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[garrusfan1]

 Alright when your making female characters make them look more like saskia (from the witcher 2) then jack from ME2 by that I mean don't make them go into battle half naked a little suggestive is fine but it gets ridiculous after a point. I am a guy and I still think it is stupid to make them so edgy. Issabela from DA2 should be as far as you go in matters of how they are dressed. Does anyone agree with me

Edit the past dragon age games have done well with this so I want them to keep it that way.

Modifié par garrusfan1, 30 septembre 2012 - 04:06 .

[David Gaider]

I'm personally rather pleased with how the DA Art team approaches our female character design. I couldn't really care less whether someone thinks Aveline is too mannish or Isabela too sexy-- their appearance suited their characters and their roles, and as long as there's a spectrum of representation in what we're showing I'm pretty happy with it.

[Allan Schumacher]

I echo Rosa's perspective a lot (Isabela is far and away my favourite NPC in DA2), and I'd say Aveline is right up there (easily my second favourite).

Kudos to the Isabela writer (I actually don't know who did it off the top of my head lol) that head faked everyone with a stereotype and delivered something excellent.

[Allan Schumacher]

easygame88 wrote...

I think Bioware does a pretty decent job with their female characters. I think Miranda is the only character that had me shaking my head every time she (or her butt did anyway) showed up on screen

Isabela was good but I think they kind of overdid it with her "adventurous" personality and attire. I mean no pants? Come on. I found Aveline far more sexy than her.

Ashley in ME1 is my all-time favourite female character in any medium. Damn shame they couldn't hold on to the same writer and look for ME3.

Aside from Miranda's copious camera angle, I actually don't have much issue with her as a character idea.  Although the idea that "life is so hard because I'm so perfect" is a tough perspective to empathize with, which I think makes her more difficult to identify with.  It was a challenging idea for a writer to tackle, IMO.


I also really like Ashley from ME1 as well

[Allan Schumacher]

I don't know about the head faking thing. Isabela was an excellent character, but she's one of BioWare's most stereotypical. She's the sexy female pirate and I knew exactly what sort of character she'd be the moment I saw her in The Hanged Man.

I disagree that she's just "the sexy female pirate." She comes across as simply "token woman for sex appeal" but is a much deeper character than her bravado exterior lets on. Especially with Rivalry IMO.

[Allan Schumacher]

If that was the idea at all. Myself, I never bought into the perfection angle as her writing strategy: not least because I'd expect social skills to be a pretty important part of 'perfection', and Miranda (is deliberatly written to) gives a semi-hostile first impression. An exceptionally skilled person who holds to exceptional standards? Sure. More than that?

Interesting point. Though I suppose one could say that the distinction could be made about being physically perfect and "socially perfect."

Barring preventing Miranda from having the ability to exercise free well, she's also the genetic engineering project of someone that could easily have lacked in social graces himself.

I knew it would never be, but I honestly found myself hoping that Miranda only faked being turned by Shepard against Cerberus. Miranda actually being a true believer who just acted in a way to appeal to the player's ego, making you think you had thawed the ice queen and flipped her against her loyalties, would have been an actual surprise nd something I would have applauded.

I would have loved this. Though seeing the reaction Jacob had (which while still believable, stung to players that romanced Jacob) it would have been even more of a shark tank on the ME3 forums I think haha.

[Allan Schumacher]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

If that was the idea at all. Myself, I never bought into the perfection angle as her writing strategy: not least because I'd expect social skills to be a pretty important part of 'perfection', and Miranda (is deliberatly written to) gives a semi-hostile first impression. An exceptionally skilled person who holds to exceptional standards? Sure. More than that?

Interesting point. Though I suppose one could say that the distinction could be made about being physically perfect and "socially perfect."

Barring preventing Miranda from having the ability to exercise free well, she's also the genetic engineering project of someone that could easily have lacked in social graces himself.

Ah, but then she wouldn't be perfect, would she?

Call it a personal thing, but I'm of the breed that considers mental health just as important as physical health for soldiers and the sort. Good bodies with bad minds don't do good work, and emotionally inept/traumatized children don't make perfect soldiers.

What constitutes a "perfect" soldier depends on who's doing the assessing I think

[Allan Schumacher]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

What constitutes a "perfect" soldier depends on who's doing the assessing I think

I find that psychological breakdowns, treason, and/or daddy issues are a minus.

True.  But you didn't create Miranda.  Her father did.  In creating the perfect soldiers, he'll worry about what qualifications he thinks makes her perfect, not Dean the Young's.

[Allan Schumacher]

I use the term NPC very deliberately, because I wasn't just referring to companions, but all players that aren't the hero (whom I typically refer to as the PC).

[Allan Schumacher]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Like Iman, she'd charm another prisoner out of their coat.  Or kick his ass and take it, like Shatner.

That's right.  Isabela could be like either of them, she's that awesome.

I.  Do not think. That. Isabella. Can really.  Talk.  Like this.