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Why the Indoctrination Theory makes no sense for Mass Effect 3


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MajorKellyRisner

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Fixers0 wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Which you have nothing to back up either but some random guy commentary. 

Your a real idiot Fix...



First: Personal Insults are forbidden.

Second: Facts only need to be established once. 


First, matter of opinion. Second, again, matter of opinon.

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MajorKellyRisner

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Restrider wrote...

So, MajorKellyRisner?
I assume you are a so-called pro-ender?
After seven pages of discussion, which has more to it, the Indoctrination Theory or the Bad Writing Theory?
BTW, I don't know if this was mentioned before, but seeing that Banshee is here, I suppose it already was.
Regardless:
If you take everything literal/at face value, do you also take the statement of a BW staff literal that some elements of ME3 are not to be taken at face value? This is just out of curiousity. I'm not trying to offend anybody.
Edit: I am refering to you since the other non-IT supporter thread triggered my ignore function out of obvious reasons.


Which as more? Niether. Its all conjecture and matter of views of what people think.

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MajorKellyRisner wrote...


Wrong, it demends on the matter of how people respond to the game and endings. If one liked the endings, they can state their opinion. If they didn't, visa versa. But it doesn't explain bad writing if it just one person opinion. there are no facts for it, just opinion


You like the endings, That's fine, though i do question your sense of taste.

However, the video still brings ample amount of objective evidence of bad writing.

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Fixers0 wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...


Wrong, it demends on the matter of how people respond to the game and endings. If one liked the endings, they can state their opinion. If they didn't, visa versa. But it doesn't explain bad writing if it just one person opinion. there are no facts for it, just opinion


You like the endings, That's fine, though i do question your sense of taste.

However, the video still brings ample amount of objective evidence of bad writing.




Bad writing is a matter of opinion...for the love of gawd..

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Guys, what are you doing? No-one is making any points about anything here. You've literally gone 3 pages in an hour saying

- Anderson is not there, but then he's there.

- Yes but this doesn't imply bad writing.

- Yes it does. It is a fact extrapolated from other facts. Your facts are conjecture.

- No, it's not a fact. Your argument itself is conjecture.

- No, because Anderson is there and then is not there.


What are you doing????

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MajorKellyRisner wrote...

First, matter of opinion. Second, again, matter of opinon.


So, calling someone an idiot isn't an personal insult, you've just been reported.

And second: you're being illogical, how are facts matter of opinions?

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Final hours app DEFINITIVELY PROVES that indoctrination was the intended narrative choice by Bioware. The only thing they gave up on was implementing a game mechanic that causes the player to lose control of Shepard because of the difficulty of implementing that mechanic along the dialogue wheel. Why would they change the entire narrative just because of the difficulty of one game mechanic.

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MajorKellyRisner wrote...


Bad writing is a matter of opinion...for the love of gawd..



Bad writing can be objectivly proven through analysis.

Modifié par Fixers0, 29 septembre 2012 - 09:38 .


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Davik Kang wrote...

Guys, what are you doing? No-one is making any points about anything here. You've literally gone 3 pages in an hour saying

- Anderson is not there, but then he's there.

- Yes but this doesn't imply bad writing.

- Yes it does. It is a fact extrapolated from other facts. Your facts are conjecture.

- No, it's not a fact. Your argument itself is conjecture.

- No, because Anderson is there and then is not there.


What are you doing????

You're right. Ha! Someone, feel free to bring up a point we can discuss...

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Davik Kang wrote...

Guys, what are you doing? No-one is making any points about anything here. You've literally gone 3 pages in an hour saying

- Anderson is not there, but then he's there.

- Yes but this doesn't imply bad writing.

- Yes it does. It is a fact extrapolated from other facts. Your facts are conjecture.

- No, it's not a fact. Your argument itself is conjecture.

- No, because Anderson is there and then is not there.


What are you doing????


We are at this stage because Fixer here makes no logical sense and has no validity to his "Facts", only matters of views and opinions of others

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Fixers0 wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...


Bad writing is a matter of opinion...for the love of gawd..



Bad writing can be objectivly proven through analysis.

a biased, opinon based analysis

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Samtheman63 wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...


Bad writing is a matter of opinion...for the love of gawd..



Bad writing can be objectivly proven through analysis.

a biased, opinon based analysis


Point exactly.

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Samtheman63 wrote...

a biased, opinon based analysis


The analysis i'm refering to is entirely base upon objective facts provided by the game.

Modifié par Fixers0, 29 septembre 2012 - 09:40 .


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Fixers0 wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...


Bad writing is a matter of opinion...for the love of gawd..



Bad writing can be objectivly proven through analysis.


Prove it then, in your own words

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Fixers0 wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

a biased, opinon based analysis


The analysis i'm refering to is entirely base upon objective facts provided by the game.

ok, name 3

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MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Prove it then, in your own words


I don't need to as it's allready been done, see the link i gave you earlier for a detailed analysis.

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Samtheman63 wrote...

ok, name 3


I only need one and i just linked to it.

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MajorKellyRisner

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Fixers0 wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Prove it then, in your own words


I don't need to as it's allready been done, see the link i gave you earlier for a detailed analysis.


Thats not you own words. 

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Fixers0 wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

a biased, opinon based analysis


The analysis i'm refering to is entirely base upon objective facts provided by the game.

Just because it factually occurs in game doesn't mean your analysis of it is objective.

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MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Thats not you own words. 



my own words are irrelvant as it involves factual information, i don't need to provide them when somebody else has allready done it fore me and others. 

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MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Prove it then, in your own words


I don't need to as it's allready been done, see the link i gave you earlier for a detailed analysis.


Thats not you own words. 


Right, prove you actually understand what it is you're talking about.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

a biased, opinon based analysis


The analysis i'm refering to is entirely base upon objective facts provided by the game.

Just because it factually occurs in game doesn't mean your analysis of it is objective.


Exactly what i have been trying to say for the past hours

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Just because it factually occurs in game doesn't mean your analysis of it is objective.



We've nothing else to go on, other then what's presented within the narrative.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Prove it then, in your own words


I don't need to as it's allready been done, see the link i gave you earlier for a detailed analysis.


Thats not you own words. 


Right, prove you actually understand what it is you're talking about.


+1

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Fixers0 wrote...

Samtheman63 wrote...

a biased, opinon based analysis


The analysis i'm refering to is entirely base upon objective facts provided by the game.

So the game provides facts of bad writing... Oh wait, you just don't like the ending so you say that the game proves bad writing. Your opinion of the ending is not a fact.