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As far as everoyne knew, that many mages weren't needed.
After all, everyone is surprised at their numbers when they finally come.
Considering the Wardens were the ones arguing for more Mages, I'd say the Chantry's failure to help them out when they've acknowledged the Wardens were the ones that have saved humanity from the Blight four times in the past actually makes them bear the blame and doesn't justify it at all.
I don't think that applies. Gameplay mechanic.
I'd say that given the presence of a Dwarven Herbalist, it ceases to really be a gameplay mechanic. Your argument for this segment was that it was strictly something a Mage could do. And yet the Dwarven Herbalist is, by virtue of being a
Dwarven Herbalist, not a Mage.
Thus, this goes to show that non-Mages can be Herbalists just as well as Mages, and the PC/Companions are not exceptions to it.
But they already can get out of the Circle.
We've seen plenty of examples of mages who were given permissions to do stuff and go travel.
Ines and Wynne.
That's... two. Hardly "plenty of examples".
No, I mean in real history.
Ah.
Do you have any proof that is WASN'T?
No, I don't. Nor have I claimed that I did. I've said that I highly doubt the Elves would even approach anyone with the idea of living in slums.
No, you can't.
You know they have political clout, but you cannot prove just how much. After all, Ferelden kicked them out at one time.
Wrong. They had
planned to do so, but never actually did. And that was only because the Chantry had thrown their lot in with the Orlesians and the Usurper-King Meghren and was helping them out.
Hell, the Dragon Age is rumored to not have been named because of the High Dragon that rampaged during the dawn of the new era, but because it was the Divine of that time trying to show her support for Meghren the Usurper-King whose heraldry was a
dragon.
Divine Beatrix III had her Templars pressure the Viscount Perrin Threnhold of Kirkwall when he blocked the narrow passageway leading into the city, at the behest of one of her good friends.... the Emperor of Orlais. And after the rebellion that transpired, the Templars now unofficially control the city -- showing the Chantry's influence in that city-state.
And having a lot of churches and temples doesn't mean they have the means are resources to help everyone everywhere.
Once again, you are misrepresenting my position. I am not asking them to help everyone everywhere. I am asking them to help people from every race in as many places as they can.
Contrary to what your posts keep saying, there is a difference between the two.
Spekaing of which, what did you Warden/Hawke do to help the poor?
You gathered a LOT of gold over the course of the game. Did you give it all to beggars in the games?
No?
Yes.
In fact, I used an exploit/glitch in-game to create a crapton of traps for the widow of Lothering, always bringing me up to over 2500 gold to fund his crusade against the Blight -- let's ignore how that glitch makes it seem like that woman was
loaded.
Add into that the amount of gold I gave Barlin, the potions I gave to Elder Miriam, the 5 gold my Wardens gave the Chantry of Lothering to help the people of the village, and the various donations I'd given to people everywhere throughout the game, and I'd say my Wardens did more then the Chantry has ever done.
Even my Hawke was not adverse to donating money. He gave money to Lirene's stash for Fereldan refugees, got the Bone Pit workers a raise, gave money to Evelina (not that
that did any good), and when he became Champion Fereldans all throughout Kirkwall benefited from it -- something Lirene states -- and gave 5 gold to Walter.
That's not even scratching the surface of what he did to help people, as there were other options in-game IIRC.
So yes, any time the option presented itself they did in fact help people
You cannot prove that.
Two games, 3 books, and a prequel comic series say otherwise.
Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 19 octobre 2012 - 03:49 .
involved, but no, I was agreeing with you.
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