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I would like a Dalish Origin option in Dragon Age 3. It should be available for all classes.

Mage: You are from the Alerion clan.
               - You become your clan's First. On the night you get awarded the title of First during a celebration Templars attack your clan and capture your Keeper since she is a mage. You get knocked out trying to defend her and the Templars believe you are dead.

Warrior or Rogue: You are a top Hunter from the Alerion Clan.
                -You will be honored by your clan for discovering ancient Elven Ruins and some artifacts from the Elven past. Templars attack the clan seeking to capture mages and end up taking your Keeper and her First. You become overwhelm by the Templars and get knocked out.

Just some quick ideas. Will spend time editing and expanding them more but wanted to get this thread posted tonight.

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Feel free to add your own ideas for a Dalish Origin.

Modifié par KENNY4753, 01 octobre 2012 - 03:51 .


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I don't think they'd give an origin for a new character that could have so many different outcomes. I killed Zathrian's clan in DAO. It'd be easier if they just introduced another clan.

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I'd like to get through one Dragon Age game that doesn't have the option to slaughter a bunch of elves, Dalish or otherwise. At this rate the entire race will be extinct by Dragon Age 5.

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franciscoamell wrote...

I don't think they'd give an origin for a new character that could have so many different outcomes. I killed Zathrian's clan in DAO. It'd be easier if they just introduced another clan.

Yeah that's true. I wanted to use familiar faces though but any clan would do

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I want this!! I'd love to play as a Dalish mage. ^.^

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thats1evildude wrote...

I'd like to get through one Dragon Age game that doesn't have the option to slaughter a bunch of elves, Dalish or otherwise. At this rate the entire race will be extinct by Dragon Age 5.

But slaughtering elves is so fun.

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thats1evildude wrote...

I'd like to get through one Dragon Age game that doesn't have the option to slaughter a bunch of elves, Dalish or otherwise. At this rate the entire race will be extinct by Dragon Age 5.

I never said they all get killed. I just said Templars attack. Many may be wounded but I don't want them dead. Plus the only Dalish that died for me in DA2 was Merethari. The rest of the clan survived.

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To be fair, evildude, a lot of the time the dumbasses ask for it, like Merril's clan.

Though apparently we are stuck with being humans. Again. :|

I would greatly prefer to be Dalish.

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KAM12780 wrote...

I want this!! I'd love to play as a Dalish mage. ^.^

Me too. It should've been an option in DAO.

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franciscoamell wrote...

But slaughtering elves is so fun.

Slaughtering any condescending, self-rightenous git is fun. See Mother Petrice.

On topic, no. The Dalish hardly has anything to do with the main theme of DA3, which is Andrastian religious conflict.

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ISignIn wrote...

On topic, no. The Dalish hardly has anything to do with the main theme of DA3, which is Andrastian religious conflict.


I disagree. They have a lot to gain from this conflict, and similarly a fair deal to lose.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

ISignIn wrote...

On topic, no. The Dalish hardly has anything to do with the main theme of DA3, which is Andrastian religious conflict.


I disagree. They have a lot to gain from this conflict, and similarly a fair deal to lose.

I see it they they do have a lot to gain. The choas from the war gives them the oppurtunity to rise up in the world. They really don't have too much to lose.

Modifié par KENNY4753, 30 septembre 2012 - 01:14 .


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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

ISignIn wrote...

On topic, no. The Dalish hardly has anything to do with the main theme of DA3, which is Andrastian religious conflict.


I disagree. They have a lot to gain from this conflict, and similarly a fair deal to lose.


As do the dwarves. Lyrium trade is a big money maker for both groups, with both groups likely in higher demand do to the war efforts. Whoever can give them the most money for lyrium and who can help get the Darkspawn off their backs in the Deep Roads is who they will side with, with them most likely playing the middle as long as possible. 

Also, the Kossith have a lot to gain with this war, as it gives them a wide open chance at conquering large swaths of Thedas for the Qun. 

The war better not just be Mages vs. Templar, since there is so much opportunity for others to benefit/lose outside of those two groups. 

On topic: I'd love an Origin period, elf, dwarf, Kossith, human or otherwise. Multiple ones would be great. Anything other than just 'COMBAT! Care about the people you are with!' 

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I'm all for the dalish! Yes, x1000!

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I'm partial to city elves myself, but it would be nice to explore more of the Dalish culture as a denizen. Not just as a common hunter (like in DA:O), but maybe a Keeper's First or an craftsman or storyteller or halla tender.

I'd like to be from a new clan though. Like with Hawke's Amell connection, I think it's too much of a coincidence that each Hero in the first two (possibly three) DA games happen to run into the same two clans over and over. (Marethari's and Zathrien's/Lanaya's, that is.) If we get a familiar clan, I'd like it to be Velanna's.

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Faerunner wrote...

I'm partial to city elves myself, but it would be nice to explore more of the Dalish culture as a denizen and not just an outsider. Not just as a common hunter (like in DA:O), but maybe a Keeper's First or an craftsman or storyteller or halla tender.

The main character is supposed to be a fighter.

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Faerunner wrote...

I'm partial to city elves myself, but it would be nice to explore more of the Dalish culture as a denizen. Not just as a common hunter (like in DA:O), but maybe a Keeper's First or an craftsman or storyteller or halla tender.

I'd like to be from a new clan though. Like with Hawke's Amell connection, I think it's too much of a coincidence that each Hero in the first two (possibly three) DA games happen to run into the same two clans over and over. (Marethari's and Zathrien's/Lanaya's, that is.) If we get a familiar clan, I'd like it to be Velanna's.

Yeah Velanna's clan could work, plus there would probably be some comments about her and what happened which would be interesting to see their views.

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

ISignIn wrote...

On topic, no. The Dalish hardly has anything to do with the main theme of DA3, which is Andrastian religious conflict.


I disagree. They have a lot to gain from this conflict, and similarly a fair deal to lose.


As do the dwarves. Lyrium trade is a big money maker for both groups, with both groups likely in higher demand do to the war efforts. Whoever can give them the most money for lyrium and who can help get the Darkspawn off their backs in the Deep Roads is who they will side with, with them most likely playing the middle as long as possible. 

Also, the Kossith have a lot to gain with this war, as it gives them a wide open chance at conquering large swaths of Thedas for the Qun. 

The war better not just be Mages vs. Templar, since there is so much opportunity for others to benefit/lose outside of those two groups. 

On topic: I'd love an Origin period, elf, dwarf, Kossith, human or otherwise. Multiple ones would be great. Anything other than just 'COMBAT! Care about the people you are with!' 


All races can lose or benefit from this war depending on the side they choose and if their side will win or lose. Even after that who will decide if promisses made that made them choose sides will be kept...but that's something for DA4 maybe Posted Image.

The dwarves could be the strongest player in this power game weren't there the fact that they fight alot among themselves to gain power..Dwarves are known for their internal struggles and intrigues which make them vulnerable in terms of gaining the power in Thedas they can ultimatilly have.

And there are of course the darkspawn threatening their underground borders which they have to defend..

A lot of elves have turned on their 'old' religion and took the one the humans follow. The lore states that elves are easily influenced regarding their believes. The Dalish are growing smaller in number but are still a player in case a war starts and they join and pick a side.

If there would be origins in DA3 all those things could be tipped on like in DAO. Things have shifted ever since the period DAO played and adding them into the game could give great insight in the situation the elves, dwarves and maybe the kossith are right now.

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How exactly would this lead the PC becoming the leader of the Inquisition? In DAIII aren't we the Inquisitor, Leader of the new Inquisition?

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Wifflebottom wrote...

How exactly would this lead the PC becoming the leader of the Inquisition? In DAIII aren't we the Inquisitor, Leader of the new Inquisition?

That's why I said I just wanted to give some quick ideas and expand on them more. We don't exactly know how the whole Inquisition thing will happen so I didn't really want to do much with that right now.

These are just some ideas on how the war will affect you personally and then the real Inquisition thing will begin. Like I said since we don't know too much about the Inquisition and what it entails right now I didn't want to go into it.

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I could see any Origin story theorized on the forums so far resulting in the PC visiting Val Royeaux for the summit between Templar and Mage forces, which gets attacked and causes further tension and the investigation requiring the formation of the Inquisition.

Remember, the Inquisiiton would be a new group and it would require resourceful people with no ties to previous politics. So an up and coming new hero could easily be a new recruit and quickly advance through the ranks.

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I would love to have the chance to play as a Dalish Keeper, or a Second. It would be cool to see a Vallaslin (tattoo) being performed, would there be a ritual, or just put the ink on?

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Josielyn wrote...

I would love to have the chance to play as a Dalish Keeper, or a Second. It would be cool to see a Vallaslin (tattoo) being performed, would there be a ritual, or just put the ink on?

That's a good question. I wonder what exactly happens, I would guess there is some sort of ritual

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KENNY4753 wrote...

Josielyn wrote...

I would love to have the chance to play as a Dalish Keeper, or a Second. It would be cool to see a Vallaslin (tattoo) being performed, would there be a ritual, or just put the ink on?

That's a good question. I wonder what exactly happens, I would guess there is some sort of ritual


You're absolutely right, KENNY4753 :)  According to the wiki/codex on vallaslin, there is indeed ritual purification of the body and skin.  The tattooing itself is done by the Keeper in silence.  If the elf undergoing the process cries out, he or she is deemed unready and the ritual is halted.  If you like, the link is here

I'd be interested to see more about this myself, and discover the details of these purification rituals or even what they use in their ink :)

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

I could see any Origin story theorized on the forums so far resulting in the PC visiting Val Royeaux for the summit between Templar and Mage forces, which gets attacked and causes further tension and the investigation requiring the formation of the Inquisition.

Remember, the Inquisiiton would be a new group and it would require resourceful people with no ties to previous politics. So an up and coming new hero could easily be a new recruit and quickly advance through the ranks.


Agreed!  IMO, the premise of an Inquisition and general crisis could embrace any race/origin.  It seems to me that in a time of great change and possible disaster the Chantry would reasonably take help from anyone who could offer it :)

Modifié par WardenWade, 30 septembre 2012 - 04:28 .