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[davepissedatending]

For me it was just ok after the ec

[Cashmoney007]

The ending for me always had to be destroy because I didn't care for the other endings. I waited for the EC got the ending I wanted and that was it.  I didn't love it.  But it didn't make me want to threaten Bioware either.  I didn't care either way if they came out with the EC or not.  I just laughed that people actually went to the FTC and felt that Bioware betrayed them.  

Modifié par Cashmoney007, 01 octobre 2012 - 09:14 .

[dorktainian]

[Jawsomebob]

Davik Kang wrote...

Good day.

Personally I thought the ending was pretty amazing.  The whole reason I signed up here was to talk about the ending and the series as a whole some more, because I thought it was so clever and had so many talking points.

I was so excited by the ending that the ME series went from one that I really enjoyed as a really good series of games, to becoming one of my favourite video game experiences ever.  (Been playing for a long time btw).  And I was really looking forward to learning about other players' interpretations of it all.

So I was disappointed to find that lots of people, including, it would seem, most people on this forum, found the ending to be pretty unsatisfying.  And furthermore, that a very big proportion of those actually think the ending is flat out terrible.

I have been effectively banned from the "Do The Right Thing" thread, because certain members felt that the thread was only for players who didn't like the ending to make suggestions for how it could be improved.  So I made this thread so that people who did like the ending could talk about why.

By the way I am not claiming that the whole game is awesome - in fact there are a number of things that I thought were not great, or even bad - but the focus of this thread is meant to be what players liked about the ending of ME3.

I have posted loads already across the forum on all the reasons I loved it, so I won't post it all again (at least, not in the OP).  I'll check back on here tomorrow.

The ending for mass effect 3 was good as a ENDING for Mass effect 3. NOT as an ending for the mass effect trilogy. Also the ending ignores geth and quarian peace or curing the genophage. The ending as an ending to the trilogy gets an F no matter what because it ignores core themes of the trilogy. A an ending or mass effect 3 it gets a D+ or D- depending on the color you choose. If they removed the geth and quarian peace and curing the genophage I would give the ending a B. However it barely passes as an ending for mass effect 3 and no matter what fails as an ending to the trilogy even if you didnt have geth and wuarian peace or cure the genopage. 

[ShepComing4U]

IsaacShep wrote...

What choices? People throw this like a slogan without even thinking about it

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I can name a few. Rachni Queen, Collector Base, Cerberus, EMS, and more. People attack this slogan without even thinking about it. 

Modifié par ShepComing4U, 01 octobre 2012 - 09:43 .

[Siirlock]

And I mean if you think about it logically, Shepard has been placed against impossible odds time and time again. The fact that he/she even made it this far is a miracle on it's own, there was no way for this to have a true disney ending. It's that realistic touch, that heart wrenching sacrifice, that truly made the ending worthy of the series.

I strongly agree with this sentiment.

[Mazebook]

ShepComing4U wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

What choices? People throw this like a slogan without even thinking about it

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I can name a few. Rachni Queen, Collector Base, Cerberus, EMS, and more. People attack this slogan without even thinking about it. 

well...the reaper Rachni queen wil betray you...the collector base makes control possible with low ems, ems determens the availability and success of the endings. don´t know what you mean with cerberus.

so there is that...

At the OP...there is a nice support thread also here if you want to read it .

[GhostShadow115]

Just search "TUN Mass Effect ending" on YouTube and you will now the problems with the endings.

[Mcfly616]

LucasShark wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

LucasShark wrote...

No, it was not: it did not function as the ending to a narrative, therefore it was not a good ending.

All the spectacle in the world, emotional emo piano music and pretenciousness can't solve that.

"If I use words like Narrative and pretenciousness my opinion is more intelligent and valid"

No, it means I have a vocabulary.

and you also have....your opinion. Which is all your post is. An opinion. Not a fact. Don't get it twisted.

[Mcfly616]

Siirlock wrote...

And I mean if you think about it logically, Shepard has been placed against impossible odds time and time again. The fact that he/she even made it this far is a miracle on it's own, there was no way for this to have a true disney ending. It's that realistic touch, that heart wrenching sacrifice, that truly made the ending worthy of the series.

I strongly agree with this sentiment.

yeah, I always expected Shepard to pay the ultimate price. I was dreading it(understandably). But, I knew it was highly likely he would. It was not surprising, considering he was facing the greatest threat in galactic history.

I never understood people that complain about it. "Waaah, everything didn't play out exactly how I imagined it, the ending sucks!" Lol how could anyone know how it all plays out besides Bioware? Funny to see people pretend that they have some knowledge that the game was building to something completely different than what it was. And then they scream "this isnt what Mass Effect was about! It's about overcoming impossible odds." Lol well you did overcome impossible odds, just not how you saw it in your dreams. Cry some more. Mass Effect had many themes, I find it funny when people try to say that there was an "overall" main theme.

[Seival]

It's good to see people, who appreciate BioWare's work and opinion.

And it's not pleasent to see haters around. Maybe BioWare should create separated thread for haters, so they can vent their steam without disturbing fans?

[Fredvdp]

Parts of the ending were good, other parts were bad. I think introducing the Catalyst so late in the game without any foreshadowing was a bad idea (Leviathan fixed this). If I were to rewrite ME3, I'd merge Vendetta and the Catalyst.

Bit I liked Anderson's death, Sam Hulick's music, and the bitterness of the original endings. The one thing I disliked the most about the extended cut is that they rebuild the mass relays. I wanted the galactic civilizations to evolve using their own technology.

[Comsky159]

I'm with you OP

My predominant problem remains with the Priority Earth mission in general; the scope is very underwhelming there.

Modifié par Comsky159, 01 octobre 2012 - 11:38 .

[Podge 90]

If you think a set of slides was a good way to end the Mass Effect trilogy you're very easily pleased.

Come on, slides? MMMMM DAT SATISFACTION

[Comsky159]

LucasShark wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

LucasShark wrote...

No, it was not: it did not function as the ending to a narrative, therefore it was not a good ending.

All the spectacle in the world, emotional emo piano music and pretenciousness can't solve that.

"If I use words like Narrative and pretenciousness my opinion is more intelligent and valid"

No, it means I have a vocabulary.

Yeah... it's spelt 'pretentious'. 

[tracesaint]

I like the endings, but they are not flawless. I've said before that I understand why they did what they did...but it was still the easy way out. I still don't know how Anderson followed me to the beam, he didn't look fatally wounded when I got there. I think having the Illusive Man pull a much less powerful Saren shot to the head was lame. Although the extended cut helps, now the Catalyst repeats himself about 3 times.
I was not a writer on the game though, and the way it ended is the way it ended. I try to avoid thinking about it as a consumer.

[Zso_Zso]

Does this invalidate IT ?

[Davik Kang]

MegaSovereign wrote...
Do you honestly think people who hate the endings will let this thread go?

Of course not!  It was actually just a little experiment to see how long it would last before it was trolled to death.  So to see quite a few reasonable points for both sides was quite surprising!  In a good way of course.

I was expecting more of this ilk...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...
When your ending puts more value in symbolism than common sense, it has failed. And ME3's ending failed horribly.

Shepard Cmdr wrote...
... Anyone who does not have the slightest problem with the ending, is either delusional or lying.

N7_Prothean95 wrote...
The ending is ****. END OF THE STORY !

And a few odd ones...

3DandBeyond wrote...
...I do totally disagree with your OP and won't post here. 

Er...


Unfortunately it does seem that the majority on this forum dislike the endings.  And a lot of the reasons I do agree with.  The main ones seem to be the lack of impact of your choices on the ending, and lack of closure of the ending sequences.  I want to post a few things about these in a bit...

[drayfish]

Mcfly616 wrote...

yeah, I always expected Shepard to pay the ultimate price. I was dreading it(understandably). But, I knew it was highly likely he would. It was not surprising, considering he was facing the greatest threat in galactic history.

I never understood people that complain about it. "Waaah, everything didn't play out exactly how I imagined it, the ending sucks!" Lol how could anyone know how it all plays out besides Bioware? Funny to see people pretend that they have some knowledge that the game was building to something completely different than what it was. And then they scream "this isnt what Mass Effect was about! It's about overcoming impossible odds." Lol well you did overcome impossible odds, just not how you saw it in your dreams. Cry some more. Mass Effect had many themes, I find it funny when people try to say that there was an "overall" main theme.

Seival wrote...

It's good to see people, who appreciate BioWare's work and opinion.

And it's not pleasent to see haters around. Maybe BioWare should create separated thread for haters, so they can vent their steam without disturbing fans?

This thread was meant to be a positive expression of appreciation for the endings, and without provocation it has been hijacked by spiteful mocking and a longing for censorship?

Is this really the level of discourse now?

I'm not sure Bioware would feel honoured by such sentiments from their 'fans'.

Modifié par drayfish, 01 octobre 2012 - 12:45 .

[Davik Kang]

drayfish wrote...
This thread was meant to be a positive expression of appreciation for the endings, and without provocation it has been hijacked by spiteful mocking and a longing for censorship?

Is this really the level of discourse now?

I'm not sure Bioware would feel honoured by such sentiments from their 'fans'.

Whoa!  Your intentions are good, thanks for trying to keep the bad feeling down, but this could inadvertently start another flame war.

I know that the two members you quoted have been subjected to a lot of antagonism even within the last few days (not going to go into whether it was justified, please don't here!!) which might explain the apparent aggression of their posts, but really they're just trying to defend what they liked about the game.  And that can be hard on here because for every person who says the ending was good, 10 will come at out and call them fools, logical points or no.

Modifié par Davik Kang, 01 octobre 2012 - 12:59 .

[Davik Kang]

Siirlock wrote...I happen to like the endings also. While I do think ME3 has a number of flaws, some of them pretty severe, I do not count the endings among them.

Cool, me too.

iTallaNT wrote...

Well to be honest the original endings weren't all that bad in my opinion. However there were incredibly choppy and confusing, and at multiple points left me saying "wtf". Like during the mission to get to the beam and everyone was wiped out but you and Anderson, because of this I was certain my two teammates were dead. Yet loa and behold they magically ended up walking off the crashed Normandy, unscathed with no explanation as to how they even got there. '9~9

Needless to say the EC managed to fix quite a few of these issues and made the game a lot more complete as a whole by providing closure. And I mean if you think about it logically, Shepard has been placed against impossible odds time and time again. The fact that he/she even made it this far is a miracle on it's own, there was no way for this to have a true disney ending. It's that realistic touch, that heart wrenching sacrifice, that truly made the ending worthy of the series.

But don't get me wrong, even with the extended cut there were still quite a few things that were not really addressed-- such as the (overly pointed out) war assets. The thing I found the most frustrating was the fact that you couldn't destroy the reapers and save EDI/the geth. Because I don't know about you, but I busted my ass to help legion and end the war between the geth/quarians in the 2nd and 3rd game. Not to mention I love EDI and would not have even been able to get as far as I did without her. She's my friend, I don't want to kill her. But at the same time I mother F'n hate the reapers, After all the terrible **** they put the my shepard, her companions, and galaxy through, how on Earth could I justify letting them live? Yet the only way to ensure all of my friends lived... was to do just that, which felt like a total slap to the face.

Yeah I agree with all of this.  It's also a relief to see that you did think about and care about the actions you took and their consequences.  For me this was one of the reasons why I enjoyed the ending, because it didn't just give us an easy answer, and made us reflect on many of the choices we made so far.  So it's sad to see that this actually made you dislike the endings.  You're definitely not alone on that either.

RainbowDazed wrote...
I support this thread. It'd be great to hear more opinions from people who like the ending. Maybe it'd help me understand why some people can be happy with it while other's can not.

Me too.  And, despite the OP I made, I do want to hear from those who didn't like it too, as long as there are reasons given and we all acknowledge that, ultimately, it's just our opinions.

Modifié par Davik Kang, 01 octobre 2012 - 12:59 .

[Twinzam.V]

@Davik Kang

So you like the endings. Good for you and i respect your opinion.
Personally i didnt like the endings and i hope you'll respect my own opinion.
Since i belive you have good intentions with this topic instead some that are made just to say "You didnt get it." or "You're a crying baby cuz you didnt like the endings.".

Modifié par Twinzam.V, 01 octobre 2012 - 01:02 .

[N7 Shadow 90]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

I thought the ME3 endings were very interesting. I love things that make me think about them, and the lessons/morals they portray, after they happen. Also, N7 Shadow 90, I joined that group.

Always good to have more people joining!

[Dr_Extrem]

well ... my boss (russian chemist) knows a good saying:

"you may make pralines out of s**t but then you have got s****y pralines."


just because the endings are a bit clearer now, does not mean they make more sense.



i will see this game finished, the moment the last dlc comes out - everything before that is speculation.

[Davik Kang]

Xellith wrote...

Davik Kang wrote...
By the way I am not claiming that the whole game is awesome - in fact there are a number of things that I thought were not great, or even bad

Priority London I'm guessing. 

Actually no!  It didn't make total logical sense (that's barely debateable) but I enjoyed that mission a lot, and didn't notice much of the realism problems at the time.  The Normandy evac bit did seem a bit odd for multiple reasons (we've all gone over them 1000 times), but I now see it was part of the EC content, which explains why it's there at least.

Twinzam.V wrote...

@Davik Kang

So you like the endings. Good for you and i respect your opinion.
Personally i didnt like the endings and i hope you'll respect my own opinion.
Since i belive you have good intentions with this post instead some that are made just to say "You didnt get it." or "You're a crying baby cuz you didnt like the endings.".

Thanks.