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[Clayless]

Mastone wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

People buying something doesn't affect your life but it MIGHT in the future if a different group of people decide to take an unrelated course of actions on a future hypothetical game? Really?

And please, you're vastly misunderstanding why I point out that people are getting worked up about something that doesn't affect their life/something they hate and are spending, probably more than they spent playing the entire series, of their time complaining about 8 months later on the official forums, and I'll give you a hint, it's not because it bothers me.

Your mistaken if you think its unrelated, if you can sell half a game at full price and charge another full games worth of dlc ..and people swallow it...then I assure you companies will  jumpp that bandwagon..

FYI I played ME1 and enjoyed it, I played ME2 and enjoyed it albeit much less then ME 1..ME3 was nice up to somewhere in the middle but it never hit the elevel of polish of ME2 or the nice crafted story of ME1 ( faild on 2 fronts) and yes the ending was downright insulting

and yes it bothers you , because you would stop reacting if it didn't

So to stop a different group from doing your hypothetical future situation, it's good to show Bioware that "they have failed" for releasing: 3.4Gbs of story content, 7 MP maps, 18 new characters, 9 new weapons, 2 new objectives, 29 new gear items, 5 new weapon mods, 4 new equipment and a new difficulty, for a grand total of 800 MS points.

Whereas CoD releasing 16 maps for 4800 MS points, or Gears 3 releasing 13 maps, 17 character skins and about 30-40 weapon skins (2-4 of which you can have equipped at a time) for 7200 MS points, doesn't even get a mention from you? You don't want companies to jump on Biowares bandwagon? You don't see how anyone with "half a brain" can support Bioware because of a future hypothical situation where some other people decide to copy them? What?

And no, look how little effort it took point out how little thought you put into your posts. It doesn't bother me that people like you are still here 8 months later, if it did I wouldn't bother mining for gold like this.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 30 septembre 2012 - 05:50 .

[Isichar]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

I would say graphics are secondary to almost everything, for instance Crysis 2 looked amazing but after an hour or so I didn't care one bit.
I could probs play any game with graphics that are terrible compared to tday with little problem, assuming the're fun of course.

I feel the same way, though it is possible for graphics to be so bad it makes it hard to play the game, but usually this is because of things such as extremely poor texturing, not because of dated graphics.

Games that rely on just good graphics usually are entertaining for a short period of time, but tend to quickly get boring once you get passed looking at how pretty everything is.

Modifié par Isichar, 30 septembre 2012 - 05:53 .

[Obeded the 2nd]

Isichar wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

I would say graphics are secondary to almost everything, for instance Crysis 2 looked amazing but after an hour or so I didn't care one bit.
I could probs play any game with graphics that are terrible compared to tday with little problem, assuming the're fun of course.

I feel the same way, though it is possible for graphics to be so bad it makes it hard to play the game, but usually this is because of things such as extremely poor texturing, not because of dated graphics.

Games that rely on just good graphics usually are entertaining for a short period of time, but tend to quickly get boring once you get passed looking at how pretty everything is.

Yep how I feel.

Although I would say games like ME don't do this even though they look very pretty but a number of games do and because of this I'm happy Levi is selling well.

[Isichar]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

I would say graphics are secondary to almost everything, for instance Crysis 2 looked amazing but after an hour or so I didn't care one bit.
I could probs play any game with graphics that are terrible compared to tday with little problem, assuming the're fun of course.

I feel the same way, though it is possible for graphics to be so bad it makes it hard to play the game, but usually this is because of things such as extremely poor texturing, not because of dated graphics.

Games that rely on just good graphics usually are entertaining for a short period of time, but tend to quickly get boring once you get passed looking at how pretty everything is.

Yep how I feel.

Although I would say games like ME don't do this even though they look very pretty but a number of games do and because of this I'm happy Levi is selling well.

Yes luckily Bioware does not depend simply on good/flashy visuals as much as they arguably could if they wanted to. Unfortunately that may change over time under EA's influence, but I sincerly hope not. 

Modifié par Isichar, 30 septembre 2012 - 06:03 .

[clarkusdarkus]

AlanC9 wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
And there you have it.

It was pretty obvious post-release that Bio considered ME2 not only a success, but an improvement over ME1. Well, someone was going to have to lose there, and I'm afraid it was you. And Terrror_K, and a few other regulars.

Yeah, because losing your core fans is a smart buisness move...

Except they didn't. Their core fans are people like.... well, me.

Edit: what I mean by that is that ME1, while pretty good in itself, had some unfortunate design choices that gave people the wrong impression about what Bio does and what future games would be like. Someone who's an ME1 fan in particular was very likely to  end up disappointed by the studio.

Well smartarse there target audience isnt me it would seem so there as good as losing me who has bought all there games, so by your logic they have you.....woohooo....dont have me....booooo,hisssss....so instead of both of us buying there games they have you. 

[Obeded the 2nd]

Isichar wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

I would say graphics are secondary to almost everything, for instance Crysis 2 looked amazing but after an hour or so I didn't care one bit.
I could probs play any game with graphics that are terrible compared to tday with little problem, assuming the're fun of course.

I feel the same way, though it is possible for graphics to be so bad it makes it hard to play the game, but usually this is because of things such as extremely poor texturing, not because of dated graphics.

Games that rely on just good graphics usually are entertaining for a short period of time, but tend to quickly get boring once you get passed looking at how pretty everything is.

Yep how I feel.

Although I would say games like ME don't do this even though they look very pretty but a number of games do and because of this I'm happy Levi is selling well.

Yes luckily Bioware does not depend simply on good/flashy visuals as much as they arguably could if they wanted to. Unfortunately that may change over time under EA's influence, but I sincerly hope not. 

When I first played ME i thought BioWare would never do this, but I wouldn't be suprised if it did now.Wierd.

[clarkusdarkus]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Mastone wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

People buying something doesn't affect your life but it MIGHT in the future if a different group of people decide to take an unrelated course of actions on a future hypothetical game? Really?

And please, you're vastly misunderstanding why I point out that people are getting worked up about something that doesn't affect their life/something they hate and are spending, probably more than they spent playing the entire series, of their time complaining about 8 months later on the official forums, and I'll give you a hint, it's not because it bothers me.

Your mistaken if you think its unrelated, if you can sell half a game at full price and charge another full games worth of dlc ..and people swallow it...then I assure you companies will  jumpp that bandwagon..

FYI I played ME1 and enjoyed it, I played ME2 and enjoyed it albeit much less then ME 1..ME3 was nice up to somewhere in the middle but it never hit the elevel of polish of ME2 or the nice crafted story of ME1 ( faild on 2 fronts) and yes the ending was downright insulting

and yes it bothers you , because you would stop reacting if it didn't

So to stop a different group from doing your hypothetical future situation, it's good to show Bioware that "they have failed" for releasing: 3.4Gbs of story content, 7 MP maps, 18 new characters, 9 new weapons, 2 new objectives, 29 new gear items, 5 new weapon mods, 4 new equipment and a new difficulty, for a grand total of 800 MS points.

Whereas CoD releasing 16 maps for 4800 MS points, or Gears 3 releasing 13 maps, 17 character skins and about 30-40 weapon skins (2-4 of which you can have equipped at a time) for 7200 MS points, doesn't even get a mention from you? You don't want companies to jump on Biowares bandwagon? You don't see how anyone with "half a brain" can support Bioware because of a future hypothical situation where some other people decide to copy them? What?

And no, look how little effort it took point out how little thought you put into your posts. It doesn't bother me that people like you are still here 8 months later, if it did I wouldn't bother mining for gold like this.

Get over yourself, you come across like a snob..... Micro-transactions play a big part in ME3 MP and im sure there making money off that

[Obeded the 2nd]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
And there you have it.

It was pretty obvious post-release that Bio considered ME2 not only a success, but an improvement over ME1. Well, someone was going to have to lose there, and I'm afraid it was you. And Terrror_K, and a few other regulars.

Yeah, because losing your core fans is a smart buisness move...

Except they didn't. Their core fans are people like.... well, me.

Edit: what I mean by that is that ME1, while pretty good in itself, had some unfortunate design choices that gave people the wrong impression about what Bio does and what future games would be like. Someone who's an ME1 fan in particular was very likely to  end up disappointed by the studio.

Well smartarse there target audience isnt me it would seem so there as good as losing me who has bought all there games, so by your logic they have you.....woohooo....dont have me....booooo,hisssss....so instead of both of us buying there games they have you. 

They got more new people, BioWare hates you now.

[Obeded the 2nd]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

Mastone wrote...

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

People buying something doesn't affect your life but it MIGHT in the future if a different group of people decide to take an unrelated course of actions on a future hypothetical game? Really?

And please, you're vastly misunderstanding why I point out that people are getting worked up about something that doesn't affect their life/something they hate and are spending, probably more than they spent playing the entire series, of their time complaining about 8 months later on the official forums, and I'll give you a hint, it's not because it bothers me.

Your mistaken if you think its unrelated, if you can sell half a game at full price and charge another full games worth of dlc ..and people swallow it...then I assure you companies will  jumpp that bandwagon..

FYI I played ME1 and enjoyed it, I played ME2 and enjoyed it albeit much less then ME 1..ME3 was nice up to somewhere in the middle but it never hit the elevel of polish of ME2 or the nice crafted story of ME1 ( faild on 2 fronts) and yes the ending was downright insulting

and yes it bothers you , because you would stop reacting if it didn't

So to stop a different group from doing your hypothetical future situation, it's good to show Bioware that "they have failed" for releasing: 3.4Gbs of story content, 7 MP maps, 18 new characters, 9 new weapons, 2 new objectives, 29 new gear items, 5 new weapon mods, 4 new equipment and a new difficulty, for a grand total of 800 MS points.

Whereas CoD releasing 16 maps for 4800 MS points, or Gears 3 releasing 13 maps, 17 character skins and about 30-40 weapon skins (2-4 of which you can have equipped at a time) for 7200 MS points, doesn't even get a mention from you? You don't want companies to jump on Biowares bandwagon? You don't see how anyone with "half a brain" can support Bioware because of a future hypothical situation where some other people decide to copy them? What?

And no, look how little effort it took point out how little thought you put into your posts. It doesn't bother me that people like you are still here 8 months later, if it did I wouldn't bother mining for gold like this.

Get over yourself, you come across like a snob..... Micro-transactions play a big part in ME3 MP and im sure there making money off that

They have a point, some companies are worse than BioWare in this regard, so why not try to get them to stop?

[Isichar]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

I would say graphics are secondary to almost everything, for instance Crysis 2 looked amazing but after an hour or so I didn't care one bit.
I could probs play any game with graphics that are terrible compared to tday with little problem, assuming the're fun of course.

I feel the same way, though it is possible for graphics to be so bad it makes it hard to play the game, but usually this is because of things such as extremely poor texturing, not because of dated graphics.

Games that rely on just good graphics usually are entertaining for a short period of time, but tend to quickly get boring once you get passed looking at how pretty everything is.

Yep how I feel.

Although I would say games like ME don't do this even though they look very pretty but a number of games do and because of this I'm happy Levi is selling well.

Yes luckily Bioware does not depend simply on good/flashy visuals as much as they arguably could if they wanted to. Unfortunately that may change over time under EA's influence, but I sincerly hope not. 

When I first played ME i thought BioWare would never do this, but I wouldn't be suprised if it did now.Wierd.

Well they may have not crossed over yet, but there has been some baby steps in that general direction. Its certainly not something that EA seems to have an issue with doing.

[Siran]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Get over yourself, you come across like a snob..... Micro-transactions play a big part in ME3 MP and im sure there making money off that

So, they're not allowed to make money anymore? I'd rather have microtransactions, where you can get the same ingame items etc through playing than having to pay for each new map to even be able to  play it. ME3 MP is one of the most fair examples of microtransactions I know. The only thing you gain is time. Nothing more. It's not a pay2win model like so many other games,

[clarkusdarkus]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
And there you have it.

It was pretty obvious post-release that Bio considered ME2 not only a success, but an improvement over ME1. Well, someone was going to have to lose there, and I'm afraid it was you. And Terrror_K, and a few other regulars.

Yeah, because losing your core fans is a smart buisness move...

Except they didn't. Their core fans are people like.... well, me.

Edit: what I mean by that is that ME1, while pretty good in itself, had some unfortunate design choices that gave people the wrong impression about what Bio does and what future games would be like. Someone who's an ME1 fan in particular was very likely to  end up disappointed by the studio.

Well smartarse there target audience isnt me it would seem so there as good as losing me who has bought all there games, so by your logic they have you.....woohooo....dont have me....booooo,hisssss....so instead of both of us buying there games they have you. 

They got more new people, BioWare hates you now.

well after DA2/TOR/ME3 im glad they do as that works both ways, i'll laugh last as i could just download there games and spend my money on peanut chunky kitkats:bandit:

Modifié par clarkusdarkus, 30 septembre 2012 - 06:30 .

[Obeded the 2nd]

Isichar wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

Isichar wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

I would say graphics are secondary to almost everything, for instance Crysis 2 looked amazing but after an hour or so I didn't care one bit.
I could probs play any game with graphics that are terrible compared to tday with little problem, assuming the're fun of course.

I feel the same way, though it is possible for graphics to be so bad it makes it hard to play the game, but usually this is because of things such as extremely poor texturing, not because of dated graphics.

Games that rely on just good graphics usually are entertaining for a short period of time, but tend to quickly get boring once you get passed looking at how pretty everything is.

Yep how I feel.

Although I would say games like ME don't do this even though they look very pretty but a number of games do and because of this I'm happy Levi is selling well.

Yes luckily Bioware does not depend simply on good/flashy visuals as much as they arguably could if they wanted to. Unfortunately that may change over time under EA's influence, but I sincerly hope not. 

When I first played ME i thought BioWare would never do this, but I wouldn't be suprised if it did now.Wierd.

Well they may have not crossed over yet, but there has been some baby steps in that general direction. Its certainly not something that EA seems to have an issue with doing.

Yeah I'm just saying I wouldn't be suprised if they did.


CD projekt red better be purchased by a good company, or I'll go bonkers.

[clarkusdarkus]

Siran wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Get over yourself, you come across like a snob..... Micro-transactions play a big part in ME3 MP and im sure there making money off that

So, they're not allowed to make money anymore? I'd rather have microtransactions, where you can get the same ingame items etc through playing than having to pay for each new map to even be able to  play it. ME3 MP is one of the most fair examples of microtransactions I know. The only thing you gain is time. Nothing more. It's not a pay2win model like so many other games,

what are you going on about? at what point did i say they couldnt make money ? your implying i did........i said there making money did i not...

[Obeded the 2nd]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
And there you have it.

It was pretty obvious post-release that Bio considered ME2 not only a success, but an improvement over ME1. Well, someone was going to have to lose there, and I'm afraid it was you. And Terrror_K, and a few other regulars.

Yeah, because losing your core fans is a smart buisness move...

Except they didn't. Their core fans are people like.... well, me.

Edit: what I mean by that is that ME1, while pretty good in itself, had some unfortunate design choices that gave people the wrong impression about what Bio does and what future games would be like. Someone who's an ME1 fan in particular was very likely to  end up disappointed by the studio.

Well smartarse there target audience isnt me it would seem so there as good as losing me who has bought all there games, so by your logic they have you.....woohooo....dont have me....booooo,hisssss....so instead of both of us buying there games they have you. 

They got more new people, BioWare hates you now.

well after DA2/TOR/ME3 im glad they do as that works both ways, i'll laugh last as i could just download there games and spend my money on peanut chnky kitkats:bandit:

HAHA, good use of money right there.

But seriously, are they nice? Never tried 'em

[clarkusdarkus]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
And there you have it.

It was pretty obvious post-release that Bio considered ME2 not only a success, but an improvement over ME1. Well, someone was going to have to lose there, and I'm afraid it was you. And Terrror_K, and a few other regulars.

Yeah, because losing your core fans is a smart buisness move...

Except they didn't. Their core fans are people like.... well, me.

Edit: what I mean by that is that ME1, while pretty good in itself, had some unfortunate design choices that gave people the wrong impression about what Bio does and what future games would be like. Someone who's an ME1 fan in particular was very likely to  end up disappointed by the studio.

Well smartarse there target audience isnt me it would seem so there as good as losing me who has bought all there games, so by your logic they have you.....woohooo....dont have me....booooo,hisssss....so instead of both of us buying there games they have you. 

They got more new people, BioWare hates you now.

well after DA2/TOR/ME3 im glad they do as that works both ways, i'll laugh last as i could just download there games and spend my money on peanut chnky kitkats:bandit:

HAHA, good use of money right there.

But seriously, are they nice? Never tried 'em

if this was robocop the guy would say " id buy that for a dollar " ....Greatest chocolate ever made, all i need now is jolly ranchers to return and i can be happy again 

[Obeded the 2nd]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
And there you have it.

It was pretty obvious post-release that Bio considered ME2 not only a success, but an improvement over ME1. Well, someone was going to have to lose there, and I'm afraid it was you. And Terrror_K, and a few other regulars.

Yeah, because losing your core fans is a smart buisness move...

Except they didn't. Their core fans are people like.... well, me.

Edit: what I mean by that is that ME1, while pretty good in itself, had some unfortunate design choices that gave people the wrong impression about what Bio does and what future games would be like. Someone who's an ME1 fan in particular was very likely to  end up disappointed by the studio.

Well smartarse there target audience isnt me it would seem so there as good as losing me who has bought all there games, so by your logic they have you.....woohooo....dont have me....booooo,hisssss....so instead of both of us buying there games they have you. 

They got more new people, BioWare hates you now.

well after DA2/TOR/ME3 im glad they do as that works both ways, i'll laugh last as i could just download there games and spend my money on peanut chnky kitkats:bandit:

HAHA, good use of money right there.

But seriously, are they nice? Never tried 'em

if this was robocop the guy would say " id buy that for a dollar " ....Greatest chocolate ever made, all i need now is jolly ranchers to return and i can be happy again 

Next time I see 'em I'll buy them.
BSN reccomend.

[Siran]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Siran wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Get over yourself, you come across like a snob..... Micro-transactions play a big part in ME3 MP and im sure there making money off that

So, they're not allowed to make money anymore? I'd rather have microtransactions, where you can get the same ingame items etc through playing than having to pay for each new map to even be able to  play it. ME3 MP is one of the most fair examples of microtransactions I know. The only thing you gain is time. Nothing more. It's not a pay2win model like so many other games,

what are you going on about? at what point did i say they couldnt make money ? your implying i did........i said there making money did i not...

Then what's your argument? A whole bunch of ME3 DLCs have been free, unlike many other companies, that's a fact. You don't need to pay microtransactions to play the MP or to download the EC...

[clarkusdarkus]

Siran wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Siran wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Get over yourself, you come across like a snob..... Micro-transactions play a big part in ME3 MP and im sure there making money off that

So, they're not allowed to make money anymore? I'd rather have microtransactions, where you can get the same ingame items etc through playing than having to pay for each new map to even be able to  play it. ME3 MP is one of the most fair examples of microtransactions I know. The only thing you gain is time. Nothing more. It's not a pay2win model like so many other games,

what are you going on about? at what point did i say they couldnt make money ? your implying i did........i said there making money did i not...

Then what's your argument? A whole bunch of ME3 DLCs have been free, unlike many other companies, that's a fact. You don't need to pay microtransactions to play the MP or to download the EC...

who said there was an argument? relax chief

[ShepComing4U]

Siran wrote...


Then what's your argument? A whole bunch of ME3 DLCs have been free, unlike many other companies, that's a fact. You don't need to pay microtransactions to play the MP or to download the EC...

Multiplayer DLC was free, because the micro-transactions are for multiplayer. It doesnt have an effect on singleplayer, and the EC was made free to help ease the backlash they were recieving from their fans, Not to mention the fact they'd be torn apart if they charged for it.

[ShepComing4U]

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

no, it was with the release of ME2.

it just adds more to my realization.

im a fan of ME1, and thats where it starts and stops for me.

And there you have it.

It was pretty obvious post-release that Bio considered ME2 not only a success, but an improvement over ME1. Well, someone was going to have to lose there, and I'm afraid it was you. And Terrror_K, and a few other regulars.

Yeah, because losing your core fans is a smart buisness move...

If this was thier largest selling DLC then I'm willing to say either "core" fans are talking **** and actually but ME stuff or a lot of people still buy ME stuff.

In essence, the "core" fan doesn't matter if it is the latter.

Well, thats gonna make you enemies in the gaming world. Tossing the fans who essentially supported you, like me, since Knights of the Old Republic for new fans who'd probably never heard of Bioware before that.

Not to mention the fact that theres most likely more people like me who bought the DLC to see how it was, what direction they were going and if it affected the ending, and were disappointed. I dont know though, I guess we'll find out when the next DLC is released and we see how that does.

[matt-bassist]

it was pretty good, pity we didn't see a Leviathan roll in and attack Harbinger, thus leading to his unexplained exit from the battlefield

[Obeded the 2nd]

matt-bassist wrote...

it was pretty good, pity we didn't see a Leviathan roll in and attack Harbinger, thus leading to his unexplained exit from the battlefield

You jsut fixed part of the plot.

You should be a writer.

[Obeded the 2nd]

ShepComing4U wrote...

Obeded the 2nd wrote...

clarkusdarkus wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

no, it was with the release of ME2.

it just adds more to my realization.

im a fan of ME1, and thats where it starts and stops for me.

And there you have it.

It was pretty obvious post-release that Bio considered ME2 not only a success, but an improvement over ME1. Well, someone was going to have to lose there, and I'm afraid it was you. And Terrror_K, and a few other regulars.

Yeah, because losing your core fans is a smart buisness move...

If this was thier largest selling DLC then I'm willing to say either "core" fans are talking **** and actually but ME stuff or a lot of people still buy ME stuff.

In essence, the "core" fan doesn't matter if it is the latter.

Well, thats gonna make you enemies in the gaming world. Tossing the fans who essentially supported you, like me, since Knights of the Old Republic for new fans who'd probably never heard of Bioware before that.

Not to mention the fact that theres most likely more people like me who bought the DLC to see how it was, what direction they were going and if it affected the ending, and were disappointed. I dont know though, I guess we'll find out when the next DLC is released and we see how that does.

I'm not saying it's a good thing, BioWare are very good devolopers but thier not good enough to keep casuals and hardcore and casuals are larger in number so EA will go for them over you.