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[DonSwingKing]

I know it is a bit too early for this discussion, but i would like to know what the community thinks about DRM and especially Origin. This is of course concerning the PC version of the game.

While Dragon Age 2 used SecuRom and didn't require Origin, Mass Effect 3 did, so it's likely that DA3 going to get it aswell. EA is pushing Origin hardly since last year and i doubt that Bioware has any say on that topic.

Would you prefer Securom or any other copy protection over Origin? I actually hope that it's going to be DRM-free, but im thinking realistic. Its very improbable. I could also accept some sort of disk and cd key check, i guess, but any form of online activation would throw me out.

What are your thoughts? Can we have clarification about this? Please do not turn this into a Origin flame war.

Modifié par DonSwingKing, 29 septembre 2012 - 08:57 .

[naughty99]

Dragon Age 3 is almost definitely going to be an Origin game.

I reluctantly installed Origin to get my free copy of ME2, and I was pleasantly surprised to see it has a small memory footprint and the download speeds are fast, sometimes faster than Steam's servers.

In my view, the only area that Origin needs to work on improving (apart from cheaper deep discount sales prices) is the social features. EA should look into incorporating ways to take screenshots or record videos. I actually had to add the Origin client to my Steam library, and launch ME3 through Steam, just so I could use the Steam overlay to take screenshots. (!)

Also it needs to provide a good way to track your total playing time for each game and perhaps take a cue from Steam's new community features which incorporate discussion forums for every game and group, as well as feeds that show your friend's activities (uploading videos, screenshots, or mods).

More than anything, I really hope Dragon Age 3 ships with a mod toolkit and EA provides a way to easily publish and share your mods on Origin. That would not only improve the replay value of DA3, but actually enhance the value of the Origin client.

Modifié par naughty99, 29 septembre 2012 - 09:05 .

[slimgrin]

Origin will be required, that much is certain. Which means a mandatory client and DRM.

Modifié par slimgrin, 29 septembre 2012 - 09:57 .

[CommanderVyse]

Origin regularly will not properly load ME3 and ends up preventing my computer from shutting down. As in, I need to hard reset because Windows is hanging. This is a known problem on the EA tech support forums but does not get fixed. I've dealt with viruses that do less harm to my computer than Origin.

[Wulfram]

That pause as the game signs in and verifies stuff is very annoying. Couldn't that sort of thing be done in the background?

[robertm2]

well i will not buy a game that requires an internet connection to play single player. thats just ridiculous. i am not supporter of drm. it does not work. pirates will crack the drm sometimes before the game is even released. all it does is give legitimate buyers another thing to get in the way of them playing. when you have heavy drm like what ea implements it makes a pirated version of the game easier to access and play than a retail version. not to mention most people who pirate games would not have bought them in the first place. if i couldn't download or stream a movies online it would not make me go out and pay for it. i simply wouldn't watch it until it came on tv or netflix. im sure its the same with people who pirate games.

[mcneil_1]

I wish by the time DA3 comes out, that Bioware have fixed the rather lengthy connecting to EA servers then the dlc checks

Modifié par mcneil_1, 29 septembre 2012 - 10:32 .

[Mr_Steph]

I will most likely use Origin and I don't have a problem with that.

[naughty99]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

After having seen the various legitimate complaints about Origin on the technical ME forums, I don't think I'd get DA 3 if it would require Origin. Not like I'd buy it anyway after the ****ty mess that was DA 2.

Perhaps I'm lucky, but personally, I haven't experienced any technical problems with the Origin client, which I used with ME2, ME3 and DA2. I was also able to play in offline mode without any problems.

[Vandicus]

naughty99 wrote...

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

After having seen the various legitimate complaints about Origin on the technical ME forums, I don't think I'd get DA 3 if it would require Origin. Not like I'd buy it anyway after the ****ty mess that was DA 2.

Perhaps I'm lucky, but personally, I haven't experienced any technical problems with the Origin client, which I used with ME2, ME3 and DA2. I was also able to play in offline mode without any problems.

Likewise. The Cloud saves from Origin actually came in handy when I moved to my new computer.

[Conduit0]

robertm2 wrote...

well i will not buy a game that requires an internet connection to play single player. thats just ridiculous. i am not supporter of drm. it does not work. pirates will crack the drm sometimes before the game is even released. all it does is give legitimate buyers another thing to get in the way of them playing. when you have heavy drm like what ea implements it makes a pirated version of the game easier to access and play than a retail version. not to mention most people who pirate games would not have bought them in the first place. if i couldn't download or stream a movies online it would not make me go out and pay for it. i simply wouldn't watch it until it came on tv or netflix. im sure its the same with people who pirate games.

Although I agree with you, I do feel the need to point out that Origin does not require an online connection to play games. You can select to run Origin in Offline mode, which will allow you to play single player, including DLC content without an active connection.

[Gorath Alpha]

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

After having seen the various legitimate complaints about Origin on the technical ME forums, I don't think I'd get DA 3 if it would require Origin. Not like I'd buy it anyway after the ****ty mess that was DA 2.

Yes, straight out of the graveyard.  In the year that this thread remained buried, Origin has only gotten worse, not better.  I didn't want Orign a year ago, and didn't buy ME-3.  If it is a definite requirement for DA: I also, then I'll pass this one up (given that a superior game, Witcher 3 -- well, probably superior) won't have DRM, it will be by far the better purchase. 

I don't mind a disk check, but I keep gaming machines stripped down of any extraneous software, and Origin is just that, extraneous. 

[Knight of Dane]

naughty99 wrote...

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

After having seen the various legitimate complaints about Origin on the technical ME forums, I don't think I'd get DA 3 if it would require Origin. Not like I'd buy it anyway after the ****ty mess that was DA 2.

Perhaps I'm lucky, but personally, I haven't experienced any technical problems with the Origin client, which I used with ME2, ME3 and DA2. I was also able to play in offline mode without any problems.

No you are not. There is nothing wrong with origin.

[Deflagratio]

DRM and Windows Operating Systems are the reasons why I'm still primarily a console gamer.

Here's hoping to the future of the Steam OS.

[ghostzodd]

Knight of Dane wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

After having seen the various legitimate complaints about Origin on the technical ME forums, I don't think I'd get DA 3 if it would require Origin. Not like I'd buy it anyway after the ****ty mess that was DA 2.

Perhaps I'm lucky, but personally, I haven't experienced any technical problems with the Origin client, which I used with ME2, ME3 and DA2. I was also able to play in offline mode without any problems.

No you are not. There is nothing wrong with origin.

EA is whats wrong with Origin:whistle:

[9TailsFox]

robertm2 already write DRM don't work this is fact. Why I must be punished for buying game then people who din't pay for game play happy with no problems. Origin is **** use after it works. My sims 3 games don't even start, cracked sims 3 works fine. DA:O have some mising textures problems or crashes in certain ares I can't complete witch hunt DLC at all in elven ruines not textures just black, and of course pirated game don't have problems at all except horrible lags at battle of Denerim I always have them. DA2 works fine oh yes maybe because it don't use origin.

[ghostzodd]

In the Immortal words of Gabe Newell

"the way to end piracy is to provide a service that's more complete
than cracked software, and that restrictive DRM only encourages more
piracy."

Modifié par ghostzodd, 11 janvier 2014 - 09:55 .

[Cimeas]

I actually *like* Origin. There, I said it. I like the fact that my saves are backed up, wherever I am, so I can play on my desktop and then just boot up my laptop on holiday and keep playing right where I left off. I like the fact that I don't have to insert cumbersome discs into my PC just to play the game, and I'm happy that I never have to worry about losing my hardware copy of the game or that stupid little manual with the activation key.

Insert it once, tie it to my account, and keep playing. And if I ever do lose my account, EA customer service are usually very good with getting it back for you.

So yeah, bring on Origin.

[KainD]

DonSwingKing wrote...

I know it is a bit too early for this discussion, but i would like to know what the community thinks about DRM and especially Origin. This is of course concerning the PC version of the game.

I think: 

[Liamv2]

Best thing ever ^

[Liyros]

 What a cute way to display how I feel as the paying customer! (on occasion)  

[BouncyFrag]

perfection

[addiction21]

ghostzodd wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

Ivandra Ceruden wrote...

After having seen the various legitimate complaints about Origin on the technical ME forums, I don't think I'd get DA 3 if it would require Origin. Not like I'd buy it anyway after the ****ty mess that was DA 2.

Perhaps I'm lucky, but personally, I haven't experienced any technical problems with the Origin client, which I used with ME2, ME3 and DA2. I was also able to play in offline mode without any problems.

No you are not. There is nothing wrong with origin.

EA is whats wrong with Origin:whistle:

Being so invested in the EA witch hunt that as long as it has EA attached makes it wrong in everyway possible is the problem.

As evidence

ghostzodd wrote...


In the Immortal words of Gabe Newell

"the way to end piracy is to provide a service that's more complete
than cracked software, and that restrictive DRM only encourages more
piracy."

Steam is at the least just as restrictive as Origins.