn't reach backward and strangle the life out of everything else.  I found Deus Ex HR's endings to be rather blah, but I still put 140 hours into the game and plan on running through it occasionally in the future.  Additionally, I don't regret or hate the DLC, although I did wait until it was on sale.

Just because Mass Effect originally hit the ball out of the park with the fun characters and universe doesn't mean they can do whatever with it and expect to please fans indefinitely.  Ask yourselves if Mordin Solus was as good in Mass Effect 3 as in 2, including the quality of voice acting.  Then ask yourselves if Bioware really is doing their best anymore.

Ok, I asked myself. Yes he was better, in every way.

I'm gonna have to agree, I liked his character even more as he progressed in ME3.

I guess some people see characters changing or growing as a BAD thing... why? I dont know, characters growing and expanding makes them seem all that more realistic and relatable to me.  That said I also prefer ME2/3 incarnations of most characters as opposed to their ME1 equivalents, which dont get me wrong, were not bad, but the characters just seemed so much better going forward, thanks to the groundwork of ME1

[AnsinJung]

BrookerT wrote...

AnsinJung wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

Assuming Mr. Priestly is being truthful (not always a safe assumption), it is disappointing that Leviathan is selling so well.

I will continue to hold the wallet.

That echoes my disappointment.  I have no desire to see mediocrity rewarded, even if the DLC is above average.  Obviously, the ending ruins the series for me.  If it was just some crappy ending that didn't turn the plot upside down (the Reapers), then it wouldn't reach backward and strangle the life out of everything else.  I found Deus Ex HR's endings to be rather blah, but I still put 140 hours into the game and plan on running through it occasionally in the future.  Additionally, I don't regret or hate the DLC, although I did wait until it was on sale.

Just because Mass Effect originally hit the ball out of the park with the fun characters and universe doesn't mean they can do whatever with it and expect to please fans indefinitely.  Ask yourselves if Mordin Solus was as good in Mass Effect 3 as in 2, including the quality of voice acting.  Then ask yourselves if Bioware really is doing their best anymore.

Ok, I asked myself. Yes he was better, in every way.

I guess reusing his singing was better in ME3 than when it wasn't old in ME2.

Anyways, I remember some of the uproar over not rehiring his original VA.  I suspect you're in quite the minority.  If you need a more indisputable (ha, everything's disputable because of "artistic integirty") example of Bioware's laziness on ME3, just look at the 2D body textures near the ending.  Those are worthy of my old Sega Genesis.

[fchopin]

I am happy the DLC sold well but hope there is more story DLC relating to the reapers and Leviathan's and not just fighting.

[clarkusdarkus]

Greatest selling Dlc....mwahaha some people really are suckers for punishment, mediocre linear and just damn right overpriced.....

youtube > Mass effect dlc

[fchopin]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Greatest selling Dlc....mwahaha some people really are suckers for punishment, mediocre linear and just damn right overpriced.....

youtube > Mass effect dlc

Are you telling me that you watched the whole DLC on YouTube? Why did you do that if you thought it was not good?
 
If you watched only part of it then you can not judge the DLC.

Modifié par fchopin, 29 septembre 2012 - 04:17 .

[BrookerT]

AnsinJung wrote...

BrookerT wrote...

AnsinJung wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

Assuming Mr. Priestly is being truthful (not always a safe assumption), it is disappointing that Leviathan is selling so well.

I will continue to hold the wallet.

That echoes my disappointment.  I have no desire to see mediocrity rewarded, even if the DLC is above average.  Obviously, the ending ruins the series for me.  If it was just some crappy ending that didn't turn the plot upside down (the Reapers), then it wouldn't reach backward and strangle the life out of everything else.  I found Deus Ex HR's endings to be rather blah, but I still put 140 hours into the game and plan on running through it occasionally in the future.  Additionally, I don't regret or hate the DLC, although I did wait until it was on sale.

Just because Mass Effect originally hit the ball out of the park with the fun characters and universe doesn't mean they can do whatever with it and expect to please fans indefinitely.  Ask yourselves if Mordin Solus was as good in Mass Effect 3 as in 2, including the quality of voice acting.  Then ask yourselves if Bioware really is doing their best anymore.

Ok, I asked myself. Yes he was better, in every way.

I guess reusing his singing was better in ME3 than when it wasn't old in ME2.

Anyways, I remember some of the uproar over not rehiring his original VA.  I suspect you're in quite the minority.  If you need a more indisputable (ha, everything's disputable because of "artistic integirty") example of Bioware's laziness on ME3, just look at the 2D body textures near the ending.  Those are worthy of my old Sega Genesis.

2D body textures, I don't doublt they exist, but could you remind me?

Laziness is not a fair word to use, rushed would be better. To get to what we got in 2 years is remarkable considering the coding work, just more time was needed. 

[Cainne Chapel]

To be fair brooker, the same could be said of ME2, that got done in 2 years as well,

In any case, Ansin, I was a HUGE fan of mordin in ME2, yet i have no issue with them not rehiring the VA for whatever reason, as the new guy actually did very well I feel. As for the 2d body textures, not quite sure what you're referring too, but I did notice muddy textures here and there, but that happened in all 3 games at some points so i'm not going to necessarily hold that against BW.

[Cainne Chapel]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Greatest selling Dlc....mwahaha some people really are suckers for punishment, mediocre linear and just damn right overpriced.....

youtube > Mass effect dlc

I would ask, why buy ANY game then if you can just watch them on Youtube honestly, especially if you;re going to complain about it.   If that were the case I could use Youtube as my reasoning for not liking or buying skyrim

besides i never recall any ME game NOT being linear, these aren't open world sandbox games ya know.

[Siran]

SiriusXI wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Seafood is always popular.

*chuckle*

It has been our largest selling DLC to date, but I'm not going into specific numbers.

Unfortunately the ending still sucks, so it can be as great as LOTSB... ultimatley nothing matters anyway

LotSB didn't change the endings one bit, too. Your argument doesn't make any sense.

Modifié par Siran, 29 septembre 2012 - 04:39 .

[Siran]

AnsinJung wrote...

I guess reusing his singing was better in ME3 than when it wasn't old in ME2.

Anyways, I remember some of the uproar over not rehiring his original VA.  I suspect you're in quite the minority.  If you need a more indisputable (ha, everything's disputable because of "artistic integirty") example of Bioware's laziness on ME3, just look at the 2D body textures near the ending.  Those are worthy of my old Sega Genesis.

So Krogan Queen already was in ME2, good to know...

If it weren't so blown out of proportion beforehand, I'm sure no one would have every noticed Mordin had a different VA. Yes, he was that good. Some people, honestly...

[BrookerT]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

To be fair brooker, the same could be said of ME2, that got done in 2 years as well,

In any case, Ansin, I was a HUGE fan of mordin in ME2, yet i have no issue with them not rehiring the VA for whatever reason, as the new guy actually did very well I feel. As for the 2d body textures, not quite sure what you're referring too, but I did notice muddy textures here and there, but that happened in all 3 games at some points so i'm not going to necessarily hold that against BW.

Yeah, I meant in regards to a couple of sloppy textures here and there, as naturally things do gat rushed in the development process, Mass Effect 2 was guilty of this as well. It was worse in Mass Effect  1 because everyhting refused to god dam load . 

[BrookerT]

Siran wrote...

AnsinJung wrote...

I guess reusing his singing was better in ME3 than when it wasn't old in ME2.

Anyways, I remember some of the uproar over not rehiring his original VA.  I suspect you're in quite the minority.  If you need a more indisputable (ha, everything's disputable because of "artistic integirty") example of Bioware's laziness on ME3, just look at the 2D body textures near the ending.  Those are worthy of my old Sega Genesis.

So Krogan Queen already was in ME2, good to know...

If it weren't so blown out of proportion beforehand, I'm sure no one would have every noticed Mordin had a different VA. Yes, he was that good. Some people, honestly...

Don't use logic, this is BSN

[Grogimus]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Judging by fan reactions probably ok. Not good but not bad either just average sales with mixed reviews overall.

Yea......right again.....

[Fatiguesdualism]

Leviathan download numbers on UK/(Scotland?) PSN are about a third of that for From Ashes and Extended Cut,(469/1531/1390) respectively.  I'm sure other folk can provide further information/anaylsis/opinion.

[fainmaca]

iakus wrote...
There were no rumors LOTSB would change ME2's ending.

Just sayin'

An illustration about starving men promised a feast and being given a packed lunch springs to mind. I reckon if Bioware said that the Trilogy version of the game changed the ending sales would soar.

[Cainne Chapel]

Grogimus wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Judging by fan reactions probably ok. Not good but not bad either just average sales with mixed reviews overall.

Yea......right again.....

Well judging by internet reactions you wouldnt expect CoD to sell NEARLY as well as it does either as its the "lowest common denominator" and denounced by internet wizards everywhere it seems

I'm sure most companies wish they could have as reviled a game as CoD which for what it does, does it quite well.  Hell even I pick it up every now and again and I HATE FPS (mostly).  But sometimes one comes along and if its good, I'll play it (Like Borderlands 2, and the upcoming Dishonored, and yes even Halo 4)

[clarkusdarkus]

Cainne Chapel wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Greatest selling Dlc....mwahaha some people really are suckers for punishment, mediocre linear and just damn right overpriced.....

youtube > Mass effect dlc

I would ask, why buy ANY game then if you can just watch them on Youtube honestly, especially if you;re going to complain about it.   If that were the case I could use Youtube as my reasoning for not liking or buying skyrim

besides i never recall any ME game NOT being linear, these aren't open world sandbox games ya know.

erm because some content is worth playing not watching? LOTSB worth buying > Any ME3 content youtube, i much prefer back in the day when Expansion packs meant something, now were paying £10 for a 2 hour action mode non rpg, but wait buy these weapons aswell......

Theres linear and then theres Action mode in an RPG

Modifié par clarkusdarkus, 29 septembre 2012 - 06:05 .

[BrookerT]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Greatest selling Dlc....mwahaha some people really are suckers for punishment, mediocre linear and just damn right overpriced.....

youtube > Mass effect dlc

I would ask, why buy ANY game then if you can just watch them on Youtube honestly, especially if you;re going to complain about it.   If that were the case I could use Youtube as my reasoning for not liking or buying skyrim

besides i never recall any ME game NOT being linear, these aren't open world sandbox games ya know.

erm because some content is worth playing not watching? LOTSB worth buying > Any ME3 content youtube, i much prefer back in the day when Expansion packs meant something, now were paying £10 for a 2 hour action mode non rpg, but wait buy these weapons aswell......

Theres linear and then theres Action mode in an RPG

Leviathan is easily the longest DLC bioware has made, around 3hrs to 4hrs, ON action mode. At least get it right

[babachewie]

Well enough to make more DLC

[Obeded the 2nd]

babachewie wrote...

Well enough to make more DLC

yep.

[Cainne Chapel]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Greatest selling Dlc....mwahaha some people really are suckers for punishment, mediocre linear and just damn right overpriced.....

youtube > Mass effect dlc

I would ask, why buy ANY game then if you can just watch them on Youtube honestly, especially if you;re going to complain about it.   If that were the case I could use Youtube as my reasoning for not liking or buying skyrim

besides i never recall any ME game NOT being linear, these aren't open world sandbox games ya know.

erm because some content is worth playing not watching? LOTSB worth buying > Any ME3 content youtube, i much prefer back in the day when Expansion packs meant something, now were paying £10 for a 2 hour action mode non rpg, but wait buy these weapons aswell......

Theres linear and then theres Action mode in an RPG

Well if you feel that way i SINCERELY hope you didnt by any DLC for ME2 or ME1 for that matter... then you'd be contradicting your point.

and yes expansion packs used to mean something, they still do, but its more profitable for companies now to release said expansions in small chunks rather than large 40-50 xpacs it would seem.

but you cant honestly sit there and say Leviathan isnt worth buying and LOTSB (or overlord, etc) is when they function nearly identicaly to each other.  Oh wait, right, since Leviathan doesnt change the endings one doesnt like then it must be bad, forgot about that little caveat.

As for action mode, then you must be against people skipping dialogue too... which I'm guilty of especially after 3 or 4  playthroughs and I know the conversations like the back of my hand.