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[Jeff Numbers]

 I'm not talking about commendation packs and stuff. I'm talking about in game things like extra banshes, longer extraction times and slower objectives for failing.

Bioware should reward the players for example. Less extraction time, faster objectives or less of a certain enemy types like Atlas' after we just completed an operation for killing 600,000 of them.

That way it would be fair.

Operation failed: Punished
Operation success: Rewarded

What do you guys think?

Modifié par Jeff Numbers, 29 septembre 2012 - 04:15 .

[Jagpferd]

I remember they did this once with Brutes after we had to kill an X amount of them. So for 2 weeks or so there were none or very few brutes appearing in matches.

In any case I agree OP

[N7 Whiskey]

I'd rather they reward us with something good in the Victory Packs, but whatever.

[Tymathee]

or both, i do like the idea. Less Atlas Mech

[k1ngl1ves]

Sounds good. Maybe a better victory pack. Right now, there's no incentive to grind for a weekend. Lately, I just complete the squad goal and go enjoy my weekend.

[DullahansXMark]

5 extra Medi-Gel is enough incentive for me to try (I only have 12)

[Stenun]

Jeff Numbers wrote...

 I'm not talking about commendation packs and stuff. I'm talking about in game things like extra banshes, longer extraction times and slower objectives for failing.

Bioware should reward the players for example. Less extraction time, faster objectives or less of a certain enemy types like Atlas' after we just completed an operation for killing 600,000 of them.

That way it would be fair.

Operation failed: Punished
Operation success: Rewarded

What do you guys think?

I think Victory Packs ARE "in game things" and are a reward.  If we don't fail, we don't get a Victory Pack; if we win, we get a Victory Pack - how is that not a reward?

If a wrtier gets his novel published, that's his reward.  He doesn't sit around saying "hang on, where's my Smart Computer that will write part of my next novel for me?".
If a boxer wins a prize belt, that's his reward.  He doesn't sit around saying "hang on, where's my right to put a horseshoe in my boxing glove to make my next fight easier?".

If a child passes a test at school, does she deserve to have the text book open in the next test?  If a superhero saves the universe, does he insist that next time someone else does it otherwise it's not fair?  If an astronomer discovers a new planet, does he deserve to just sit back and let his telescope do the job of planet discovery for him next time?


A Victory Pack IS a reward.  And consumables, if used, DO make the game easier.  So what's the complaint here, exactly??

Modifié par Stenun, 29 septembre 2012 - 04:54 .

[k1ngl1ves]

Victory pack is a POS! It's not worth it to grind all weekend against Cerberus for a bunch of crap and 1 Level IV consumable! Commendation Pack on the other hand...

[Stenun]

k1ngl1ves wrote...

Victory pack is a POS! It's not worth it to grind all weekend against Cerberus for a bunch of crap and 1 Level IV consumable! Commendation Pack on the other hand...

So this thread isn't actually about "no reward", it's instead just another thread moaning that the reward we do get is somehow not enough?  Like BioWare are somehow under obligation to give us better free things?

[DullahansXMark]

k1ngl1ves wrote...

Victory pack is a POS! It's not worth it to grind all weekend against Cerberus for a bunch of crap and 1 Level IV consumable! Commendation Pack on the other hand...

Hey, a Premium Jumbo Equipment Pack is fine by me. Free stuff is free stuff, and useful free stuff is even better.

[k1ngl1ves]

A writer gets paid. A boxer gets paid. An astronomer gets paid. A superhero is not real. A child gets an education... To get paid at a later date. All of your examples are dumb...

[k1ngl1ves]

This forum keeps bringing up this topic. I don't get why. I only do squad goals. If I get a victory pack... Yay! I could care less either way.

[TMB903]

I agree that there should be more of a reward as well. I'm sure Bioware has realized this and it wouldn't surprise me if they address it in the near future...

[Stenun]

k1ngl1ves wrote...

A writer gets paid. A boxer gets paid. An astronomer gets paid. A superhero is not real. A child gets an education... To get paid at a later date. All of your examples are dumb...

"payment" is not the same as "reward".

You want to get paid for playing a game?  Apply for a job as a games tester.

[Razhathael]

Jagpferd wrote...

I remember they did this once with Brutes after we had to kill an X amount of them. So for 2 weeks or so there were none or very few brutes appearing in matches.

In any case I agree OP

Hah, sounds more like a punishment to me. I love fighting brutes, my favorite reaper unit to fight.

Still, I doubt anyone would miss something like banshees. But removing them would make things maybe a bit too easy. Unless they replace them with an X amount of other enemies.

[Mr. Pockets]

k1ngl1ves wrote...

A writer gets paid. A boxer gets paid. An astronomer gets paid. A superhero is not real. A child gets an education... To get paid at a later date. All of your examples are dumb...

They were pretty bad...

Anyways I don't take issue with the victory packs. I just play more, and then buy packs till I get the stuff I wanted. Changing the appearance % of certain enemies or altering aspects of objectives isn't something I really feel is necessary. A real cure for the tedium that creeps up on me would be different game types, which I'm also aware is a strech. In the mean time though I could probably deal with Platinum being made a single faction. This mixed crap just doesn't make sense to me... Not that it stops me 

[RoZh2400]

Uhhh...they're called "Victory Packs". >.>;

[Stenun]

Mr. Pockets wrote...

k1ngl1ves wrote...

A writer gets paid. A boxer gets paid. An astronomer gets paid. A superhero is not real. A child gets an education... To get paid at a later date. All of your examples are dumb...

They were pretty bad...

No, they weren't ...

A writer gets paid by book sales.  He does not get given a way to make writing his next novel easier which is what the OP is asking for the game to do.
A boxer gets paid to fight.  He does not get given a way to make his next fight easier which is what the OP is asking for the game to do.
etc.

Use your head, people.  The examples are about succees never being a gaurantee that next time things will be easier, but that's what the OP is asking for and everyone else seems to be going along with.

[Blarg]

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

I'd rather they reward us with something good in the Victory Packs, but whatever.

[DullahansXMark]

Stenun wrote...
The examples are about succees never being a gaurantee that next time things will be easier, but that's what the OP is asking for and everyone else seems to be going along with.

I'm not

A promotional weapon in the VicPacks would be nice, though. But hey, I can always use more Medi-Gel!

[Jeff Numbers]

RoZh2400 wrote...

Uhhh...they're called "Victory Packs". >.>;

A victory pack with a few consumables is hardly a reward for playing all weekend.

Stenun wrote...

Mr. Pockets wrote...

k1ngl1ves wrote...

A writer gets paid. A boxer gets paid. An astronomer gets paid. A superhero is not real. A child gets an education... To get paid at a later date. All of your examples are dumb...

They were pretty bad...

No, they weren't ...

A writer gets paid by book sales.  He does not get given a way to make writing his next novel easier which is what the OP is asking for the game to do.
A boxer gets paid to fight.  He does not get given a way to make his next fight easier which is what the OP is asking for the game to do.
etc.

Use your head, people.  The examples are about succees never being a gaurantee that next time things will be easier, but that's what the OP is asking for and everyone else seems to be going along with.

This is a video game, not real life. 

[XxIveGotKrabsxX]

The only issue with the victory pack is that it's by no means a reward. Think of it this way, you use 6 medi-gels, 4 missiles, 5 spec ops, and 2 thermal clips on Friday, you then use 2 medi-gels, 5 missiles, 1 spec ops, and 3 thermal clips on saturday. Finally you use 8 Medi-gel, 6 missiles, 4 specs ops, and 1 thermal clip on sunday. This is not including if you used all 3 types of weapon/ammo etc consumables every match.

So we're at
16 Medi-Gels used
15 Missiles used
10 Spec ops used
6 Thermal clips used

Then Tuesday comes around and you get the following:
5 Medi-gels
5 Missiles
5 Spec ops
5 Thermal clips
1 Random equip
1 Random equip
1 Random equip
1 Random equip
1 Random equip
1 Random lvl 4 ammo (For most people, newer players get gold weapons etc...)

So technically you're in the hole now from going for your "Victory Pack Reward"

Modifié par XxIveGotKrabsxX, 29 septembre 2012 - 05:26 .

[Mr. Pockets]

Stenun wrote...

Mr. Pockets wrote...

k1ngl1ves wrote...

A writer gets paid. A boxer gets paid. An astronomer gets paid. A superhero is not real. A child gets an education... To get paid at a later date. All of your examples are dumb...

They were pretty bad...

No, they weren't ...

A writer gets paid by book sales.  He does not get given a way to make writing his next novel easier which is what the OP is asking for the game to do.
A boxer gets paid to fight.  He does not get given a way to make his next fight easier which is what the OP is asking for the game to do.
etc.

Use your head, people.  The examples are about succees never being a gaurantee that next time things will be easier, but that's what the OP is asking for and everyone else seems to be going along with.

Stenum, you're using examples of real life (albeit a little warped), to metaphorically describe why it's ludicrous for people who play ME online to want something a little less watered down than victory packs for weekend objectives, on the basis that you live in a capitlistic society? Just get out. 

I just want different game types or a less non-sensical platinum 

[Constant Motion]

Our reward is averting the disaster. We contained the situation - we could be getting slow drones, long extractions and bonus banshees every two weeks!

I agree that it'd be nice to have a few bonuses as well as hindrances, though. Yes, we did have fewer brutes that one time. Quicker extraction would be interesting!

[CapitateGoose]

Jeff Numbers wrote...

 I'm not talking about commendation packs and stuff. I'm talking about in game things like extra banshes, longer extraction times and slower objectives for failing.

Bioware should reward the players for example. Less extraction time, faster objectives or less of a certain enemy types like Atlas' after we just completed an operation for killing 600,000 of them.

That way it would be fair.

Operation failed: Punished
Operation success: Rewarded

What do you guys think?

It is actually worse:
We are rewarded with a twist in the game when we failed, and nothing changes when we win.
Maybe one exception when we were awarded the chance to use up the medigel supply faster .....