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#201
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Maybe the catalyst told Harbinger to focus on Shepard, and completely ignore the Normnady? who knows...

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tvman099 wrote...

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As for the stealth, it's only the prevention of blackbody emissions. Normandy can't stay stealthy indefinitely, since the heat generated must be discharged eventually. Also, consider the extraction of Primarch Victus from Menae. The engines are clearly running, so the stealth argument goes out the window.

The Normandy's stealth won't work in the atmosphere due to heat generated from friction. Take, for example, Mars. Despite Reaper signatures all around, none attacked the Normandy.

The Normandy's stealth system doesn't work against Reapers anyway. At the beginning of ME2 the Normandy was detected and destroyed by the Collectors while in stealth mode.

Of course, because Normandy stealth is hiding mostly heat emissions, and of course never works in range of a ladar, radar and visual. Only at a long range.
And cutscene clearly shows that they were in visual range.

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babachewie wrote...

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Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Maybe because Mass Effect 1 was a sci-fi?

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Maxster_ wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Maybe because Mass Effect 1 was a sci-fi?

So what.

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babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Nobody should care that Shepard called down the Normandy (that conveniently happened to be 10 seconds away) into the middle of a hail of laser fire from the Reaper that spent the entire last game gunning for them to sit there for a good minute in order to pick up two of his injured crew but no one else and exchange some heartfelt goodbyes and then sail off unnoticed and unscathed?

If no part of that bothers you, I don't even know what to say.

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babachewie wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Maybe because Mass Effect 1 was a sci-fi?

So what.

So that retarded scene bothers people that likes sci-fi.

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tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Nobody should care that Shepard called down the Normandy (that conveniently happened to be 10 seconds away) into the middle of a hail of laser fire from the Reaper that spent the entire last game gunning for them to sit there for a good minute in order to pick up two of his injured crew but no one else and exchange some heartfelt goodbyes and then sail off unnoticed and unscathed?

If no part of that bothers you, I don't even know what to say.

It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero escapes and saves the day.  I wouldnt over think it. It's just entertainment. 

Modifié par babachewie, 30 septembre 2012 - 10:22 .


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I think Harbinger didn't shoot the Normandy because that scene is in Shepard´s mind, Shepard is already dreaming there.

- Shepard pauses the mission, when the order is to run non stop.
- The retcon in the DLC run to the beam was brutal, this gives the scene a weak credibility.

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Maxster_ wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Maybe because Mass Effect 1 was a sci-fi?

So what.

So that retarded scene bothers people that likes sci-fi.

That doesnt really make sense. 

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babachewie wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Nobody should care that Shepard called down the Normandy (that conveniently happened to be 10 seconds away) into the middle of a hail of laser fire from the Reaper that spent the entire last game gunning for them to sit there for a good minute in order to pick up two of his injured crew but no one else and exchange some heartfelt goodbyes and then sail off unnoticed and unscathed?

If no part of that bothers you, I don't even know what to say.

It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero escapes and saves the day.  I wouldnt over think it. It's just entertainment. 

There's overthinking and then there's thinking at all. Anyone who does the latter should be bothered by it.

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babachewie wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Nobody should care that Shepard called down the Normandy (that conveniently happened to be 10 seconds away) into the middle of a hail of laser fire from the Reaper that spent the entire last game gunning for them to sit there for a good minute in order to pick up two of his injured crew but no one else and exchange some heartfelt goodbyes and then sail off unnoticed and unscathed?

If no part of that bothers you, I don't even know what to say.

It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero escapes and saves the day.  I wouldnt over think it. It's just entertainment. 

You'd be surprised, people like different kinds of entertainment.
Yes, yes, i got that i'm no longer target audience of EAWare; so they are not target audience of my money.

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tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Nobody should care that Shepard called down the Normandy (that conveniently happened to be 10 seconds away) into the middle of a hail of laser fire from the Reaper that spent the entire last game gunning for them to sit there for a good minute in order to pick up two of his injured crew but no one else and exchange some heartfelt goodbyes and then sail off unnoticed and unscathed?

If no part of that bothers you, I don't even know what to say.

It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero escapes and saves the day.  I wouldnt over think it. It's just entertainment. 

There's overthinking and then there's thinking at all. Anyone who does the latter should be bothered by it.

It's clearly new target audience. :D

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Maxster_ wrote...

babachewie wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Nobody should care that Shepard called down the Normandy (that conveniently happened to be 10 seconds away) into the middle of a hail of laser fire from the Reaper that spent the entire last game gunning for them to sit there for a good minute in order to pick up two of his injured crew but no one else and exchange some heartfelt goodbyes and then sail off unnoticed and unscathed?

If no part of that bothers you, I don't even know what to say.

It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero escapes and saves the day.  I wouldnt over think it. It's just entertainment. 

You'd be surprised, people like different kinds of entertainment.
Yes, yes, i got that i'm no longer target audience of EAWare; so they are not target audience of my money.

Thats a shame. i'm sure they'll get over it

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babachewie wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

babachewie wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Nobody should care that Shepard called down the Normandy (that conveniently happened to be 10 seconds away) into the middle of a hail of laser fire from the Reaper that spent the entire last game gunning for them to sit there for a good minute in order to pick up two of his injured crew but no one else and exchange some heartfelt goodbyes and then sail off unnoticed and unscathed?

If no part of that bothers you, I don't even know what to say.

It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero escapes and saves the day.  I wouldnt over think it. It's just entertainment. 

You'd be surprised, people like different kinds of entertainment.
Yes, yes, i got that i'm no longer target audience of EAWare; so they are not target audience of my money.

Thats a shame. i'm sure they'll get over it

Should i care?

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tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Nobody should care that Shepard called down the Normandy (that conveniently happened to be 10 seconds away) into the middle of a hail of laser fire from the Reaper that spent the entire last game gunning for them to sit there for a good minute in order to pick up two of his injured crew but no one else and exchange some heartfelt goodbyes and then sail off unnoticed and unscathed?

If no part of that bothers you, I don't even know what to say.

It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero escapes and saves the day.  I wouldnt over think it. It's just entertainment. 

There's overthinking and then there's thinking at all. Anyone who does the latter should be bothered by it.

i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about. 

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Maxster_ wrote...

babachewie wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

babachewie wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Nobody should care that Shepard called down the Normandy (that conveniently happened to be 10 seconds away) into the middle of a hail of laser fire from the Reaper that spent the entire last game gunning for them to sit there for a good minute in order to pick up two of his injured crew but no one else and exchange some heartfelt goodbyes and then sail off unnoticed and unscathed?

If no part of that bothers you, I don't even know what to say.

It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero escapes and saves the day.  I wouldnt over think it. It's just entertainment. 

You'd be surprised, people like different kinds of entertainment.
Yes, yes, i got that i'm no longer target audience of EAWare; so they are not target audience of my money.

Thats a shame. i'm sure they'll get over it

Should i care?

I dont

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whoops

Modifié par babachewie, 30 septembre 2012 - 10:33 .


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babachewie wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Nobody should care that Shepard called down the Normandy (that conveniently happened to be 10 seconds away) into the middle of a hail of laser fire from the Reaper that spent the entire last game gunning for them to sit there for a good minute in order to pick up two of his injured crew but no one else and exchange some heartfelt goodbyes and then sail off unnoticed and unscathed?

If no part of that bothers you, I don't even know what to say.

It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero escapes and saves the day.  I wouldnt over think it. It's just entertainment. 

There's overthinking and then there's thinking at all. Anyone who does the latter should be bothered by it.

i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about. 

You could just be honest about how you prefer to turn your brain off, you know. It'd be a lot easier than pretending there's nothing wrong with a scene containing enough holes in basic logic to drive a bus through.

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Why is it always bad writing every where I go. From this thread to the next, people say bad writing, Lazy Bioware. I mean come on you want to know why Harbinger didn't shoot down the Normandy.
It's because Harbinger didn't want to kill Shepard at all. He want's Shepard, and Harbinger knows if He shoots down the Normandy Shepard/ the player would kill the Reapers with out a thought.

Now here is the part were you call me an ITer, well I am. So shoot me if you wish, but that's my two cents.

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babachewie wrote...
 i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about. 

Maybe someday you'll discover concept of sci-fi. Or not :D

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masster blaster wrote...

Why is it always bad writing every where I go. From this thread to the next, people say bad writing, Lazy Bioware. I mean come on you want to know why Harbinger didn't shoot down the Normandy.
It's because Harbinger didn't want to kill Shepard at all. He want's Shepard, and Harbinger knows if He shoots down the Normandy Shepard/ the player would kill the Reapers with out a thought.

Now here is the part were you call me an ITer, well I am. So shoot me if you wish, but that's my two cents.


When a powerfull enemy with you at gunpoint doesnt squeeze the trigger is kinda odd... But then again he could be out of ammo. :?

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 30 septembre 2012 - 10:38 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Why is it always bad writing every where I go. From this thread to the next, people say bad writing, Lazy Bioware. I mean come on you want to know why Harbinger didn't shoot down the Normandy.
It's because Harbinger didn't want to kill Shepard at all. He want's Shepard, and Harbinger knows if He shoots down the Normandy Shepard/ the player would kill the Reapers with out a thought.

Now here is the part were you call me an ITer, well I am. So shoot me if you wish, but that's my two cents.

Shooting you would only prove the IT. As everything else :D

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masster blaster wrote...

Why is it always bad writing every where I go. From this thread to the next, people say bad writing, Lazy Bioware. I mean come on you want to know why Harbinger didn't shoot down the Normandy.
It's because Harbinger didn't want to kill Shepard at all. He want's Shepard, and Harbinger knows if He shoots down the Normandy Shepard/ the player would kill the Reapers with out a thought.

Now here is the part were you call me an ITer, well I am. So shoot me if you wish, but that's my two cents.

"Preserve Shepard's body if possible." -Harbinger
"Face annihilation." -Harbinger
"If I must tear you apart, Shepard, I will" -Harbinger

Clearly it's concerned about keeping Shepard alive.

Modifié par tvman099, 30 septembre 2012 - 10:40 .


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tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

tvman099 wrote...

babachewie wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Well the collectors shot down the first Normandy and look what happend to them.
Harby just didn't like the idea of a Normandy SR-3 kicking his ass.

Actually, i don't know and it doesn't bother me anyway

i dont know why it should bother anybody to be honest

Nobody should care that Shepard called down the Normandy (that conveniently happened to be 10 seconds away) into the middle of a hail of laser fire from the Reaper that spent the entire last game gunning for them to sit there for a good minute in order to pick up two of his injured crew but no one else and exchange some heartfelt goodbyes and then sail off unnoticed and unscathed?

If no part of that bothers you, I don't even know what to say.

It doesnt bother me. There could be a number a reasons why it wasnt destroyed. Ultimately one being cause that would of sucked. The same for when in movies the villain captures the hero and has to explain his whole plan when just shooting him would end it right there. Then Hero escapes and saves the day.  I wouldnt over think it. It's just entertainment. 

There's overthinking and then there's thinking at all. Anyone who does the latter should be bothered by it.

i personally dont believe it has anything to do with thinking, but bitterness. People are just looking for anything to complain about. 

You could just be honest about how you prefer to turn your brain off, you know. It'd be a lot easier than pretending there's nothing wrong with a scene containing enough holes in basic logic to drive a bus through.

There really isn't any holes. Again there are a number of reasons why it might of not been destroyed. It doesnt really matter though. It wasnt destroyed. If that bothers you, than I dont know what to tell you. close your eyes I guess during the scene and head canon somethign better and open them after its over

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Twinzam.V wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Why is it always bad writing every where I go. From this thread to the next, people say bad writing, Lazy Bioware. I mean come on you want to know why Harbinger didn't shoot down the Normandy.
It's because Harbinger didn't want to kill Shepard at all. He want's Shepard, and Harbinger knows if He shoots down the Normandy Shepard/ the player would kill the Reapers with out a thought.

Now here is the part were you call me an ITer, well I am. So shoot me if you wish, but that's my two cents.


When a powerfull enemy with you at gunpoint doesnt squeeze the trigger is kinda odd... But then again he could be out of ammo:?


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