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They won't do it because Morrigan's son isn't there for everybody. They won't make a companion for only people who did the ritual.


In DA2, they made mutually exclusive companions depending on your class. Mask of the Betrayer (not Bio, I know) had mutually exclusive companions depending on an early choice  - Okku and One-of-Many. Torment had at least two party members which were very easy to miss. ME2 had a party member whom you get only if you betray another companion for a serial killer. DAO and Awakening had party members which you could kill - for sound reasons, not just for a whim - before they even joined the party.

So writing companions which many players will not see is not so rare, after all.


But who would be a suitable replacement for the Old God Baby in the story?  This kid has the soul of an Old God, and will presumably be very powerful, and Morrigan may be trying to control her son, while Flemeth might be interested in gaining his power too.

It would be odd to replace him in some games with Harold the Beet Farmer's Son.  Obviously, they'd want to make the character a bit more exciting than that, but it's not going to be like Bethany and Carver, who come from the same family, or Kaidan and Ashley from Mass Effect, who are both Systems Alliance soldiers.  Even Okku and One-of-Many are bound together by the fact that One-of-Many can't exist without Okku dying.  Who would be interchangeable or story bound to the Old God Baby?



I kind of liked the idea of the Old God Baby being twins; one on either side of the main conflict.

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syllogi wrote...

But who would be a suitable replacement for the Old God Baby in the story?  This kid has the soul of an Old God, and will presumably be very powerful, and Morrigan may be trying to control her son, while Flemeth might be interested in gaining his power too.

It would be odd to replace him in some games with Harold the Beet Farmer's Son.  Obviously, they'd want to make the character a bit more exciting than that, but it's not going to be like Bethany and Carver, who come from the same family, or Kaidan and Ashley from Mass Effect, who are both Systems Alliance soldiers.  Even Okku and One-of-Many are bound together by the fact that One-of-Many can't exist without Okku dying.  Who would be interchangeable or story bound to the Old God Baby?


I have no doubt they'd find someone - if there's one thing in which Bio has never disappointed, it's writing interesting companions. They could go for something completely different from the OGB (and not related story-wise) but equally unique and intriguing, like a former Qunari Arishok turned Tal-Vashoth, an intelligent Darkspawn...

As for the problem of balance, well, the OGB doesn't have to be a game breaker. He could be still learning to master his powers.

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...well, not as a baby, of course.

WHY NOT?! He'll have an awesome skill tree:

Pouting: Reduces enemies defense by -10%
Nap time: Restores 10% health every 15 sec past
Baby rampage: Combat strength increased by 20% but defense is lower by -10%  
Cry me a river: Sweeps unsuspecting enemies in a river of tears dealing 30% salt water damage 

Baby talk: Dovahkin's special language only understandable by dragons

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How old would he/she be at the end of DA2?

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How old would he/she be at the end of DA2?

Around ten, I think. And Morrigan said she had a boy.

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syllogi wrote...

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KENNY4753 wrote...

They won't do it because Morrigan's son isn't there for everybody. They won't make a companion for only people who did the ritual.


In DA2, they made mutually exclusive companions depending on your class. Mask of the Betrayer (not Bio, I know) had mutually exclusive companions depending on an early choice  - Okku and One-of-Many. Torment had at least two party members which were very easy to miss. ME2 had a party member whom you get only if you betray another companion for a serial killer. DAO and Awakening had party members which you could kill - for sound reasons, not just for a whim - before they even joined the party.

So writing companions which many players will not see is not so rare, after all.


But who would be a suitable replacement for the Old God Baby in the story?  This kid has the soul of an Old God, and will presumably be very powerful, and Morrigan may be trying to control her son, while Flemeth might be interested in gaining his power too.

It would be odd to replace him in some games with Harold the Beet Farmer's Son.  Obviously, they'd want to make the character a bit more exciting than that, but it's not going to be like Bethany and Carver, who come from the same family, or Kaidan and Ashley from Mass Effect, who are both Systems Alliance soldiers.  Even Okku and One-of-Many are bound together by the fact that One-of-Many can't exist without Okku dying.  Who would be interchangeable or story bound to the Old God Baby?



I kind of liked the idea of the Old God Baby being twins; one on either side of the main conflict.


Except that anyone who doesn't get the OGB wouldn't have a twin of the OGB either; Morrigan would have either had a regular kid with the Warden or no child at all.

A suitable replacement for the character would have to be connected to Morrigan and Flemeth in some way (without necessarily being Morrigan's child, or at least the child conceived with a Warden), and would have to have some sort of power connected to the Old Gods.  If there isn't already some subplot in motion that can tie this together, it would feel mighty coincidental to have this person show up in games where there's no OGB.

Not saying I wouldn't want to see a plot like this, I just would hope it's done in a way that makes sense and ties the threads of plot hanging from DA:O together, even if you didn't do the Dark Ritual.

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Since it's probably a little late for Dragon Age 3, maybe in Dragon Age 4, Morrigan's son can be the protagonist and his race can be decided by reading the origin save to ascertain his father's( if the warden) race. Sure you can't choose your gender but I'd be willing to compromise for the racial options.

I'd love to play the progeny of my snobbish Dwarf noble warden!