Why did everyone love ME1?
#176
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 09:09
#177
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 09:15
"oh, man, only the first album of that band is good"
"dude the first pirates movie was the best, the rest are just horrible"
"remember the first feeling when you played that game? yea it's gone now"
"only the season 1 of that series was good, they ruined after that"
it helps a person's egoism, it makes people feel that they are special if they have such an opinion
Modifié par Loaderini, 02 octobre 2012 - 09:17 .
#178
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 09:20
Loaderini wrote...
it is a kind of special power to love the first of everything:
"oh, man, only the first album of that band is good"
"dude the first pirates movie was the best, the rest are just horrible"
"remember the first feeling when you played that game? yea it's gone now"
"only the season 1 of that series was good, they ruined after that"
it helps a person's egoism, it makes people feel that they are special if they have such an opinion
You seem to be suggesting that things like Heroes' second season was better, that any of the Pirates movies were any good and something about music.
I put it to you that it you're merely only expanding your own ego by suggesting people who like the first game are wrong.
I bet you started with ME2.
#179
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 09:21
i have never watched Heroes
i liked all the Pirates movies, especially 2 and 3
i am trying to expand my own ego by making fun of the people who only like the first of every thing/movie/series season/music album/video game
Modifié par Loaderini, 02 octobre 2012 - 09:27 .
#180
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 09:42
ME has become one of my favourite games of all time. And I am jumping with joy that another Mass Effect game is coming! I do and still hate the ME3 endings, but that doesn't stop me from loving the series.
That day I realized to never judge a game by it's age rating and cover. This game reminded me of KoTOR. Keep it up Bioware!
I'm an unidentifiable internet user and this is my story.
#181
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 09:45
Loaderini wrote...
i am trying to expand my own ego by making fun of the people who only like the first of every thing/movie/series season/music album/video game
Granted that is a tereotype that exists but, and as with all stereotypes, it exists for a reason.
Modifié par LostHH, 02 octobre 2012 - 09:46 .
#182
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 01:26
Loaderini wrote...
it is a kind of special power to love the first of everything:
"oh, man, only the first album of that band is good"
"dude the first pirates movie was the best, the rest are just horrible"
"remember the first feeling when you played that game? yea it's gone now"
"only the season 1 of that series was good, they ruined after that"
this is not true for star wars. usually episode 5 and 6 make the race for the best (old trilogy) movie, leaving ep4 behind, which was the first.
and I liked season 4 of 24 the most
deep space nine the first 3 seasons were boring in comparison to the later ones.
#183
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 01:40
#184
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 03:33
The universe felt bigger too, ya planets were mostly wastelands but most were uninhabitable, you were there to complete a quick mission not explore a whole new world. I liked their different environments, was really cool when you land on a hellish planet and fire and brimstone are falling on you. The citadel was amazing in the game, huge with lots of stuff to do and see, was one of my favorite parts. Gameplay the game was very average, hey it was the first one, everything else about the game was exceptional though, above and beyond anything else at the time. Hell, I played ME1 for the first time in 2011 and I thought it was the best RPG I've played. ME2 was definitely a lot of fun but not quite as much, ME3 is really good, the 99% of it is fantastic, the last 1% a bit anticlimactic. Didn't like the auto dialogue, the ending was very confusing the EC helped out a lot, hope other DLC's expand and make the game superb.
Still, ME1 best game I've ever played, very original and unique minus a few things here and there. Best ending of a game I've ever played.
#185
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 04:22
But the game felt large, i'm replaying the whole series and ME2 feels genetic , you have a gang full of ppl shooting at you you duck then shoot or throw a power ,ME3 did get the combat right.
each had its own great thing about it
ME: story
ME: characters
ME:
#186
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 05:57
It was a game that I got lost in and played for hours at a time (sometimes too much time spent late into the night when I had to get up early the next day).
Sure, NOW it comes off as clunky but I still like it overall more than ME2 (I wont mention ME3 which I will pretend never happened at all. ME3 is the "Voldemort" of games - that which must not be named). ME2 had better graphics and improved squad play/control but ONLY because ME1 was there to learn from and improve from.
Modifié par Getorex, 02 octobre 2012 - 05:59 .
#187
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 07:22
Loaderini wrote...
it is a kind of special power to love the first of everything:
"oh, man, only the first album of that band is good"
"dude the first pirates movie was the best, the rest are just horrible"
"remember the first feeling when you played that game? yea it's gone now"
"only the season 1 of that series was good, they ruined after that"
it helps a person's egoism, it makes people feel that they are special if they have such an opinion
Pretty much sums up the "older is better" mentality
#188
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 08:10
1) I'm a sci-fi fan, born and raised. I love me some space opera, and ME1 is one of the best I've ever come across. It was also very clearly made by fellow fans.
2) Once ME1 established the rules of its universe (including more hard science than most space operas use), it stuck to 'em best it could. The sequels tend to play fast and loose with those rules.
3) Surprisingly female-friendly, moreso than most videogames and indeed most sci-fi. Female characters are plentiful, equal to the males, and seldom ever appear as eye-candy (and in the rare instances they are, it's lampshaded.) That went out the window the moment Miranda appeared, and don't get me started on Ashley's redesign for ME3.
4) The visuals. classic sci-fi design to the technology, and the uncharted worlds are unbridled scenery porn. The sequels are far too contemporary-looking, and take place on worlds that look basically the same.
5) Every system you can visit has somewhere to land and explore. I had to print out a list of side-mission worlds for ME2 because most systems are just for probes, which is SO. DAMN. BORING. I would so much rather take the Mako for a joyride.
6) Everyone has armor and helmets, and you can change and upgrade them.
7) There is no way to reach level 60 in a single game (the furthest I ever got was level 57), which means that there's room to grow further if I replay that character. It also makes me challenge myself, by taking out Thresher Maws or geth Colossi on foot, just for more experience points. The sequels give me no such incentives. If I replay a Shepard in ME2 or 3, it's only because I replayed her in ME1 and want to import the new stats.
8) The huge environments. We get more Citadel in ME1 than in both sequels combined, and Feros and Noveria each spend about 2 hours on what seems like a single environment from the moment you step off the Normandy until you're done fighting the big bad. The use of elevators as animated load screens was utter genius.
9) All the choices, from the dialogue to the mission resolutions, help you shape your Shepard to be the character you want. Your squadmates' lives may not rest on your choices for every mission, but those choices speak volumes about who your Shepard is.
10) The music. Each principal location had a distinct musical flavor (or several in the case of the Citadel). Play me a bit of one track and my brain immediately goes to that location. The music in the sequels is much more generic.
#189
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 08:50
Sure ME1 had some issues. Whether you liked the Mako or not is personal preference, but almost everyone agrees that the menu system was horrid, the combat was really lacking, and some of the missions went on far too long. ME2 definitely improved the combat and menu system, but kind of dumbed it down. I can see where ME3 tried correcting this by adding extra gear and mods, but looking back, it's really not the same game as ME1. I'm not entirely sure if that's a good thing or not.
I'm all for improvement though. Hopefully the next big game that Bioware plans to make will have ME1's spirit, ME2's character development, and ME3's menu and combat system.
#190
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 09:03
#191
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 09:09
ucdcsteve wrote...
ME1 was great in the way that it emphasized exploration and is the introduction of these fantastic alien races and characters. The music was really sci-fi specific and really set the mood. ME1 also gave you lots of ways to customize and upgrade your weapons, armor, and other gear. It was an RPG first, shooter second. The universe was deep and dynamic from the beginning and you couldn't help but get immersed.
Sure ME1 had some issues. Whether you liked the Mako or not is personal preference, but almost everyone agrees that the menu system was horrid, the combat was really lacking, and some of the missions went on far too long. ME2 definitely improved the combat and menu system, but kind of dumbed it down. I can see where ME3 tried correcting this by adding extra gear and mods, but looking back, it's really not the same game as ME1. I'm not entirely sure if that's a good thing or not.
I'm all for improvement though. Hopefully the next big game that Bioware plans to make will have ME1's spirit, ME2's character development, and ME3's menu and combat system.
#192
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 09:13
THE ENDING - oh.. it has it. Really.
#193
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 09:29
2nd RPG with some freedom to explore galaxy, unknow planets searching for lost object, distress calls, ancient civilization technology, resources or even to hunt some local creatures( i miss that so much in the later games...)
3rd, the gameplay, 3rd person rpg-action was "new" rpg gameplay, before that almost all were sword related.
didnt know much about the story, and after playing the game i loved it all. Also, some squadmembers were well writen and cool and loved the normandy.
#194
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 10:06

While hearing this(first minute only) :
I'd pay anything to see this kind of atmosphere and feeling again. They had something good with Mars in ME3. A nice atmosphere and beautiful soundtrack... what was only missing was driving around Mars to reach and/or leave the base to give that impression of being on a big alien planet instead of just walking around a base.
Noveria in ME1 wouldn't be the same without that part where you're driving between the civilian zone and the Rachni infested lab in snowy canyons and mountains. Same with Feros when you drive between Zhu's Hope and the Exo Geni building, when you gotta cross that giant destroyed bridge with huge abandoned towers above clouds all around you... it was quite something.
Modifié par Nicktendo, 02 octobre 2012 - 10:10 .
#195
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 10:09
Zaidra wrote...
ucdcsteve wrote...
ME1 was great in the way that it emphasized exploration and is the introduction of these fantastic alien races and characters. The music was really sci-fi specific and really set the mood. ME1 also gave you lots of ways to customize and upgrade your weapons, armor, and other gear. It was an RPG first, shooter second. The universe was deep and dynamic from the beginning and you couldn't help but get immersed.
Sure ME1 had some issues. Whether you liked the Mako or not is personal preference, but almost everyone agrees that the menu system was horrid, the combat was really lacking, and some of the missions went on far too long. ME2 definitely improved the combat and menu system, but kind of dumbed it down. I can see where ME3 tried correcting this by adding extra gear and mods, but looking back, it's really not the same game as ME1. I'm not entirely sure if that's a good thing or not.
I'm all for improvement though. Hopefully the next big game that Bioware plans to make will have ME1's spirit, ME2's character development, and ME3's menu and combat system.
Graphics-wise, ME2 was quite a bit better than ME1. Textures were vast improvements.
Given the nature of the change in weapon mechanics from ME1 to 2 I'd prefer they just drop the pretense and go with ammo instead of heat sinks. ME1 had a GOOD idea and system - all they needed to do was make it a bit more powerful (you had to dump all kinds of metal shavings into a target to do anything, when you could have dropped them with one shot from a good .45 or rifle with armor piercing ammo. I LIKED the mechanic of NOT being able to just hold the trigger down and spray all day. Having to balance heat buildup with firing rate. There SHOULD be real tradeoffs so you have to think or AIM rather than just hose down a target.
And let any future games NOT be swords and sorcery. Enough of that. Please, oh great Marauder Shields, not swords and sorcery.
Modifié par Getorex, 02 octobre 2012 - 10:16 .
#196
Posté 02 octobre 2012 - 11:45
#197
Posté 03 octobre 2012 - 02:12
Random Jerkface wrote...
I just finished a trilogy run a few days ago.KotorEffect3 wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Because nostalgia.
this. There is no way one can rationaly say it is better than ME 2/3
It's better.
And you are not rational.
#198
Posté 03 octobre 2012 - 04:34
KotorEffect3 wrote...
Random Jerkface wrote...
I just finished a trilogy run a few days ago.KotorEffect3 wrote...
Brovikk Rasputin wrote...
Because nostalgia.
this. There is no way one can rationaly say it is better than ME 2/3
It's better.
And you are not rational.
All I see you do is make disingenuous assumptions about people's reasons for preferring ME1, without actually responding directly to their points. Like making some ******-a** statement about how it's illogical or irrational to think the first game was better than the last two. What the hell kind of nonsense is that?
ME1 had stuff/did stuff better than the other two. It also did a worse job on other things. Some people really liked the stuff that it did better, thus the reason for their preference. There are those who enjoyed the composition of ME1 (with all its parts) more than ME2's or 3's, and by their definition, ME1 came closer to providing the perfect cinematic action-RPG experience than either of its sequels.
Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 03 octobre 2012 - 04:56 .
#199
Posté 03 octobre 2012 - 06:53
#200
Posté 03 octobre 2012 - 07:24
legion999 wrote...
Because it's a good game.
Yes it is, but so are the sequels





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