Emzamination wrote...
An elf would have to have the option to side with the templars to balance out equality as I've said before and elves are not accepted by templars.
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Oh yes, because the elves all have one giant hive mind with one universal opinion of the templars and one universal lifestyle that all templars disagree with. They aren't individuals with their own thoughts, opinions, or differing cultures and lifestyles (like the difference between Alienage and Dalish elves, or mages and non-mages). There are no elves in the world that might happen to agree with the templars or align with them because they believe the mages need to be contained. (Like, say, Fenris.) Nope. They are all carbon copies of the elves depicted in your video, therefore there could never simply be an option for an elven protagonist to side with templars based on their own morality, therefore an elf for a protagonist could never happen.
The warden was not a real templar, she just had templar training.The player does not need to join the chantry but they do however have to have the respect of the templar Faction which has never accepted Elves politically.Please refer to the Exalted march on the Dales.
And Hawke was a real templar? Maybe I missed something, but at no point in any game, playthrough, let's play, forum or game review do I ever remember seeing or hearing of Hawke officially joining the Chantry, undergoing templar training, taking templar vows, or being acknowledged by the Kirkwall Templars as "Brother" or "Sister" the way Carver does. Please, if that actually happened, let me know.
Otherwise, Hawke is not a "real templar" any more than the Warden was, therefore a protagonist of any race can undergo templar training and gain templar abilities (and templar opinions and points of view) without officially gaining the "respect" of the Templar Faction.
Other races existing is irrelevant to the overall story plot.
How so? They're involved with the plot. They're characters you very often have to interact with, receive quests from, complete quests with or from (either cooperatively or by killing them or looting their corpses), and take sides with in larger schemes, same as the templars. You're saying it's imperritive to BE a templar just because we have to interact with them as part of the main story, but it's not important to be other races that we also have to interact with as part of the main story?
It was not essential for pro-mage players but it was essential story wise for pro-templar players who needed to bring a stabalizing factor (hawke) to kirkwall.An elf or Dwarf would never be accepted as Vicount by a traditional city like kirkwall because the nobility would never go for it.
Bolded: What are you even talking about? If you side with the templars, you bring a "stabalizing factor" (that promptly goes to pieces when the mages rebel anyway) when you crush the mage rebellion and the crazy Knight Commander Meredith and restore people's confidence in the templar order. It's how you mobilize other people on that fateful night (which anyone of any race can physically do) more than what you get out of it.
Moreover, being viscount is not important to the story. It's one throwaway line in one possible ending that doesn't go anywhere because the same thing ends up happening as with the mage ending: mages rebel anyway, Hawke disappears anyway. If an elf or a dwarf who sides with the templars doesn't become viscount, guess what happens: mages rebel anyway, protagonist disappears anyway. It's not a huge loss.
And again, if gaining a position of power is as important as you imply, there are others out there besides the viscount (which the player will promptly lose in the epilogue anyway). Last I checked, the story is not about "One man's rise to human nobility," it's about one person's rise to power. There are other ways of gaining power besides wearing a crown. (Which, again, a Mage Hawke that sides with Mages gains same as Viscount Hawke.)
Any race implemented needs to be able to side with either mages or templars.An elf rising through the noble ranks with a mansion in hightown isn't a possibility.Hawke couldn't even let merrill live in the mansion without a scandal arising.
Again, elves can side with templars if they feel so inclined. (Hell, Mage Hawke has the option to side with Templars.)
Again, the story is about one person's rise to fame and
power, which can occur without becoming a human noble, if the writers wanted to exert the effort to write one or two throwaway lines about becoming a chancellor or general or something. (To say nothing of already being the Champion and the rallying cry for mages worldwide.)
Oh yes, the "scandal" of Merrill living in the Hightown mansion that resulted in absolutely nothing happening. Kind of like the "scandal" of Fenris living in a Hightown mansion for over six years (which his neighbors
knew about) but being able to avoid trouble with the help of Aveline's connections with the city guard, Varric's connections with the underground and Isabela's connections with... something. (Hey, she drove off the tax collector.) These two elves successfully living in Hightown mansions for at least three years prove that an elf with similar help and connections could never manage to do the same.
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