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[garrusfan1]

Mr.house compare that to jack in ME2 saskia comes off looking like a nun. It isn't a big deal (this thread i wanted to see if others agree with me

[garrusfan1]

GodWood wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...
I can't so I will just say I was wrong

Yay!

You win by default 

[MillKill]

Foolsfolly wrote...

MillKill wrote...

Didn't they do just what you're asking for with Aveline, Bethany, and Merrill?

Pretty much.

ME2 had some funny clothing choices for the female characters (and Jacob. He goes into battle apparently in spandex). But really the guys did a lot better in ME3. Liara and Ashley both have more of a clothed look which you can totally ignore and change their skin to be armor based. Which I always do. I don't think a lab coat or a skirt should be worn when you're going into battle against heavily armored Cerberus troops or skyscraper tall sapient warships.

Call me old fashioned.

And so I always keep them armored up. Sure EDI's weird catsuit camel-toe is surely weird. But a sexualized robot is weird anyway.

This leads me to believe that until I see designs showing otherwise that BioWare will have their women dressed for combat and not 14 year old boys. In fact the leaked concept art all had armored and fully clothed people in it.

I tend to agree with you. Samara is the only Bioware character whose design was gratuitously Stripperific. For the most part Bioware is pretty good about this sort of thing and much better than almost any other RPG developer.

[upsettingshorts]

garrusfan1 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...
I can't so I will just say I was wrong

Yay!

You win by default 

It's more that folks who claim Aveline is mannish lose by default.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 30 septembre 2012 - 04:01 .

[Lithuasil]

MillKill wrote...


I tend to agree with you. Samara is the only Bioware character whose design was gratuitously Stripperific. For the most part Bioware is pretty good about this sort of thing and much better than almost any other RPG developer.

Remember the leather armor in Origins? 

[NKKKK]

BIOWARE LOVES MAKING THE SEXEH FEMALES.

[garrusfan1]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

GodWood wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...
I can't so I will just say I was wrong

Yay!

You win by default 

It's more that folks who claim Aveline is mannish lose by default.

I will say this about her she would have been a better LI then merril I had her as an LI once and I felt sick because I thought she would change a little as an LI but she still seemed to be 13 years old

[Chromie]

Mr.House wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Saskia had a horrible character design.

I meant that as it wasn't too revealing 

Half her chest was fricken showing for crying outloud, even the strap was loose. Saskia is not a mage, or something who uses sneaking, she is a warrior, like Aveline. At least Aveline wore proper armor, Saskia's armor was a joke.

Saskia is a dragon. She is vulnerable but she can also heal fast no I'm not defending the design choice but she isn't exactly delicate so it never bothered me.

At least it's not as bad as this. Samara is even bustier than Saskia.

Modifié par Skelter192, 30 septembre 2012 - 04:07 .

[MillKill]

Lithuasil wrote...

MillKill wrote...


I tend to agree with you. Samara is the only Bioware character whose design was gratuitously Stripperific. For the most part Bioware is pretty good about this sort of thing and much better than almost any other RPG developer.

Remember the leather armor in Origins? 

That Dalish armor was not a part of any prominent character's core design. The regular Leather armor looked rather strange, but all of the armor in Origins looked pretty terrible.

[hadrain77]

Someone didn't enter the harpy cave or missed Saskia's dream, she may have had armour on but her characterization is nothing compared to Miranda.

Modifié par hadrain77, 30 septembre 2012 - 04:09 .

[Mr.House]

Skelter192 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Saskia had a horrible character design.

I meant that as it wasn't too revealing 

Half her chest was fricken showing for crying outloud, even the strap was loose. Saskia is not a mage, or something who uses sneaking, she is a warrior, like Aveline. At least Aveline wore proper armor, Saskia's armor was a joke.

Saskia is a dragon. She is vulnerable but she can also heal fast no I'm not defending the design choice but she isn't exactly delicate.

At least it's not as bad as this. I find Miranda and Saskia to be equal even with all the closeups on her ass.

Don't like Miranda or Jacks outfit in combat(only on the ship I like), I liek Isabela's outfit for many reasons, reasons I have said many times.

Saskia being a dragon is a lame excuse, more so when she does not want peopel to know she is one. She is wearing heavy armor, suit up properly if you're going to fight as a warrior.

[garrusfan1]

hadrain77 wrote...

Someone didn't enter the harpy cave or missed Saskia's dream, she may have had armour on but her characterization is nothing compared to Miranda.

Uh what 

[Anarya]

Sexy or revealing outfits are not bad across the board, you have to consider who's wearing it and why. Jack's designs for ME2 and 3 are completely appropriate for her character, and Miranda's skintight suit is appropriate for hers. Same deal for Isabela. 

Samara on the other hand, has no reason to have her boobs out. It's gratuitous and pandering.

Modifié par Anarya, 30 septembre 2012 - 04:14 .

[Chromie]

Mr.House wrote...
Don't like Miranda or Jacks outfit in combat(only on the ship I like), I liek Isabela's outfit for many reasons, reasons I have said many times.

I don't venture into the DA forums much  so I wouldn't know and if there is any character that screams "sex object" it's Isabella.  

Mr.House wrote...
Saskia being a dragon is a lame excuse, more so when she does not want peopel to know she is one. She is wearing heavy armor, suit up properly if you're going to fight as a warrior.

Like I said I don't care for CDPR's tiny design choice but it doesn't bother me since there is far worse in Bioware games imo. 

Modifié par Skelter192, 30 septembre 2012 - 04:15 .

[MillKill]

Anarya wrote...

Sexy or revealing outfits are not bad across the board, you have to consider who's wearing it and why. Jack's designs for ME2 and 3 are completely appropriate for her character, and Miranda's skintight suit is appropriate for hers. Same deal for Isabela. 

Samara on the other hand, has no reason to have her boobs out. It's gratuitous and pandering.

Precisely. If it fits the character, fine. But Samara was a Celibate Warrior Monk with a skintight catsuit and tons of cleavage. It just didn't fit. Still, that's the only character design I've seen from Bioware that really made me roll my eyes.

[iSignIn]

Saskia is the only female character I found attractive in Witcher 2 (and a lot of it is because she's a cute dragon). So I hope BioWare can do better than that.

Modifié par iSignIn, 30 septembre 2012 - 04:20 .

[ObserverStatus]

Female characters in Dragon Age 3 should dress like this. Confederate Marine Corp powered combat suits are hella cool.

Modifié par bobobo878, 30 septembre 2012 - 04:31 .

[Arch1eviathan]

JusticarFlareon wrote...

None of the female DA2 characters went into battle half-naked. Isabela was dressed pretty conservatively compared to many other females in different games.

She didn't wear pants...

[TsaiMeLemoni]

While some of the more skimpy outfits can be simply ridiculous, I focus less on what the game creators put characters in so much as the actual character they build.

[Foolsfolly]

bobobo878 wrote...

Female characters in Dragon Age 3 should dress like this. Confederate Marine Corp powered combat suits are hella cool.

StarCraft Medics are hot.

Fact. And they don't need to show any skin at all under those 10 ton power-armor suits to be hot either.

[M2S SOLID JOSH]

isnt the point to dress like that was to use it as a weapon? forgot the exact qoute but sex whether seeing a girl half naked of actual sex can always be used as a weapon.

[Anarya]

MillKill wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Sexy or revealing outfits are not bad across the board, you have to consider who's wearing it and why. Jack's designs for ME2 and 3 are completely appropriate for her character, and Miranda's skintight suit is appropriate for hers. Same deal for Isabela. 

Samara on the other hand, has no reason to have her boobs out. It's gratuitous and pandering.

Precisely. If it fits the character, fine. But Samara was a Celibate Warrior Monk with a skintight catsuit and tons of cleavage. It just didn't fit. Still, that's the only character design I've seen from Bioware that really made me roll my eyes.

EDI makes me eyeroll too, but there are things about her default appearance that I find pleasing aesthetically so I feel a bit conflicted about it. There's not much reason for her to look like a sexbot though. 

[ademska]

M2S SOLID JOSH wrote...

isnt the point to dress like that was to use it as a weapon? forgot the exact qoute but sex whether seeing a girl half naked of actual sex can always be used as a weapon.

i'm sure saskia and every other scantily-clad close-quarters combat fighter appreciates this addition to their arsenal.

i bet it's just as effective as actual weapons.

[RosaAquafire]

Skelter192 wrote...
I don't venture into the DA forums much  so I wouldn't know and if there is any character that screams "sex object" it's Isabella. 

Because I apparently never get tired of making this point:

I'm 100% anti objectification of women in games and one would probably disdainfully call me a "radical feminist," but I think that Isabela is a HUGE step forward and an extremely progressive character.

1. She's not just busty, she's thick. She has big thighs and a bootlicious, curvy figure that's more in line with plus sized models than with implants. Keep in mind she wears a corset. Different body types is awesome and good.

2. She's sex positive and fiercely independant. A romanced Isabela is never "tamed," and she's possibly the first sexy video game female who's treated primarily as a character. It's extremely empowering to see a female character who loves sex. She has banters where she states that she frequently gets called slurs for it but doesn't give a crap because she knows who she is and loves who she is. That's not sex object, that's fierce.

3. She's a woman of colour, and it's awesome seeing important, plot central, "default love interest" women who aren't white. (Less awesome is how official CG renders and marketting whitewashed her like hell.)

4. ISABELA dresses in a corset and tunic and no pants. What do I mean? I mean that BIOWARE didn't dress Isabela that way, unlike Samara or Miranda or even Morrigan, though that one is debatable. I fully believe that Isabela wakes up in the morning and decides that she's going to wear that and she loves wearing it. She's one of the few "sexy" female characters who I actually BELIEVE chooses to wear those clothes, and that's awesome.

Short version, sexy, sensual, busty women exist in the real world. Unforunately, most sexy, sensual, busty women in games aren't fully formed, well thought out characters, but sex dolls posed and designed for the male gaze. If Bioware writes a sexy, sensual, busty character who is an actual character, where the sexy, sensual, busty stuff comes from somewhere and is a PART of her and then actually explores self-worth and indepedence and sex positivity in dialogue, that's not a sex object. That's awesome.

[Todd23]

GodWood wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...
I can't so I will just say I was wrong

Yay!

This made me think of the post-partum depresion scene from Brickleberry.