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What do you think will happen if you tell Morrigan to get stuffed with the Dark Ritual or accepted her offer?


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KiwiQuiche

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Since loads of folks seem to think the Old God Baby will be a big thing in DA3, what do you think/want the repercussions to be if you did or did not go along with it?

If you are a male Warden who romances Morrigan you do of course get the option of going with her through the Eluvian to be a big happy supernatural family together until everything goes crazy.

If you just sleep with her to save your skin and are on friendly terms, you can part in a good manner, permitting her to leave unscathed and with a goodbye (you can also pick this option if you romanced her). Or you can give her a ganking, which doesn't even kill her and probably makes her dislike you a bit. And maybe her son will dislike you as well later on.

Morrigan has no interest in nicking Fereldan's throne- she said as much before the ritual and during Witch Hunt. Perhaps they'll get in a punch up with Flemeth? Even if you killed her in DAO, her actions in DA2 save her and you don't have an option of killing her then (pity) and Morrigan basically says Flemeth is going to be some trouble down the road. Assuming you believe Morrigan of course.

So what do you think those 2 (or 3) are gonna do in DA3? Obviously the Old God Baby can't be the protagonist; he's a canon male and I doubt Bioware will take away gender choice. If you refuse the ritual, Morrigan doesn't have this trump card and how do you think this will affect DA3?
Or do you think it'll be like the Rachni choice in ME3? Claimed to have huge consequences but in the end nothing really happened.

For me, I think the two will have a bit of an impact, either by causing loads of trouble or maybe even aiding the Warden-romanced or high frienship.

With Flemeth I wouldn't be surprised if Morrigan attempts to get the protagonist to help her kill Flemeth. Obviously Morrigan regards her as a big threat. Flemeth on the other hand, saved both the Warden and Hawke from death, so would she really be a threat in DA3?

Or if you refuse Morrigan's offer, will this make some parts of DA3 completely different? Perhaps it will make the fight with Flemeth a crapload harder or maybe Flemeth kills loads of people before you can stop her without the OGB's aid? Do you wanna see your Warden, Morrigan and ODB being a big happy family, kicking some serious ass all over the place?

Bring your speculations and hopes here, post what you think will and will not occur, depending on your choices regarding Morrigan and her baby or lack of.

Me...personally while I hope it does have some impact, I hope it's not a central theme to DA3 considering some people told Morrigan to get stuffed ( a few of my Wardens included)

Modifié par KiwiQuiche, 01 octobre 2012 - 12:44 .


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Eveangaline

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I didn't make one and hope it doesn't come up

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Il Divo

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Central theme? Maybe not. But the idea of the OGB either existing or not existing in DA3 is significant enough that I'm not certain it will have the impact it deserves, given import efforts in Awakening, DA2, and ME3.

Modifié par Il Divo, 01 octobre 2012 - 12:54 .


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Wifflebottom

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If you had a baby with Morrigan you get her son as a war asset worth 25 points and if you didn't then someone else knocks her up then you get her son as a war asset but he really iz bad guy and takes away 25 points. God I hate war assets...

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JWvonGoethe

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I think the war asset idea is not far off, but could be done well. Also, I don't get why people who didn't do the dark ritual don't want it returning as a plot device - surely the decision not to undergo the ritual is just as weighty as the decision to perform it.

My guess is that there will be some kind of nemesis or obstacle that requires the soul of an old God to be defeated/overcome. I think Flemeth had foresight of this in Dragon Age Origins and that is why she instructed Morrigan to act as she did. I think Flemeth was actually attempting to act for the good of Thedas, and that she is not evil.

Here's how I think it will go in a future Dragon Age game.

Scenario 1: IF Dark Ritual performed in DA:O > protagonist requires living vessel of old God soul to combat some situation/foe > told (by Leliana?) to find Morrigan > finds/enters eluvian and gets ahold of Morrigan > Morrigan lends old God baby to protagonist to complete task (hopefully the old God baby is some kind of dragon/human hybrid!)

Scenario 2 IF Dark Ritual not performed in DA:O > Morrigan still tracked down in eluvian > says she does not have an old God soul but can help if she temporarily joins companion > She takes protagonist to Flemeth > It turns out Flemeth is the living vessel of another old God soul (which would explain a lot) > Flemeth's body is too old and frail to be useable for quest > She has to take possession of a younger, stronger body > This is what she was grooming Morrigan for, and telling Morrigan to do the dark ritual was Flemeth's way of giving Morrigan a chance not to die (because had Morrigan performed the ritual in DA:O, the OGB would have elimanated tge need for Morrigan's death, as in scenario 1) > Morrigan dies as Flemeth takes possession of her body > Flemeth, in Morrigan's body, helps protagonist to complete quest.

I think this would happen in the end game stages, so that the two temporary companions (Old God Baby or Flemeth/Morrigan) would not need to be fully implemented throughout the game (akin to the secret companion's role at the end of Origins.) I also think the old God soul may be required to accomplish some non-violent task, rather than to kill an endgame boss, because the OGB would possibly be too young for combat.

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 01 octobre 2012 - 01:34 .


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I suspect it won't get the attention it deserves. An old god walking around Thedas in human form is (or ought to be, in my opinion) a world-changing event. I think, in some ways, it was a mistake to ever give the player this decision. If they'd had more foresight when writing DA:O, they could've had Morrigan sleep with Riordan instead, if neither the Warden nor Alistair/Loghain performed the ritual, and then the OGB would exist regardless. But it's rather too late now, and having this choice retconned will just ****** off the people who opted out of the Dark Ritual.

I've made my peace with the fact that the OGB will probably be relegated to a sidequest.

Modifié par Plaintiff, 01 octobre 2012 - 01:37 .