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DA-3: How Bioware can screw things up Again


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#26
Emzamination

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Killer3000ad wrote...

THe only way Bioware can trip up is when they try to appeal to the mass market instead of their core fanbase. Listen to the fans Bioware, dumbing down your game may win you short term fairweather fans who will leave at the announcement of the next COD, but your hardcore fans who stuck by you for years will always be loyal if you make a game aimed at THEM! Not the mass market!


I'm apart of bioware's core fanbase and you most definitely don't speak for me.

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1. remove the single button combat.
2. recycled environments.
3. no day one dlc except if you bought the game new.
4. no lying or making promises that can't be kept.
5. no preset human character.

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Here's a crazy idea: Maybe Bioware knows what they're doing. Maybe they do hear, but it's difficult to find legitimate, reparable suggestions amidst all the random, personalize-the-game-to-exactly-what-I-want complaining. Maybe we should sit back and watch for a while, before we assume that they are doing everything wrong.

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Auintus wrote...

Here's a crazy idea: Maybe Bioware knows what they're doing.

I'd believe that if DA2, TOR, and ME3 weren't so abominable.

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fchopin wrote...

Since ME2 not DA2.

 No no, you got it completely wrong. Everything after Shattered Steel have only been unplayable pangerings to the COD crowd.

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marshalleck wrote...

Auintus wrote...

Here's a crazy idea: Maybe Bioware knows what they're doing.

I'd believe that if DA2, TOR, and ME3 weren't so abominable.


After ME3 how can anyone believe that?

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Aolbain

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frostajulie wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Auintus wrote...

Here's a crazy idea: Maybe Bioware knows what they're doing.

I'd believe that if DA2, TOR, and ME3 weren't so abominable.


After ME3 how can anyone believe that?


I agree, how can anyones opinion differ from yours?

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Have 100% autodialogue.
Force us to play MP to get best ending.
Forced friendship.
Make us use real money to buy all equipment in the game (Single player and Online)
Have the most ruthless, evil and cruel endings ever.

Guaranteed success, I say.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 29 septembre 2012 - 06:47 .


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frostajulie wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Auintus wrote...

Here's a crazy idea: Maybe Bioware knows what they're doing.

I'd believe that if DA2, TOR, and ME3 weren't so abominable.


After ME3 how can anyone believe that?


Still, it couln't get any worse than Baldur's Gate 1. Anything is an improvement after that. Posted Image

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frostajulie wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Auintus wrote...

Here's a crazy idea: Maybe Bioware knows what they're doing.

I'd believe that if DA2, TOR, and ME3 weren't so abominable.


After ME3 how can anyone believe that?


I liked ME3. Sure I didn't like a few details, but the whole of the story, gameplay, etc. was good.
I liked DA2. It certainly fell short of Origins on more than one front, but it was a good game.
Bioware said they'd keep us informed with what they could. Until an abomination shows up in development there is no reason to assume that they will do it all wrong.

Modifié par Auintus, 29 septembre 2012 - 07:20 .


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The only way they could actually screw things up, is if they listen to people on these forums.

www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-09-28-blizzards-success-isnt-magic-just-hard-work-and-open-minds

Interesting article on game companies listening to the screamers, and how it hurts them in the long run.

:wizard:

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well you can bet your bottom dollar there will be day 1 dlc and it will likely be crucial to the story so more people buy it. i wouldnt put it past them to make morrigan a day 1 dlc character. but other than that the best way not to ****** people off is to be honest about the contents of your game during the marketing phase. dont lie and dont tell half truths they are both forms of deception and it will make people just as angry. trying to justify deception by saying "well its technically true if you read between the lines" is not going to do you any favors. also if the game gets criticism own it. dont throw out the same lame excuses that you did with me3, nobody cares what the major gaming websites think about it they did not buy the game for us. The most important thing however is if you dont think the game is good enough dont release it. I know that the deadline is not something you have control over but do what you can to convince ea that this game needs to be up to par because i guarantee you will lose alot of customers if da3 turns out to be as bad as me3 and da2 were.

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Uh huh. Okay, a few people have pointed these things out but I'm going to echo them with my own spin:

1. Bioware have little to no say in whether their game is on Origin or Steam. I would prefer Steam too, especially after the fiasco that faced me with ME3 (couldn't install the game from disc because the code had been used, which I just put in when I was asked to), but it's not Bioware "screwing things up" and it doesn't affect the game itself.

2. How does Day 1 DLC affect the game? Just ignore it, and importantly - it was in DA: Origins and ME2, and they turned out fine.

3. DA2 was a screw-up, but that's the only one. ME3 had a divisive love it or hate it ending, nothing more, the rest of the game was superb. SWTOR was mostly great but shouldn't have been subscription-based. Please stop being so amazingly negative, especially if you're just going to complain about things that Bioware have nothing to do with.

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I would *never* want a game on Steam. I had a bad experience with Steam because I tried 3 times to download Alan Wake, with no success, and when I asked for a refund they refused.

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ORIGINS HAVE TO COME BACK!!!!!!!!!

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The less RPG elements there are=the worse the game...

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DA II's marketing. It was too awful to describe.

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davepissedatending

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Make a skyrim clone that game was shi#

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To me they need to love what they do and let it show in the product. They should also look at this way would make the game that they want to play.

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davepissedatending wrote...

Make a skyrim clone that game was shi#


No. Skyrim is a open world sandbox rpg while dragon age is more restricted/linear.These two franchises have their own seperate Identities and need to keep it that way.