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Should past Love interest be locked out in Da3 for saves with ultimate sacrifice wardens?


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#1
Emzamination

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I'm torn on this subject...On one hand I want my LI to mourn my warden into old age and beyond never being able to love another again but on the other hand...I realize that maybe I'm being selfish and they should be able to possibly move on to find new happiness with the new protagonist should they appear in Da3 seeing as my dead warden can no longer provide the succor for the heart and soul they require.

Lamens terms:  While I want leliana to move on, I can't help but feel she'd still be unfaithful to my warden if she were to potentially get romantically involved with this new girl even tho my warden's dead.

Thoughts?

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Allan Schumacher

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It's betrayal on her part because she proclaimed the warden the love her life.To move on to another is a blantant betrayal on an emotional level.


Is it a betrayal to the Warden, or a betrayal to Emazmination?

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David Gaider

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I think that we writers would be reluctant to have a character be romanceable in more than one game for one simple fact: revisiting a romance plot would seem incredibly stale, unless the character had transformed into someone else completely. We've already done that story.

And then we'd also get into a situation where a player is angry because they're betraying their old PC, and violating headcanon-- which, quite frankly, would give us all of two seconds hesitation if it weren't for the other point. Why tweak the people who would be all weird about it, when it's not something that would particularly excite us in the first place?

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David Gaider

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Emzamination wrote...
I could bother to correct all your inconsistencies starting with maric being held prisoner in antiva, but then again it would be far quicker to kill your entire argument by asking for sources on David's statements which I know you can't provide because David isn't talking about Da3's story or setting at all. Sources?


You might want to desist in speaking with authority on what is and isn't canon. I have spoken on this topic numerous times previously, and assuming you know what's what based on what you assume to be true is bound to make you look foolish. Just a suggestion.

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David Gaider

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Upsettingshorts wrote...
You don't have join with a Fade spirit to become someone else over time, though. Things change, people change.


Sure.

Or we could write a brand new romance story for someone different, someone who doesn't have baggage.

I'm not saying we'd never do it-- violating headcanon en masse would be rather fun-- but I can think of better ways to spend my time writing than figuring out how to reinvent a romance.

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David Gaider

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Emzamination wrote...
And still nothing? That's what I thought,Gaider.Don't ever think you're too high and mighty to provide sources to back up your claims like everyone else on this forum-- Failing to do so might make you look foolish. just a suggestion.


I happen to work, rather than hanging out on the forums all day-- so if I don't respond to a post you've made, it's very possibly because I'm not paying attention atm and not because I'm quaking in my boots and fearful of responding.

Insofar as "providing sources", I don't need to provide evidence of my own statements, thank you very much. I am the source. I determine what is canon and what is not, and am simply suggesting-- very politely-- that you not act towards your fellow posters as if you need to have your assumptions disproven. Having not seen my previous statements, you can either look for them yourself, claim ignorance or state what you'd like to see happen. Those are your options.

Modifié par David Gaider, 02 octobre 2012 - 04:17 .


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David Gaider

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Emzamination wrote...
Sorry word of gaider doesn't hold the same weight as written text in a dispute between fourmites as you can go either way.


You may not believe someone when they come and tell you I've said something previously, that's fine.

When *I* come and tell you I've said something previously and that your bullying of your fellow posters is based on false assumptions, treating me like I'm some poster who doesn't know what he's talking about is sheer arrogance.

You are on your last leg here. Choose your next words carefully.

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John Epler

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This whole tangent is wrinkling my brain.

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John Epler

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Let me point out that basic respect and decency are not signs of a 'bootlicking fanboy', but rather someone who understands the point of a discussion forum. Inability to act with such virtues in mind will get you a vacation from the forums.

Modifié par John Epler, 02 octobre 2012 - 04:29 .


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John Epler

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Thread unlocked, btw, as long as we get away from this absurd tangent where someone has to source their own past statements to give their own current statements weight.

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David Gaider

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DuskWarden wrote...
Not true. People aren't perfect, and you can't expect the guy to remember every single detail of every thing he's ever written. Whilst he can certainly change the 'canon' of previous DA games for future games, that doesn't change what happened in that game.


It's true that I have an imperfect memory-- this isn't about facts or what we've done in the past, however. This is about what qualifies as canon, and our intentions for the future. I think even my addled old brain is still good for that.

I think that having previous romance options available to romance as a new protagonist would be more trouble than it's worth. Part of the fun is exploring a whole new character and not knowing what makes them tick.


Agreed. If there was something new to explore with an old character, then we'd be all for it (and this applies to more than just romances). Otherwise, there's no point beyond retreading old ground.