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[Icinix]

FINE HERE wrote...

JerZeyCJ2 wrote...

Icinix wrote...



The other is voice.

By having a set race they can have a fully voiced character (Shepard, Hawke etc) - otherwise to do that would require 6 separate voice actors for Human, Elf, Dwarf. You would also need to have a greater amount of dialogue for the player character taking their race into affect.

You know what would fix that? A silent protag, like Origins. Less work for them, and we get to imagine our character sounding like we want and we can get more dialogue choices.

^+1,000,000

Indeed - my next paragraph down said exactly that. Silent protagonist all the way is my preferred way to play.

Aww look at that - it rhymed.

[BENIIICHAT]

In real life I'm common Human. I'll happy if I have a chance to become Human Noble (especially Royal Family)  in DAIII

And F.Y.I. Human is always my favourite (Elf is OK, but I prefer Human)

Modifié par BENIIICHAT, 01 octobre 2012 - 03:43 .

[HiroVoid]

Obviously, none of you'll have experienced the pure joy of playing a dwarf.

[upsettingshorts]

I don't think the other races are inherently more interesting, so I dispute your "most boring" premise emphatically.

[Icinix]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

I don't think the other races are inherently more interesting, so I dispute your "most boring" premise emphatically.

If you take out the origins and the odd piece of dialogue here or there in the game - there was very little impact on the game as a whole.

...but those Origins were damn fine.

[upsettingshorts]

Oh and should mention, having a voiced protagonist is not a hurdle towards multiple races in games. Word of God says so.

They'd just share the voice.

There would not be a need to record six voices, just the usual two.  This could mean the options would be something like... human, city elf, surface dwarf.  But there are your racial choices right there.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 01 octobre 2012 - 03:58 .

[Icinix]

What is Word of God?

[upsettingshorts]

Icinix wrote...

What is Word of God?

TVTropes term, basically means "writer said so."

Link

Though given what he said it would have been more accurate for me to say that player voices is not the hurdle, it is a hurdle, just not the primary one.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 01 octobre 2012 - 04:18 .

[Icinix]

Ahh - Danke.

[Melca36]

FaWa wrote...

 Title. Seriously, lets review 

-Human Noble was the most boring Origin Story. Literally every other Origin was fantastic and I'd put HN as good at best. 
-There isn't any flair to being a human.
-We are humans in our every day life. Why be one in a video game?


Seriously. Why?
This is assuming we are forced into being a human. If thats not the case I will be pleasently surprised, and proceed to jump back on the BioWare train.

Because 80% played humans in Origins.


I personally hated the noble dwarf origin...I prefered dwarf Commoner.

They want the game to SELL.

I believe we should have a choice but they will NEVER remove the human origin because its the most popular.

[Melca36]

FaWa wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

I thought the Human Noble origin was the best of the bunch.

It was the most tied in with the main plot, and it gives a personal angle for wanting to bring down Howe and Loghain that isn't present in most of the other origins.

They could have easily made connections like that for the other races. Human Nobles are to Dragon Age as Liara is to Mass Effect. "Writer's Pet" I believe the correct term would be.

Nobody is forcing you to play it.

The fact remains MORE people played humans above all the other classes.

And the Liara comparison is really ridiculous.

[Bfler]

I think, if it is really a human, then for the same reason Mass Effect 3 is called Retake Earth and not Retake Palawan or Tuchanka.

[Melca36]

FINE HERE wrote...

I only played as a human noble to marry Alistair and be queen.

And 99% of my humans went off to be Wardens with Alistair.

Everyone has choices and thats what made the game great.

Modifié par Melca36, 01 octobre 2012 - 04:56 .

[formaristarry]

Pretend you're an elf irl and then playing a human will feel exotic. *runs away*

[Icinix]

randomlycosmic wrote...

Pretend you're an elf irl and then playing a human will feel exotic. *runs away*

You might be on to something, maybe we should all try being furries before DA3 release for a couple of weeks.

Edit: Or better yet - Cosplayers.

Modifié par Icinix, 01 octobre 2012 - 04:54 .

[Vit246]

Because the other races are not really worth it. Especially when not playing as a Grey Warden.

Elves are second class citizens and would be prevented from being involved in most things simply because they are elves.

Dwarves are....well.... boring and mostly limited to underground. Compared to humans, they don't offer much anything else different .

The Humans are versatile. They're a jack-of-all-trades. And they're everywhere.

I would have no problem if Bioware just decides to leave out the other races and concentrate on humans to give a more interesting experience.

Modifié par Vit246, 01 octobre 2012 - 05:08 .

[Liyros]

On a purely aethestic level, I get you.  That's why I play as a Sylvari in GW2.  Pwetty colors!  

As a dwarf or elf in DA:O, I just felt like that odd duck that interacted with humans a lot and got slightly different dialogue at particular points in the game.  Other than that, I felt like the origin stories were simply based on preference.  I liked..all of them.  They each had that moment of emotional impact for me.  However, I played the city elf the most.

randomlycosmic wrote...

Pretend you're an elf irl and then playing a human will feel exotic. *runs away*

[Plaintiff]

Icinix wrote...

randomlycosmic wrote...

Pretend you're an elf irl and then playing a human will feel exotic. *runs away*

You might be on to something, maybe we should all try being furries before DA3 release for a couple of weeks.

Edit: Or better yet - Cosplayers.

I call dibs on panda.

[DadeLeviathan]

One of the worst points for DA2 in my opinion was that they shoe horned you into being human. One of the tenets of a good RPG is character customization and amazing story. If both of those cannot be had, one can be sacrificed in the name of making the other better (The Witcher 2 is a good example of sacrificing character customization for one of the best current generatoin RPG stories). But, for me, the story was not remotely good enough in DA2 to excuse the lack of character customization. So for DA3, there either needs to be an amazing story (one of the best that Bioware has ever written, if not THE best), or the customization present in DA:O needs to be reintroduced.

[Xilizhra]

I find HN repulsive from now on ever since it was confirmed that you're forced to be racist at the beginning. But I personally am for playing elves all the way in any case.

I would have no problem if Bioware just decides to leave out the other
races and concentrate on humans to give a more interesting experience.

I support leaving out humans and only letting nonhumans become the Inquisitor.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 01 octobre 2012 - 05:37 .

[Eveangaline]

If we hadn't had the option to play as more races before, I probably wouldn't mind being forced to be human so much, but having had them and lost them, it feels like the new games are incomplete without those options.

Modifié par Eveangaline, 01 octobre 2012 - 05:38 .

[formaristarry]

Icinix wrote...

randomlycosmic wrote...

Pretend you're an elf irl and then playing a human will feel exotic. *runs away*

You might be on to something, maybe we should all try being furries before DA3 release for a couple of weeks.

Edit: Or better yet - Cosplayers.

 I'll cosplay an elf so when I play I can grumble: "Look at all these ridiculous shem and their first world problems."

[brushyourteeth]

I waited to play HN last since it sounded too cliched to me. I was really pleasantly surprised when I played it and found how deeply I loved the Couslands (and my sweet revenge against Howe, who was a pretty minor bad guy before then).

Still, here's the thing - I appreciate playing a human more when I have the choice not to.

More options = better than less options. Playing an elf who's mistreated by humans made me understand human culture better. Play a dwarf who has no need for those worthless topsiders made me understand human culture better. Playing a Dalish who blames every human for every misfortune that's ever befallen my people made me appreciate the human niche in Thedas better.

So I'm not for taking human PC's out, but I don't want to be stuck with one as my only option either.

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 01 octobre 2012 - 05:42 .

[Zanallen]

Xilizhra wrote...

I find HN repulsive from now on ever since it was confirmed that you're forced to be racist at the beginning.

Wait, what?