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[Lotion Soronarr]

Guns wrote...

3. Exalted March on both. Hail The Maker, Andraste, and the Chantry.

Hail brother!

[Zeleen]

not sure there will be such a choice to be made...
assuming there is... I would hope there is enough background on both factions to make a choice that is pertinent to the way I am playing and developing my PC.  that information (background, story, etc.) will determine whether I side with one or the other

Modifié par Zeleen, 29 octobre 2012 - 08:10 .

[Atrabilious]

Tevinter.

As much as I think the Qunari/Kossith are quite frankly the coolest society/race, and are exceedingly interesting, siding with them seems like an incredibly bad idea. Qunari culture makes Tevinter's idea of slavery look tame. Not to mention their military force. If you were to side with them to solve any sort of Tevinter vs. Qunari conflict, after the fight is done guess who's next on the Qunari hitlist?

Alistair: So I suppose once I'm actually king I could end up in negotiations with the Qunari one day.
Sten: My people do not negotiate.
Alistair: What do you mean? They negotiated a peace treaty after the war, and as far as I know they've kept to its terms.
Sten: They signed a piece of paper. But only because they knew that you believed in it.
Alistair: And what is the difference between that and negotiating?
Sten: They stopped fighting for their own reasons. And they will resume it again, one day. The agreement means nothing to them.
Alistair: But I thought you said your people believed in honor.
Sten: They do. The honor of the Qunari is what will bring our warships back to your shores.

Modifié par Atrabilious, 29 octobre 2012 - 08:11 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Neither. I want to get back to focusing on the darkspawn and the Architect, not some stupid war that the writers are trying to force me to care about. They failed to make a compelling case for it in Dragon Age 2 and that's when it mattered the most.

I'm sure the writers will try again to make a case for the mage/templar conflict in Dragon Age 3.

"It's important. You should care!"
Why should I care?
"Uhh... well.. there's injustice...and... bad things happening to mages!"
Uh-huh. That's it?
"Well, no! ...."
Yeah, no thanks. I'll be playing Witcher 2 and Halo 4. Drinks are in the fridge.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 29 octobre 2012 - 08:21 .

[Orian Tabris]

Ifr we're talking in real life, I would remain neutral and not get involved. Otherwise, it would depend on the character I'm playing.

The Qunari are more or less a religious faction, and I am not one for strict ideals or believing in something I don't know exists. As for Tevinter, the Imperium offends my sensibilities too much for me to associate with them. They seem just too petty and insecure, not to mention very untrustworthy.

[Orian Tabris]

Atrabilious wrote...

Tevinter.

As much as I think the Qunari/Kossith are quite frankly the coolest society/race, and are exceedingly interesting, siding with them seems like an incredibly bad idea. Qunari culture makes Tevinter's idea of slavery look tame. Not to mention their military force. If you were to side with them to solve any sort of Tevinter vs. Qunari conflict, after the fight is done guess who's next on the Qunari hitlist?

That is why I wouldn't side with Tevinter, either. As soon as you have any sort of power, you have to look over your shoulder everyday and everywhere you go. There's really no place in Tevinter society where one can live in peace without a master and without living in fear of your enemies, or anybody. And as Danarius has shown, associating with somone who has any sort of power, will not mean you are free of them, it only means that they will side with you for the purpose of helping them.

The Tevinter Imperium is too whimsical and chaotic, while the Qunari are too strict and orderly.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Qunari. If I have to side with one kind of tyranny vs. another, it may as well be the sort of tyranny that at least attempts to provide for everyone under its rule.

[Zeleen]

looking at both sides.... I really hope a choice is not forced on you -

[Huntress]

Zkyire wrote...

You'd have a better quality of life with the Qunari.

..provided you don't care about spending your entire life doing one task whether you like it or not.

But I'd probably side with Tevinter., albeit not with much enthusiasm.

Is thats why they have defectors? Because they have better quality of life?
this Kossith defectors take up the role of Tal Vashoth.
Let me say that even the leaders like Arishok and Ariqun must follow the path of the Qun. They are free to
choose whether to live as a Qunari or die as a heretic. Other than that its what the Qun demands.

I don't like to be imposed or forced to do anything, but I guess everyone also is "OK" with it.
Freedom: lack of restriction; self-determination; independence; choice; free will.

Modifié par Huntress, 06 novembre 2012 - 04:06 .

[FDrage]

format my hard-drive ?!?

[Josielyn]

I actually want to experience both: Tevinter for awhile, then get taken over forcibly by Qunari, and then after the "attempted conversion to the Q'un" to see if I want to stay that way or run screaming to the nearest Chantry.

[Han Yolo]

Tevinter. But only because I loathe the Qun and all its spawn. They need to be wiped from Thedas really.

[Sealy]

Ohh hard choice, Support one way of life that endorses and makes excuses for slavery... or the other race that endorses and makes excuses for slavery... Gosh, I dunno!

I think I'll just keep rolling my "OMG, why are you all so insane!" protagonists that endorse Flemeth as Queen of the world.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Qunari aren't slaves. It's adorable that people try and stamp that label on to them, but it really just shows your ignorance.

[Sibu]

Tooo much Ethnocentrism in this thread

[Vilegrim]

If I have to make that choice...Tevinter.

[Asch Lavigne]

I'd like to know more about both before deciding. I feel like I need to see both Par Vollen and Tevinter first to get a good idea of both.

However, given that the Qunari keep saying they will one day invade Thedas I am looking forward to whenever that happens. (Hopefully not in DA3, I felt having multiple plots (mages/templars and qunari) didn't work in DA2. Maybe save it for the plot of DA4.)

[KainD]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Qunari aren't slaves. It's adorable that people try and stamp that label on to them, but it really just shows your ignorance.

Nah they are not slaves, they are just animals. No need to think about meaning of life and finding something for yourself, let's just exist, work and die, and make everyone else do the same. 

Killing a qunari is like kiiling a deer. 

[Fredward]

Ew. No. Religious extremism much?

GO TEVINTER!

Modifié par Foopydoopydoo, 06 novembre 2012 - 08:00 .

[EmperorSahlertz]

KainD wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Qunari aren't slaves. It's adorable that people try and stamp that label on to them, but it really just shows your ignorance.

Nah they are not slaves, they are just animals. No need to think about meaning of life and finding something for yourself, let's just exist, work and die, and make everyone else do the same. 

Killing a qunari is like kiiling a deer. 

So you would rather think about the meaning of life, than have meaning in your life. That's cool, but forgive me for claiming that not all would agree with you.

[Sealy]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Qunari aren't slaves. It's adorable that people try and stamp that label on to them, but it really just shows your ignorance.

Erm, not ignorance. My translation. If you feel that being born (Re-born into the Kossith religion??) into a roll that someone else chooses for you and being told to "fulfill that role or die" is freedom then I am sorry but we differ in opinions, but it certainly doesn't make me ignorant.

I just don't see how being captured by slavers, sold to a Magister and being told "In my house this is your role, do your duty to my expectaions or I am within my rights to end your llife" is very different from being taken over and given to a religion and being told "In our religion ths is your role, do your duty or I am within my rights to end your life."

Modifié par Fleshdress, 07 novembre 2012 - 12:28 .

[EmperorSahlertz]

Fleshdress wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Qunari aren't slaves. It's adorable that people try and stamp that label on to them, but it really just shows your ignorance.

Erm, not ignorance. My translation. If you feel that being born (Re-born into the Kossith religion??) into a roll that someone else chooses for you and being told to "fulfill that role or die" is freedom then I am sorry but we differ in opinions, but it certainly doesn't make me ignorant.

I just don't see how being captured by slavers, sold to a Magister and being told "In my house this is your role, do your duty to my expectaions or I am within my rights to end your llife" is very different from being taken over and given to a religion and being told "In our religion ths is your role, do your duty or I am within my rights to end your life."

Being told what "your role is" is not slavery. Slavery would require people being treated like property, sold and bought. Qunari are not. Hence they aren't slaves. While you may find the way of life for the Qunari abhorrent, that is all fine, but to call it slavery is just incorrect.

[Plaintiff]

I don't need to learn anything more about the Qunari to know that their philosophy is utterly repulsive.

I'll side with Tevinter, but I won't be happy about it.

[Plaintiff]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Being told what "your role is" is not slavery.

Then what is it?

If you are stripped of your personal freedoms and forced into a particular role, with non-compliance being punished by chemical lobotomy or death, then how are you anything other than a slave?

[Vitlen]

Plaintiff wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...
Being told what "your role is" is not slavery.

Then what is it?

If you are stripped of your personal freedoms and forced into a particular role, with non-compliance being punished by chemical lobotomy or death, then how are you anything other than a slave?

They are all slaves of Qun! But their mages are slaves 2x less than animals!