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[KevShep]

Eterna5 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

And then, the haters in denial arrived.

Agree.
Even if Chris said exactly how much Leviathan sell there would be people still saying it was a lie because "of course if they hate ME3 then everyone else hate it too"....<_<

 If alot of people are saying its a lie then maybe there is truth to that because they would not be saying it if they did  buy the DLC.

5 people saying it's a lie = Majority did not buy it?

guess you have not been around the internet that much? There is ALOT of hate for ME3.

[AlanC9]

ld1449 wrote...

Show me a VG chart that backs him up and I will pack up and leave immediately

Do DLCs show on those charts?

[KevShep]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

KevShep wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

And then, the haters in denial arrived.

Agree.
Even if Chris said exactly how much Leviathan sell there would be people still saying it was a lie because "of course if they hate ME3 then everyone else hate it too"....<_<

 If alot of people are saying its a lie then maybe there is truth to that because they would not be saying it if they did  buy the DLC.

Just because you do not believe it does not make it a lie. I have not seen anywhere near enough people to even come close to the amount you would require for your statement to be true. Not on here and not elsewhere online or away from the internet.

You mean that Bioware did not come under attack by its fans?

[ld1449]

AlanC9 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

Show me a VG chart that backs him up and I will pack up and leave immediately

Do DLCs show on those charts?

No idea truth be told. Never had a reason to look up DLC sales before:D But its the only website I know of off hand to look at sales numbers

[Eterna]

KevShep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

And then, the haters in denial arrived.

Agree.
Even if Chris said exactly how much Leviathan sell there would be people still saying it was a lie because "of course if they hate ME3 then everyone else hate it too"....<_<

 If alot of people are saying its a lie then maybe there is truth to that because they would not be saying it if they did  buy the DLC.

5 people saying it's a lie = Majority did not buy it?

guess you have not been around the internet that much? There is ALOT of hate for ME3.

We aren't talking about ME3 hate, we're talking about how well Leviathan sold. It was their best selling DLC yet.

[LazyTechGuy]

In the long run, we'll know what were the truths and what were the lies. And we'll know who said what.

In the meantime, it doesn't really matter right now. Chris could be lying or he could be telling the truth. I don't know which one. I do know that Bioware has either lied or played the semantics game at just about every turn with ME3. Given their record, you can't blame someone for being skeptical about anything Chris says.

[Maxster_]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

KevShep wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

And then, the haters in denial arrived.

Agree.
Even if Chris said exactly how much Leviathan sell there would be people still saying it was a lie because "of course if they hate ME3 then everyone else hate it too"....<_<

 If alot of people are saying its a lie then maybe there is truth to that because they would not be saying it if they did  buy the DLC.

Just because you do not believe it does not make it a lie. I have not seen anywhere near enough people to even come close to the amount you would require for your statement to be true. Not on here and not elsewhere online or away from the internet.

*Looking at SWTOR*
That kind of defence sure helped, yeah.

[Hudathan]

KevShep wrote...

I know that its not "ALL" about the consoles, but it is still the same.

Just because someone enjoys the endings doesn't mean they don't care about storytelling, your original statement is a flawed attempt to label those who disagree with you as objectively 'wrong'.

[KevShep]

Eterna5 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

And then, the haters in denial arrived.

Agree.
Even if Chris said exactly how much Leviathan sell there would be people still saying it was a lie because "of course if they hate ME3 then everyone else hate it too"....<_<

 If alot of people are saying its a lie then maybe there is truth to that because they would not be saying it if they did  buy the DLC.

5 people saying it's a lie = Majority did not buy it?

guess you have not been around the internet that much? There is ALOT of hate for ME3.

We aren't talking about ME3 hate, we're talking about how well Leviathan sold. It was their best selling DLC yet.

yes we are because it a good starting point to see how well the DLC sold. That much hate cant be good for sales if no one liked the ending in the first place.

[B.Shep]

Eterna5 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

And then, the haters in denial arrived.

Agree.
Even if Chris said exactly how much Leviathan sell there would be people still saying it was a lie because "of course if they hate ME3 then everyone else hate it too"....<_<

 If alot of people are saying its a lie then maybe there is truth to that because they would not be saying it if they did  buy the DLC.

5 people saying it's a lie = Majority did not buy it?

It's funny because this foruns have a lot of polls aksing the same things:
"Did you buy Leviathan DLC?";
"Did you like it?"
And in all of these polls the answer is the same: the marjority of people buy it and most of the people who bought liked it. And yet here are we again, with people claiming this DLC was bad and didn't sell well...


By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if someone appear and say these polls are invalids because only hundreds of people voted on them. <_<

Modifié par B.Shep, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:16 .

[KevShep]

Hudathan wrote...

KevShep wrote...

I know that its not "ALL" about the consoles, but it is still the same.

Just because someone enjoys the endings doesn't mean they don't care about storytelling, your original statement is a flawed attempt to label those who disagree with you as objectively 'wrong'.

Iam not speaking in absolutes. I did not say that my statment is 100% true. I said that there is enough evidence to really look at it that way.

[Dragoonlordz]

ld1449 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...



DA2 didn't stop adding additional content due to lack of DLC sales. 

Which is why they said at Pax east.

"We really wanted to do more DLC, even had a whole expansion pack in the works. But the fans jumped ship on DLC content"

What I recall was actually said was along the lines of...

We will try to bring some closure to Hawke's story but likely not in a playable form. Originally we had planned to do an expansion pack but had to stop to focus on what we are working on now.

Team sizes are relatively fixed. For us to continue working on the Expansion, we had to have people not working on... something else. We did have plans for an expansion pack to DA2 but, other DA opportunities came up. There were even shirts! It was called Exalted March.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:16 .

[Dragoonlordz]

KevShep wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

KevShep wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

And then, the haters in denial arrived.

Agree.
Even if Chris said exactly how much Leviathan sell there would be people still saying it was a lie because "of course if they hate ME3 then everyone else hate it too"....<_<

 If alot of people are saying its a lie then maybe there is truth to that because they would not be saying it if they did  buy the DLC.

Just because you do not believe it does not make it a lie. I have not seen anywhere near enough people to even come close to the amount you would require for your statement to be true. Not on here and not elsewhere online or away from the internet.

You mean that Bioware did not come under attack by its fans?

Does not mean they did not buy the DLC.

[KevShep]

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

And then, the haters in denial arrived.

Agree.
Even if Chris said exactly how much Leviathan sell there would be people still saying it was a lie because "of course if they hate ME3 then everyone else hate it too"....<_<

 If alot of people are saying its a lie then maybe there is truth to that because they would not be saying it if they did  buy the DLC.

5 people saying it's a lie = Majority did not buy it?

It's funny because this foruns have a lot of polls aksing the same things:
"Did you buy Leviathan DLC?";
"Did you like it?"
And in all of these polls the answer is the same: the marjority of people buy it and most of the people who bought liked it. And yet here are we again, with people claiming this DLC was bad and didn't sell well...


By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if someone appear and say these polls are invalids because only hundreds of people voted on them. <_<

Dont forget the many many people that have moved on (most people I used to see in the BSN are no longer around).  I see alot of new people now.

[LazyTechGuy]

B.Shep wrote...

It's funny because this foruns have a lot of polls aksing the same things:
"Did you buy Leviathan DLC?";
"Did you like it?"
And in all of these polls the answer is the same: the marjority of people buy it and most of the people who bought liked it. And yet here are we again, with people claiming this DLC was bad and didn't sell well...


By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if someone is appear  and say these polls are invalids because only hundreds of people voted on them. <_<

You mean a poll was conducted among users who actively and voluntarily come to this site to talk about Mass Effect?  Hmmm, wonder what they're gonna say.

That's like asking who likes the color black in a group filled with blind people.

[KevShep]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

KevShep wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

And then, the haters in denial arrived.

Agree.
Even if Chris said exactly how much Leviathan sell there would be people still saying it was a lie because "of course if they hate ME3 then everyone else hate it too"....<_<

 If alot of people are saying its a lie then maybe there is truth to that because they would not be saying it if they did  buy the DLC.

Just because you do not believe it does not make it a lie. I have not seen anywhere near enough people to even come close to the amount you would require for your statement to be true. Not on here and not elsewhere online or away from the internet.

You mean that Bioware did not come under attack by its fans?

Does not mean they did not buy the DLC.

Would you buy the DLC if your experence was bad to start with? If yes then why?

I know that most poeple are not made of money and would then spend there money on things that return the payment in enjoyment. Why buy that if its about what you hate in the first place? 

[Dragoonlordz]

KevShep wrote...

Dont forget the many many people that have moved on (most people I used to see in the BSN are no longer around).  I see alot of new people now.

You appear to be newer than me, I guess you do not love deep, enriching stories in games that make sense because your a new in comparrison. Thats the idiology your using and why your simply wrong in this regard to make that assumption in the first place.

New or old has bugger all to do with like or hate the ending, has nothing to do with whether as you put it like "meaningful games that makes sense". If you cannot see the problem with your stance on that then you have an issue.

That is the point I am trying to make you realise.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:31 .

[Dendio1]

Chris Priestly wrote...

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Seafood is always popular.

*chuckle*

It has been our largest selling DLC to date, but I'm not going into specific numbers.

Good! More dlc!

[Dragoonlordz]

KevShep wrote...

Would you buy the DLC if your experence was bad to start with? If yes then why?

I know that most poeple are not made of money and would then spend there money on things that return the payment in enjoyment. Why buy that if its about what you hate in the first place? 

I did not like DA2 but I bought all the story DLC because I thought I might enjoy it more than the core game.

I did enjoy them more than the core game. They gradually got better and better as each one was released.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:30 .

[B.Shep]

LazyTechGuy wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

It's funny because this foruns have a lot of polls aksing the same things:
"Did you buy Leviathan DLC?";
"Did you like it?"
And in all of these polls the answer is the same: the marjority of people buy it and most of the people who bought liked it. And yet here are we again, with people claiming this DLC was bad and didn't sell well...


By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if someone is appear  and say these polls are invalids because only hundreds of people voted on them. <_<

You mean a poll was conducted among users who actively and voluntarily come to this site to talk about Mass Effect?  Hmmm, wonder what they're gonna say.

That's like asking who likes the color black in a group filled with blind people.

You obviously have no idea how polls are conducted do you? Try to learn something before talking nonsense

[KevShep]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

KevShep wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

KevShep wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

And then, the haters in denial arrived.

Agree.
Even if Chris said exactly how much Leviathan sell there would be people still saying it was a lie because "of course if they hate ME3 then everyone else hate it too"....<_<

 If alot of people are saying its a lie then maybe there is truth to that because they would not be saying it if they did  buy the DLC.

5 people saying it's a lie = Majority did not buy it?

It's funny because this foruns have a lot of polls aksing the same things:
"Did you buy Leviathan DLC?";
"Did you like it?"
And in all of these polls the answer is the same: the marjority of people buy it and most of the people who bought liked it. And yet here are we again, with people claiming this DLC was bad and didn't sell well...


By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if someone appear and say these polls are invalids because only hundreds of people voted on them. <_<

Dont forget the many many people that have moved on (most people I used to see in the BSN are no longer around).  I see alot of new people now.

You appear to be newer than me, I guess you do not love deep, enriching stories in games that make sense because your a new in comparrison. Thats the idiology your using and why your simple wrong in this regard to make that assumption in the first place.

New or old has bugger all to do with like or hate the ending, has nothing to do with whether as you put it like "meaningful games that makes sense". If you cannot see the problem with your stance on that then you have an issue.

 
You missed that completely...

Iam saying that alot of newer people would be more inclined to like the ending because poeple that hate it will not be on here unless there passionate. Most people that ive seen before are gone so it would effect the like or dislike of the endings but because there are passionate dislikers still here it makes it hard to tell. 

Ive been a fan since Mass Effect Revelation, I joined late because I wanted to share my theory on the reapers called "Cool Reaper Theory".

[CronoDragoon]

LazyTechGuy wrote...

B.Shep wrote...

It's funny because this foruns have a lot of polls aksing the same things:
"Did you buy Leviathan DLC?";
"Did you like it?"
And in all of these polls the answer is the same: the marjority of people buy it and most of the people who bought liked it. And yet here are we again, with people claiming this DLC was bad and didn't sell well...


By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if someone is appear  and say these polls are invalids because only hundreds of people voted on them. <_<

You mean a poll was conducted among users who actively and voluntarily come to this site to complain about Mass Effect?  Hmmm, wonder what they're gonna say.

That's like asking who likes the color black in a group filled with blind people.

Fixed. (Includes me after the OE)

[KevShep]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Would you buy the DLC if your experence was bad to start with? If yes then why?

I know that most poeple are not made of money and would then spend there money on things that return the payment in enjoyment. Why buy that if its about what you hate in the first place? 

I did not like DA2 but I bought all the story DLC because I thought I might enjoy it more than the core game.

I did enjoy them more than the core game. They gradually got better and better as each one was released.

I guess you have money to spend.

Iam passionate enough that if a game dev gets lazy or betrays its fans then I will not buy anything from them again.

Thats why IAM still here as well as other ME3 haters.

Modifié par KevShep, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:38 .

[Dendio1]

It makes sense. ME3 multiplayer has kept interest in the game. ME2 after the campaign you basically forgot about it until you heard dlc as coming.

[CronoDragoon]

KevShep wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

KevShep wrote...

Would you buy the DLC if your experence was bad to start with? If yes then why?

I know that most poeple are not made of money and would then spend there money on things that return the payment in enjoyment. Why buy that if its about what you hate in the first place? 

I did not like DA2 but I bought all the story DLC because I thought I might enjoy it more than the core game.

I did enjoy them more than the core game. They gradually got better and better as each one was released.

I guess you have money to spend.

Iam passionate enough that if a game dev gets lazy or betrays its fans then I will not buy anything from them again.

Thats why IAM still here as well as other ME3 haters.

Anyone with videogames has money to spend, dude. Not going to address the rest of the grandstanding.