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[Emzamination]

Why must you always be so direct in your post? Vulgarity will get you nothing but Ire from Devs.

[joshko]

I don't think controversial is the word you mean to use.

[marshalleck]

Paragon endings for everyone.

[Plaintiff]

And how are they supposed to know if an ending will be controversial or not?

[Lithuasil]

If Bioware implemented a mechanic to pet baby kittens, there'd be people around here who'd very vocally proclaim their outrage and how cancelled their pre-order is.

Also, there's more good kinds of controversy then there's bad kinds.

[marshalleck]

Plaintiff wrote...

And how are they supposed to know if an ending will be controversial or not?

Focus groups, design-by-committee. Can't possibly go wrong.

Modifié par marshalleck, 29 septembre 2012 - 04:32 .

[Plaintiff]

Lithuasil wrote...

If Bioware implemented a mechanic to pet baby kittens, there'd be people around here who'd very vocally proclaim their outrage and how cancelled their pre-order is.

Also, there's more good kinds of controversy then there's bad kinds.

Kittens? Where's my Mabari breeding mini-game?!

Also, this bag of gold they gave me is too heavy!

[Plaintiff]

marshalleck wrote...

Paragon endings for everyone.

[joshko]

Lithuasil wrote...

If Bioware implemented a mechanic to pet baby kittens, there'd be people around here who'd very vocally proclaim their outrage and how cancelled their pre-order is.

Also, there's more good kinds of controversy then there's bad kinds.

This, controversy is good. Space children are bad.
Controversy can force you to confront a position you oppose thus forcing you to question your own beliefs and possibly, open your mind and make you realize you don't know every thing about every thing and that your'e not always right (which is why many people flip out when they run into "controversy").

What you're talking about are things like Space Children, which is...well I wont get into it.

[Lithuasil]

joshko wrote...

What you're talking about are things like Space Children, which is...well I wont get into it.

Here's the thing though - there's no actual controversy regarding the Space Child. (There's just a few people going against the general consensus of "oh god why" for reasons that aren't my place to question).

And with something like DA2 - the game improved on Origins in many ways - (and didn't in some others). There's controversy there, and avoiding that controversy would have made DA2 a significantly worse game.

[Shinobu]

Just remember that the destination IS as important as the journey.

[Iakus]

Shinobu wrote...

Just remember that the destination IS as important as the journey.

Indeed.

And multiple endings should mean multiple destinations.

[Killer3000ad]

Well since Casey Hudson and Mac Walters aren't involved in the DA franchise, I have hope in Gaider to not poop out an ending on the scale of craptasticness that ME3 had. TO be honest I didn't hate DA2's story. It simply had some bad execution with the time skips betweem chapters and the way your actions didn't affect the ending much. DA2's problems lay elsewhere rather than the story.

[RogueWriter3201]

If I'm not mistaken, both Mr. Laidlaw and Mr. Gaider have expressed that, while they do enjoy some dramatic gravitas to their endings, they do understand that, especially in Fantasy, and in an RPG, you have to at least have the *option* for a "Happy" ending. Both DAO and DAII allowed for endings that, while layered by sacrifice, still had the Hero saving the day and walking away with their respective companions, love interests, and so forth. I don't believe there will be any difference in DA3 except for, perhaps, a more fleshed out ending thanks to longer development time then was allotted for DA2.

Also, keep in mind that almost everyone working on the DA Team, most importantly the lead writer, have been in place from the start. Gaider wasn't removed half-way through the production of DA2, replaced by a new lead writer who took everything previously done plot wise and tossed it out the window in favor of his own "artistic vision" as was done with Drew Karpyshyn for ME2 -> ME3. So while DA3 might have some "controversy" with things like same sex relationships again or how the game is advertised and so forth, I don't think they'll make the same mistake.

Given the fallout I would wager neither BioWare nor it's supporting Publisher are anxious to make the same choices made for ME3. Also, simply put, I have more faith in Mark Darrah, Mike Laidlaw, and David Gaider and their team then I do/did in ME3's.

[fchopin]

You made a mistake op, DA2 did not have an ending so you should not be asking for no controversial ending but an actual ending for DA3.

[Biotic Sage]

Yes good, let's make all of our art and entertainment bland like a Fereldan stew. That way it satisfies everyone and wows no one. As true artists always say, "Let's play it safe here!"