you do know that a lot of shows in Sci-Fi has something like that in it. I mean i can't count how many times the Borg could of just crushed the Enterprise and ended the show. You act like Mass Effect is treading new groundMaxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
The Reason Harbinger didn't shoot down the Normandy during the beam run.
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#226
Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 10:42
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Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 10:44
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AresKeith wrote...
Twinzam.V wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
Why is it always bad writing every where I go. From this thread to the next, people say bad writing, Lazy Bioware. I mean come on you want to know why Harbinger didn't shoot down the Normandy.
It's because Harbinger didn't want to kill Shepard at all. He want's Shepard, and Harbinger knows if He shoots down the Normandy Shepard/ the player would kill the Reapers with out a thought.
Now here is the part were you call me an ITer, well I am. So shoot me if you wish, but that's my two cents.
When a powerfull enemy with you at gunpoint doesnt squeeze the trigger is kinda odd... But then again he could be out of ammo.
Grunt would like a word with you
Harbinger could have headbutted the Normandy if he was out of beams.
#228
Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 10:45
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The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.Maxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
#229
Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 10:45
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Sure why even bother writing something realistic and believable? It much easier to asspull some crap to "appeal to the masses".babachewie wrote...
There really isn't any holes. Again there are a number of reasons why it might of not been destroyed. It doesnt really matter though. It wasnt destroyed. If that bothers you, than I dont know what to tell you. close your eyes I guess during the scene and head canon somethign better and open them after its over
That's why someone like D.Weber or Sapkowskij or G. Martin is a failed authors, unlike M. Walters and C. Hudson.
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Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 10:48
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Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".tvman099 wrote...
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.Maxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
#231
Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 10:53
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Sion1138 wrote...
When it's blatantly obvious that a writer didn't think things through in the least, you should go and try to rationalize their mistakes yourself.
Right? Is that what we're doing here?
Indeed.
people are trying to find a reason that isn't there. There never was a reason, not an in-game reason at least, for Harby to not destroy the Normandy.
Bioware made a misstake, it happens. But you'll never find a in-game reason for that. So stop looking for one, or trying to make up your own reason.
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Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 10:53
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Now you're just making up things cause you're madMaxster_ wrote...
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".tvman099 wrote...
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.Maxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
Modifié par babachewie, 30 septembre 2012 - 10:54 .
#233
Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 10:54
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Yeah, Picard always acts like a complete retard.babachewie wrote...
you do know that a lot of shows in Sci-Fi has something like that in it. I mean i can't count how many times the Borg could of just crushed the Enterprise and ended the show. You act like Mass Effect is treading new groundMaxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
Also Star trek is known for some such fails, not on the level of ME3 of course.
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Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 10:57
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Can't tell if serious or dumbMaxster_ wrote...
Yeah, Picard always acts like a complete retard.babachewie wrote...
you do know that a lot of shows in Sci-Fi has something like that in it. I mean i can't count how many times the Borg could of just crushed the Enterprise and ended the show. You act like Mass Effect is treading new groundMaxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
Also Star trek is known for some such fails, not on the level of ME3 of course.
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Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 10:58
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It's made obvious that harbinger is flying away. Perhaps there's a bigger threat, that's not shown, and is to be revealed later.
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Maxster_ wrote...
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".tvman099 wrote...
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.Maxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
Another popular argument to blurp out is "because I'm a true fan" (whatever that means)
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Omega2079 wrote...
It's made obvious that harbinger is flying away. Perhaps there's a bigger threat, that's not shown, and is to be revealed later.
the Transformers?
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Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 11:01
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Have you ever read your own posts?babachewie wrote...
Now you're just making up things cause you're madMaxster_ wrote...
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".tvman099 wrote...
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.Maxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt
destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for
when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his
whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero
escapes and saves the day. I wouldnt over think it. It's just
entertainment.
There really isn't any holes. Again there are a number of reasons why it
might of not been destroyed. It doesnt really matter though. It wasnt
destroyed. If that bothers you, than I dont know what to tell you. close
your eyes I guess during the scene and head canon somethign better and
open them after its over
You're saying that heroic moments and melodrama more important than internal consitency, logic and believability. and that that internal constency and logic completely unnecessary, so their abscence should not bother anyone.
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Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 11:02
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AresKeith wrote...
Omega2079 wrote...
It's made obvious that harbinger is flying away. Perhaps there's a bigger threat, that's not shown, and is to be revealed later.
the Transformers?
Lol, I don't know. Leviathans, maybe.
Na, he's flying off to pick up his copy of Borderlands 2.
Modifié par Omega2079, 30 septembre 2012 - 11:05 .
#240
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Eh?anorling wrote...
Maxster_ wrote...
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".tvman099 wrote...
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.Maxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
Another popular argument to blurp out is "because I'm a true fan" (whatever that means)
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I know what I said. i didnt say if it was totally far fetched and bogus that you should just go with it. In those movies where the villain is telling his plan, say for instance a James Bond villain, a dinosaur is not gonna come out of nowhere and save the day. Bond will escape. In real life that probably wont happen, but we believe it because Bond villians are nortoriously arrogant and egotistical. By the way Harbinger is one arrogant and egotistical villian as well. It is just entertainment. It shouldnt bother anyone cause you can see why it happened and totally believe they got away for a lot of different reasons.Maxster_ wrote...
Have you ever read what your own posts?babachewie wrote...
Now you're just making up things cause you're madMaxster_ wrote...
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".tvman099 wrote...
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.Maxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt
destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for
when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his
whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero
escapes and saves the day. I wouldnt over think it. It's just
entertainment.
There really isn't any holes. Again there are a number of reasons why it
might of not been destroyed. It doesnt really matter though. It wasnt
destroyed. If that bothers you, than I dont know what to tell you. close
your eyes I guess during the scene and head canon somethign better and
open them after its over
You're saying that heroic moments and melodrama more important than internal consitency, logic and believability. and that that internal constency and logic completely unnecessary, so their abscence should not bother anyone.
Modifié par babachewie, 30 septembre 2012 - 11:17 .
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Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 11:20
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Maxster_ wrote...
Eh?anorling wrote...
Maxster_ wrote...
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".tvman099 wrote...
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.Maxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
Another popular argument to blurp out is "because I'm a true[/b] fan" (whatever that means)
Sorry if I was unclear. But what I meant was that some people like to argue that if you are a "true fan" then you'll love all the inconsistencies, plot holes and weird logic. And you'll not only bend over and take it. You'll bend over and take it, with a smile! If you don't then you're not a "true fan".
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Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 11:21
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There are people who defend this and other things in the game because they're "real fans" of Bioware, whatever that's supposed to mean. They came out of the woodwork back when the game first released and the (well deserved) avalanche of fan outcry against the endings happened and defended Bioware and their artistic integrity because they were "true fans" as if that's supposed to be some sort of argument.Maxster_ wrote...
Eh?anorling wrote...
Maxster_ wrote...
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".tvman099 wrote...
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.Maxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
Another popular argument to blurp out is "because I'm a true fan" (whatever that means)
What we've got here is a case of simple unwillingness to activate one's brain rather than blind loyalty though.
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I like how you deciding what should entertain people for everyone. That totalitarian attitudebabachewie wrote...
I know what I said. i didnt say if it was totally far fetched and bogus that you should just go with it. In those movies where the villain is telling his plan, say for instance a James Bond villain, a dinosaur is not gonna come out of nowhere and save the day. Bond will escape. In real life that probably wont happen, but we believe it because Bond villians are nortoriously arrogant egotistical. By the way Harbinger is one arrogant and egotistical villian as well. It is just entertainment. It shouldnt bother anyone cause you can see why it happened and totally believe they got away for a lot of different reasons.Maxster_ wrote...
Have you ever read what your own posts?babachewie wrote...
Now you're just making up things cause you're madMaxster_ wrote...
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".tvman099 wrote...
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.Maxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt
destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for
when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his
whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero
escapes and saves the day. I wouldnt over think it. It's just
entertainment.
There really isn't any holes. Again there are a number of reasons why it
might of not been destroyed. It doesnt really matter though. It wasnt
destroyed. If that bothers you, than I dont know what to tell you. close
your eyes I guess during the scene and head canon somethign better and
open them after its over
You're saying that heroic moments and melodrama more important than internal consitency, logic and believability. and that that internal constency and logic completely unnecessary, so their abscence should not bother anyone.
Also bringing as example some bond movies, surely tells, that you have no idea what sci-fi is, and what good literature is.
As I said, you are truly new target audience for EAWare, and i'm no longer part of their target audience.
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Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 11:27
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Ah yes, "true fans". Those people who eat everything they served, especially in sci-fi, without any doubts or questions? We have dismissed that claim.anorling wrote...
Sorry if I was unclear. But what I meant was that some people like to argue that if you are a "true fan" then you'll love all the inconsistencies, plot holes and weird logic. And you'll not only bend over and take it. You'll bend over and take it, with a smile! If you don't then you're not a "true fan".
Thanks for clarification.tvman099 wrote...
There are people who defend this and
other things in the game because they're "real fans" of Bioware,
whatever that's supposed to mean. They came out of the woodwork back
when the game first released and the (well deserved) avalanche of fan
outcry against the endings happened and defended Bioware and their
artistic integrity because they were "true fans" as if that's supposed
to be some sort of argument.
What we've got here is a case of simple unwillingness to activate one's brain rather than blind loyalty though.
Never understood that kind of "loyality". If writing is crap it is crap, loyality have nothing to do with it. Why should i support some sci-fi(or fantasy, or other genre) author, if he(she) suddenly started to write nonsensical incosistent crap?
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I didn't say what should entertain people. Also I didnt say Bond was Sci-Fi. Now you're just liar and thats the 2nd time you've made up things. I'm not gonna discusse anything further with liars. Plus you crapped all over Star Trek earlier. I can't even take you seriously anymore.Maxster_ wrote...
I like how you deciding what should entertain people for everyone. That totalitarian attitudebabachewie wrote...
I know what I said. i didnt say if it was totally far fetched and bogus that you should just go with it. In those movies where the villain is telling his plan, say for instance a James Bond villain, a dinosaur is not gonna come out of nowhere and save the day. Bond will escape. In real life that probably wont happen, but we believe it because Bond villians are nortoriously arrogant egotistical. By the way Harbinger is one arrogant and egotistical villian as well. It is just entertainment. It shouldnt bother anyone cause you can see why it happened and totally believe they got away for a lot of different reasons.Maxster_ wrote...
Have you ever read what your own posts?babachewie wrote...
Now you're just making up things cause you're madMaxster_ wrote...
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".tvman099 wrote...
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.Maxster_ wrote...
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or notbabachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt
destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for
when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his
whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero
escapes and saves the day. I wouldnt over think it. It's just
entertainment.
There really isn't any holes. Again there are a number of reasons why it
might of not been destroyed. It doesnt really matter though. It wasnt
destroyed. If that bothers you, than I dont know what to tell you. close
your eyes I guess during the scene and head canon somethign better and
open them after its over
You're saying that heroic moments and melodrama more important than internal consitency, logic and believability. and that that internal constency and logic completely unnecessary, so their abscence should not bother anyone.
Also bringing as example some bond movies, surely tells, that you have no idea what sci-fi is, and what good literature is.
As I said, you are truly new target audience for EAWare, and i'm no longer part of their target audience.
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Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 11:38
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[quote]babachewie wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]tvman099 wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
[/quote]
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or not[/quote]
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.
[/quote]
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".
[/quote] Now you're just making up things cause you're mad
[/quote]
Have you ever read what your own posts?
It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt
destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for
when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his
whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero
escapes and saves the day. I wouldnt over think it. It's just
entertainment.
There really isn't any holes. Again there are a number of reasons why it
might of not been destroyed. It doesnt really matter though. It wasnt
destroyed. If that bothers you, than I dont know what to tell you. close
your eyes I guess during the scene and head canon somethign better and
open them after its over
You're saying that heroic moments and melodrama more important than internal consitency, logic and believability. and that that internal constency and logic completely unnecessary, so their abscence should not bother anyone.
[/quote] I know what I said. i didnt say if it was totally far fetched and bogus that you should just go with it. In those movies where the villain is telling his plan, say for instance a James Bond villain, a dinosaur is not gonna come out of nowhere and save the day. Bond will escape. In real life that probably wont happen, but we believe it because Bond villians are nortoriously arrogant egotistical. By the way Harbinger is one arrogant and egotistical villian as well. It is just entertainment. It shouldnt bother anyone cause you can see why it happened and totally believe they got away for a lot of different reasons.
[/quote]
I like how you deciding what should entertain people for everyone. That totalitarian attitude
Also bringing as example some bond movies, surely tells, that you have no idea what sci-fi is, and what good literature is.
As I said, you are truly new target audience for EAWare, and i'm no longer part of their target audience.
[/quote]I didn't say what should entertain people. Also I didnt say Bond was Sci-Fi. Now you're just liar and thats the 2nd time you've made up things. I'm not gonna discusse anything further with liars. Plus you crapped all over Star Trek earlier. I can't even take you seriously anymore.
[/quote]
[quote]I didn't say what should entertain people.[/quote]
Yeah, sure. Like that quote
It is just entertainment. It shouldnt bother anyone cause you can see
why it happened and totally believe they got away for a lot of different
reasons.
You said that internal inconsitence and absence of logic shouldn't bother anyone because that's just entertainment.
Who are you, exactly, to define entertainment for everyone, eh?
I guess you just don't understand what are you posting at all.
Plain lies won't work with me.
[quote]Also I didnt say Bond was Sci-Fi.[/quote]
I never said you did. I said that bringing as example Bond series is completely irrelevant to the topic of internal consitence, good writing and sci-fi.
[quote]Now you're just liar and thats the 2nd time you've made up things. I'm not gonna discusse anything further with liars. [/quote]
Nah, you just don't understand what are you saying. That happens for some people.
[quote]Plus you crapped all over Star Trek earlier. [/quote]
Learn the definition of "sarcasm". Or you just don't get it, without smiles? That tells something.
[quote]I can't even take you seriously anymore. [/quote]
Should i care? I never took you seriously from the start.
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]tvman099 wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
[/quote]
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or not
[/quote]The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.
[/quote]
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".
[/quote] Now you're just making up things cause you're mad
[/quote]
Have you ever read what your own posts?
It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt
destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for
when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his
whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero
escapes and saves the day. I wouldnt over think it. It's just
entertainment.
There really isn't any holes. Again there are a number of reasons why it
might of not been destroyed. It doesnt really matter though. It wasnt
destroyed. If that bothers you, than I dont know what to tell you. close
your eyes I guess during the scene and head canon somethign better and
open them after its over
You're saying that heroic moments and melodrama more important than internal consitency, logic and believability. and that that internal constency and logic completely unnecessary, so their abscence should not bother anyone.
[/quote] I know what I said. i didnt say if it was totally far fetched and bogus that you should just go with it. In those movies where the villain is telling his plan, say for instance a James Bond villain, a dinosaur is not gonna come out of nowhere and save the day. Bond will escape. In real life that probably wont happen, but we believe it because Bond villians are nortoriously arrogant egotistical. By the way Harbinger is one arrogant and egotistical villian as well. It is just entertainment. It shouldnt bother anyone cause you can see why it happened and totally believe they got away for a lot of different reasons.
[/quote]
I like how you deciding what should entertain people for everyone. That totalitarian attitude
Also bringing as example some bond movies, surely tells, that you have no idea what sci-fi is, and what good literature is.
As I said, you are truly new target audience for EAWare, and i'm no longer part of their target audience.
[/quote]I didn't say what should entertain people. Also I didnt say Bond was Sci-Fi. Now you're just liar and thats the 2nd time you've made up things. I'm not gonna discusse anything further with liars. Plus you crapped all over Star Trek earlier. I can't even take you seriously anymore.
[/quote]
[quote]I didn't say what should entertain people.[/quote]
Yeah, sure. Like that quote
It is just entertainment. It shouldnt bother anyone cause you can see
why it happened and totally believe they got away for a lot of different
reasons.
You said that internal inconsitence and absence of logic shouldn't bother anyone because that's just entertainment.
Who are you, exactly, to define entertainment for everyone, eh?
I guess you just don't understand what are you posting at all.
Plain lies won't work with me.
[quote]Also I didnt say Bond was Sci-Fi.[/quote]
I never said you did. I said that bringing as example Bond series is completely irrelevant to the topic of internal consitence, good writing and sci-fi.
[quote]Now you're just liar and thats the 2nd time you've made up things. I'm not gonna discusse anything further with liars. [/quote]
Nah, you just don't understand what are you saying. That happens for some people.
[quote]Plus you crapped all over Star Trek earlier. [/quote]
Learn the definition of "sarcasm". Or you just don't get it, without smiles? That tells something.
[quote]I can't even take you seriously anymore. [/quote]
Should i care? I never took you seriously from the start.
#248
Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 11:40
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[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]tvman099 wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
[/quote]
Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or not[/quote]
The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.
[/quote]
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".
[/quote] Now you're just making up things cause you're mad
[/quote]
Have you ever read what your own posts?
It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt
destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for
when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his
whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero
escapes and saves the day. I wouldnt over think it. It's just
entertainment.
There really isn't any holes. Again there are a number of reasons why it
might of not been destroyed. It doesnt really matter though. It wasnt
destroyed. If that bothers you, than I dont know what to tell you. close
your eyes I guess during the scene and head canon somethign better and
open them after its over
You're saying that heroic moments and melodrama more important than internal consitency, logic and believability. and that that internal constency and logic completely unnecessary, so their abscence should not bother anyone.
[/quote] I know what I said. i didnt say if it was totally far fetched and bogus that you should just go with it. In those movies where the villain is telling his plan, say for instance a James Bond villain, a dinosaur is not gonna come out of nowhere and save the day. Bond will escape. In real life that probably wont happen, but we believe it because Bond villians are nortoriously arrogant egotistical. By the way Harbinger is one arrogant and egotistical villian as well. It is just entertainment. It shouldnt bother anyone cause you can see why it happened and totally believe they got away for a lot of different reasons.
[/quote]
I like how you deciding what should entertain people for everyone. That totalitarian attitude
Also bringing as example some bond movies, surely tells, that you have no idea what sci-fi is, and what good literature is.
As I said, you are truly new target audience for EAWare, and i'm no longer part of their target audience.
[/quote]I didn't say what should entertain people. Also I didnt say Bond was Sci-Fi. Now you're just liar and thats the 2nd time you've made up things. I'm not gonna discusse anything further with liars. Plus you crapped all over Star Trek earlier. I can't even take you seriously anymore.
[/quote]
[quote]I didn't say what should entertain people.[/quote]
Yeah, sure. Like that quote
It is just entertainment. It shouldnt bother anyone cause you can see
why it happened and totally believe they got away for a lot of different
reasons.
You said that internal inconsitence and absence of logic shouldn't bother anyone because that's just entertainment.
Who are you, exactly, to define entertainment for everyone, eh?
I guess you just don't understand what are you posting at all.
Plain lies won't work with me.
[quote]Also I didnt say Bond was Sci-Fi.[/quote]
I never said you did. I said that bringing as example Bond series is completely irrelevant to the topic of internal consitence, good writing and sci-fi.
[quote]Now you're just liar and thats the 2nd time you've made up things. I'm not gonna discusse anything further with liars. [/quote]
Nah, you just don't understand what are you saying. That happens for some people.
[quote]Plus you crapped all over Star Trek earlier. [/quote]
Learn the definition of "sarcasm". Or you just don't get it, without smiles? That tells something.
[quote]I can't even take you seriously anymore. [/quote]
Should i care? I never took you seriously from the start.
[/quote]Whatever you say liar.
[quote]babachewie wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]tvman099 wrote...
[quote]Maxster_ wrote...
[quote]babachewie wrote...
i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about.
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Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or not
[/quote]The need for logical and internally consistent writing isn't exclusive to sci-fi. It's a general expectation of any written work if it wants to be taken seriously.
[/quote]
Yeah. As you can see, our test subject believes that believable, logical, internally consistent writing is unnecessary and wrong, "because it is entertainment".
[/quote] Now you're just making up things cause you're mad
[/quote]
Have you ever read what your own posts?
It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt
destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for
when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his
whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero
escapes and saves the day. I wouldnt over think it. It's just
entertainment.
There really isn't any holes. Again there are a number of reasons why it
might of not been destroyed. It doesnt really matter though. It wasnt
destroyed. If that bothers you, than I dont know what to tell you. close
your eyes I guess during the scene and head canon somethign better and
open them after its over
You're saying that heroic moments and melodrama more important than internal consitency, logic and believability. and that that internal constency and logic completely unnecessary, so their abscence should not bother anyone.
[/quote] I know what I said. i didnt say if it was totally far fetched and bogus that you should just go with it. In those movies where the villain is telling his plan, say for instance a James Bond villain, a dinosaur is not gonna come out of nowhere and save the day. Bond will escape. In real life that probably wont happen, but we believe it because Bond villians are nortoriously arrogant egotistical. By the way Harbinger is one arrogant and egotistical villian as well. It is just entertainment. It shouldnt bother anyone cause you can see why it happened and totally believe they got away for a lot of different reasons.
[/quote]
I like how you deciding what should entertain people for everyone. That totalitarian attitude
Also bringing as example some bond movies, surely tells, that you have no idea what sci-fi is, and what good literature is.
As I said, you are truly new target audience for EAWare, and i'm no longer part of their target audience.
[/quote]I didn't say what should entertain people. Also I didnt say Bond was Sci-Fi. Now you're just liar and thats the 2nd time you've made up things. I'm not gonna discusse anything further with liars. Plus you crapped all over Star Trek earlier. I can't even take you seriously anymore.
[/quote]
[quote]I didn't say what should entertain people.[/quote]
Yeah, sure. Like that quote
It is just entertainment. It shouldnt bother anyone cause you can see
why it happened and totally believe they got away for a lot of different
reasons.
You said that internal inconsitence and absence of logic shouldn't bother anyone because that's just entertainment.
Who are you, exactly, to define entertainment for everyone, eh?
I guess you just don't understand what are you posting at all.
Plain lies won't work with me.
[quote]Also I didnt say Bond was Sci-Fi.[/quote]
I never said you did. I said that bringing as example Bond series is completely irrelevant to the topic of internal consitence, good writing and sci-fi.
[quote]Now you're just liar and thats the 2nd time you've made up things. I'm not gonna discusse anything further with liars. [/quote]
Nah, you just don't understand what are you saying. That happens for some people.
[quote]Plus you crapped all over Star Trek earlier. [/quote]
Learn the definition of "sarcasm". Or you just don't get it, without smiles? That tells something.
[quote]I can't even take you seriously anymore. [/quote]
Should i care? I never took you seriously from the start.
[/quote]Whatever you say liar.
#249
Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 11:41
Maxster_
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Yeah, sure. Return when you start to comprehend your own posts.
#250
Posté 30 septembre 2012 - 11:53
MacNasty
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Didn't EDI say something about the IFF that it wouldn't work completely? And about the heat emissions, how could they protect them from a Reaper if even the Collector ship could stop the SR-1.
