BleedingUranium wrote...
Did you even read what I said? Equal is equal. Literal is not the default, you need to prove it just as much as we need to prove IT.
But facts trumph conjecture, if you can understand that.
Why the Indoctrination Theory makes no sense for Mass Effect 3
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But facts trumph conjecture, if you can understand that.
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you can't honestly believe that these are not intentionalFixers0 wrote...
His Dialogue.
His Behaviour.
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MajorKellyRisner wrote...
He could be buried under rumble for all we know.
conjecture, we shouldn't have to use that.
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OdanUrr wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
I don't follow, according to IT, everything after Shep gets lased by Harby happens in his head? How is that relevant. Also, if you want to call IT headcanon, then you have to call Literal headcanon too. Equally as valid.
Actually, no, because it's not a headcanon, the EC clearly defines the state of the galaxy for each ending after Shepard makes his choice. Or do you mean to say the EC also takes place in Shepard's head?
Everything between getting lased and breath scene is in Shepard's head.
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Fixers0 wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
Did you even read what I said? Equal is equal. Literal is not the default, you need to prove it just as much as we need to prove IT.
But facts trumph conjecture, if you can understand that.
But they're not facts, you haven't proved anything.
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MajorKellyRisner wrote...
He could be buried under rumble for all we know.
conjecture, we shouldn't have to use that.
You mean, we shouldn't have to think?
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Fixers0 wrote...
MajorKellyRisner wrote...
He could be buried under rumble for all we know.
conjecture, we shouldn't have to use that.
But it is possible, wouldn't you agree?
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you can't honestly believe that these are not intentional
I do believe that, i just don't know why, all i know is that it's bad.
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BleedingUranium wrote...
OdanUrr wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
I don't follow, according to IT, everything after Shep gets lased by Harby happens in his head? How is that relevant. Also, if you want to call IT headcanon, then you have to call Literal headcanon too. Equally as valid.
Actually, no, because it's not a headcanon, the EC clearly defines the state of the galaxy for each ending after Shepard makes his choice. Or do you mean to say the EC also takes place in Shepard's head?
Everything between getting lased and breath scene is in Shepard's head.
That's rather pushing it, isn't it? So, in that case, Bioware created the EC to what end exactly?
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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 07:39
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But they're not facts, you haven't proved anything.
Have you even been reading my posts?
Fact A : Anderson is nowehere to be seen in London by the conduit.
Fact B: Anderson claims to follow shepard up seconds after s/he's on the citadel.
Conclusion: Inconsistent narrative.
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OdanUrr wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
OdanUrr wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
I don't follow, according to IT, everything after Shep gets lased by Harby happens in his head? How is that relevant. Also, if you want to call IT headcanon, then you have to call Literal headcanon too. Equally as valid.
Actually, no, because it's not a headcanon, the EC clearly defines the state of the galaxy for each ending after Shepard makes his choice. Or do you mean to say the EC also takes place in Shepard's head?
Everything between getting lased and breath scene is in Shepard's head.
That's rather pushing it, isn't it? So, in that case, Bioware created the EC to what end exactly?
To calm the fan population until their plan comes to full circle.
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MajorKellyRisner wrote...
But it is possible, wouldn't you agree?
What you or I think is irrelvant, it's the facts that matter.
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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 07:40
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Fixers0 wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
But they're not facts, you haven't proved anything.
Have you even been reading my posts?
Fact A : Anderson is nowehere to be seen in London by the conduit.
Fact B: Anderson claims to follow shepard up seconds after s/he's on the citadel.
Conclusion: Inconsistent narrative.
How are theses facts? Theses are assumtions.
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Fixers0 wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
But they're not facts, you haven't proved anything.
Have you even been reading my posts?
Fact A : Anderson is nowehere to be seen in London by the conduit.
Fact B: Anderson claims to follow shepard up seconds after s/he's on the citadel.
Conclusion: Inconsistent narrative.
IT
Explains everything.
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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 07:42
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MajorKellyRisner wrote...
How are theses facts? Theses are assumtions.
I'm deducing these points directly from what the game provides us, they're facts.
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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 07:43
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TJBartlemus wrote...
OdanUrr wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
OdanUrr wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
I don't follow, according to IT, everything after Shep gets lased by Harby happens in his head? How is that relevant. Also, if you want to call IT headcanon, then you have to call Literal headcanon too. Equally as valid.
Actually, no, because it's not a headcanon, the EC clearly defines the state of the galaxy for each ending after Shepard makes his choice. Or do you mean to say the EC also takes place in Shepard's head?
Everything between getting lased and breath scene is in Shepard's head.
That's rather pushing it, isn't it? So, in that case, Bioware created the EC to what end exactly?
To calm the fan population until their plan comes to full circle.
I don't mean to sound rude or anything but, honestly, how long are you prepared to wait on that?
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Fixers0 wrote...
MajorKellyRisner wrote...
How are theses facts? Theses are assumtions.
I'm deducing these points directly from what the game provides us, they're facts.
No, they YOUR interptations, not facts.
As a side note, apparently i have caused a up roar.
Complete and Utter Chaos, just way I like it :3
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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 07:45
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MajorKellyRisner wrote...
No, they YOUR interptations, not facts.
They're facts: Anderson isn't at the conduit in London and he does claim to follow Shepard up, can you deny these two facts with evidence directly from the game?
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OdanUrr wrote...
TJBartlemus wrote...
OdanUrr wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
OdanUrr wrote...
BleedingUranium wrote...
I don't follow, according to IT, everything after Shep gets lased by Harby happens in his head? How is that relevant. Also, if you want to call IT headcanon, then you have to call Literal headcanon too. Equally as valid.
Actually, no, because it's not a headcanon, the EC clearly defines the state of the galaxy for each ending after Shepard makes his choice. Or do you mean to say the EC also takes place in Shepard's head?
Everything between getting lased and breath scene is in Shepard's head.
That's rather pushing it, isn't it? So, in that case, Bioware created the EC to what end exactly?
To calm the fan population until their plan comes to full circle.
I don't mean to sound rude or anything but, honestly, how long are you prepared to wait on that?
March 5, 2013.
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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 07:47
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Fixers0 wrote...
MajorKellyRisner wrote...
No, they YOUR interptations, not facts.
They're facts: Anderson isn't at the conduit in London and he does claim to follow Shepard up, can you deny these two facts with evidence directly from the game?
They are Assumtions, not facts. Anderson could be buried somewhere under some rubble, or maybe even be still on the Catalyst.
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how can any game developer, let alone bioware, **** up a perfectly good character so close to end of a trilogy?Fixers0 wrote...
Samtheman63 wrote...
you can't honestly believe that these are not intentional
I do believe that, i just don't know why, all i know is that it's bad.
they cant
theres clearly more to the ending than meets the eye, why people continue to ignore this i really dont know
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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 07:50
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Samtheman63 wrote...
how can any game developer, let alone bioware, **** up a perfectly good character so close to end of a trilogy?Fixers0 wrote...
Samtheman63 wrote...
you can't honestly believe that these are not intentional
I do believe that, i just don't know why, all i know is that it's bad.
they cant
theres clearly more to the ending than meets the eye, why people continue to ignore this i really dont know
Transformers much? haha, but you do have a good point there
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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 07:51
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MajorKellyRisner wrote...
They are Assumtions, not facts.
Again, they're facts: Anderson isn't at conduit acces and he does claim to have followed Shepard up, what's so hard to understand.
MajorKellyRisner wrote...
Anderson could be buried somewhere under some rubble,
Is that the best thing you can come up with: A flimsy conjectural statemant
MajorKellyRisner wrote...
or maybe even be still on the Catalyst.
WTF is this supposed to mean?
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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 07:53
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Samtheman63 wrote...
how can any game developer, let alone bioware, **** up a perfectly good character so close to end of a trilogy?
I don't know, but fact remains it's bad writing.
Samtheman63 wrote...
they cant
They did.
Samtheman63 wrote...
theres clearly more to the ending than meets the eye, why people continue to ignore this i really dont know
Conjecture.
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Fixers0 wrote...
MajorKellyRisner wrote...
They are Assumtions, not facts.
Again, they're facts: Anderson isn't at conduit acces and he does claim to have followed Shepard up, what's so hard to understand.MajorKellyRisner wrote...
Anderson could be buried somewhere under some rubble,
Is that the best thing you can come up with: A flimsy conjectural statemant
MajorKellyRisner wrote...
or maybe even be still on the Catalyst.
WTF is this supposed to mean?
Again, NOT FACTS. Prove that they are facts, Prove that Anderson is not truly there, Find his body if you can.
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Posté 29 septembre 2012 - 07:56
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MajorKellyRisner wrote...
Again, NOT FACTS. Prove that they are facts,
They're facts: Anderson is not there. have you seen him? i didn't, the Narative didn't, though they later implied they did.
MajorKellyRisner wrote...
Prove that Anderson is not truly there,
The burden of proof is on you, as you are arguing the assumption that Anderson is there, while he clearly isn't
MajorKellyRisner wrote...
Find his body if you can.
It isn't there, he's nowhere.
