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[CronicleChicken]

Sons OfLesbians wrote...

they shouldnt change the geth to stop farming, they should take out the main FBW cover in the room where everyone farms. POOF. farming over.

This assumes that everyone farms from that cover. I can farm from that cover but we Farm up at the top, outside of the room everyone camps. We even did the little area in the back where no one goes except when the room gets overrun or to escort the drone. FBW can be farmed almost anywhere there is cover so in order to stop farming on that map, you'd have to either redesign it or remove it completely.

Just saying...

[LexXxich]

Firebase White with Geth is not farming. It's camping. A legitimate strategy. You might find it dull, or too easy, but it's as legitimate as "run and gun".
It isn't even the most efficient at getting credits, "speed runs" on Glacier will give you them at twice the pace.
Furthermore, it's not "farming" that ruins the game for everyone, but Bioware's cheap reaction to that supposed "farming". There are lots of ways to force people out of those counters, like moving spawns, or tweaking AI. Yet they choose the cheapest ones - increase HP, make units harder to kill.

[CronicleChicken]

LexXxich wrote...

Firebase White with Geth is not farming. It's camping. A legitimate strategy. You might find it dull, or too easy, but it's as legitimate as "run and gun".
It isn't even the most efficient at getting credits, "speed runs" on Glacier will give you them at twice the pace.
Furthermore, it's not "farming" that ruins the game for everyone, but Bioware's cheap reaction to that supposed "farming". There are lots of ways to force people out of those counters, like moving spawns, or tweaking AI. Yet they choose the cheapest ones - increase HP, make units harder to kill.

This!!!

[78stonewobble]

Logically it kinda makes sense that you wouldn't be able to grab through a flame.

How it affects general geth difficulty should be balanced via other means (health, shields and behaviour).

And I don't really care if people farm, camp or spawnrush. That should be up to them.

EDIT and PS: Noone forces me to join/stay in a game I don't want to stay in. The only ones with a problem with farming is bioware, jealous people?

Personally I hate the playstyle of running around the map like chickens (with next to noone using voice coms) and prefer a more slow tactical like way of playing. So I'd prefer that there was room for all playstyles.

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 02 octobre 2012 - 10:15 .

[Seneva]

Pffft, pro farmers don't even do white anymore.

[BerserKFang]

JohnShades wrote...

I'll play devil's advocate and say they are an armored unit, the only armored unit you could counter grab. It also has no ranged attack. The idea with pyros is that you should take them out at distance, not at close range. So MAYBE (big maybe) this was their intention from the start.

I would like to see them not rolling around or side jumping. They are an armored unit, as you say, in this case i can't believe they have more mobility than a Destroyer, a Krogan or a Turian.

[CronicleChicken]

Seneva wrote...

Pffft, pro farmers don't even do white anymore.

THIS!!!

[thegamefreek78648]

~Gives the OP's sig a muffin~
Don't worry Fluttershy, we wont let them nerf you.

[Zorinho20_CRO]

CronicleChicken wrote...

Seneva wrote...

Pffft, pro farmers don't even do white anymore.

THIS!!!

I like to play White to test exotic weapons, that I never use in normal Gold games,like Crusader,Incisor and such.
For real creds,nothing beats Glacier.

[coldflame]

Sgt SuperWae wrote...

capn233 wrote...

These are also a unit you could one-shot on any difficulty even before the shield gate change.

The point isn't that Pyros are being made difficult to kill; this change is simply a reflection of how farming continues to negatively impact the gaming experiences for EVERYONE.

Or negatively impacting ea's purse.<_<

[Rifneno]

Anduin The Grey wrote...

As for Bioware lying, no, I wouldn't believe for a second anyone at Bioware would intentionally lie.

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[darkpassenger2342]

corporations never lie, neither does the media, or the government, or me.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 02 octobre 2012 - 10:56 .

[Twinkles DeVere]

Personally I don't really care that Pyro's are ungrabbable now, might make it more interesting.

I just think they should stop trying to control how people play the game. There's only one map where the majority of people "farm", "camp", whatever. It is a little annoying when you can't find an U/U/G match, but really there's loads of different strategies in the way people play the game and it's pointless to try and make everyone do it the way YOU want them too (talkin to *you*, Bioware)

Basically - unless it's a bug, quit messing around with it!

[Arppis]

It was always intended, I remember reading it from some thread where there was Bioware response.

But does it matter?

Modifié par Arppis, 02 octobre 2012 - 11:12 .

[Leland Gaunt]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

that why I choose enemy now, no fun against Geth unless Im a Kroguard

Exactly this.

[GallowsPole]

Wish people would get off the Geth are the hardest faction. They aren't. By a long shot. The biggest pain in the ass faction, yepper, but hard? Hell no. Right character for the right job. It's amazing how fast they succumb to overload.

[darkpassenger2342]

GallowsPole wrote...

Wish people would get off the Geth are the hardest faction. They aren't. By a long shot. The biggest pain in the ass faction, yepper, but hard? Hell no. Right character for the right job. It's amazing how fast they succumb to overload.

 most of us only get geth when we random though...
 i cant imagine any reason to select geth unless you were fbw farming and you dont have to make a lobby for that.... theres 5,000 waiting for you.

[Rifneno]

Arppis wrote...

It was always intended, I remember reading it from some thread where there was Bioware response.

But does it matter?

I remember believing things BW told me.

Then I played Mass Effect 3.

[Computron2000]

Its what? 3rd patch and 7 months? If it was never designed to be grabbed then the numbers don't add up.

Also if its weight that prevents grabbing, Phantoms must weight a ton even though they are as slim as nemeses.

[ToaOrka]

Doesn't matter why, all that matters is that they did.

[Oz not Ozzy]

Waffelmeister wrote...

FBW is the only map where you'd have a reasonable chance to actually grab a pyro anyway.

Well, maybe glacier as well.

FALSE.

My favourite solo map is Ghost and I have grabbed Pyros over the counters on that map plenty of times.

There's also a few good places for grabbing on Hydra, Condor, Giant and Vancouver.

As for the original question, I think this...

Super Nothing wrote...

rtbh99 wrote...

Derek Hollan wrote...

You were never supposed to be able to grab Geth Pyros over cover, etc.

Right, just like Prime headshots were a glitch that somehow got its own special animation.  No one's buying this. 

...sums up my feelings on the matter, other than to say I don't know what's annoying me more... That changes like these are being made in an obvious attempt to combat farming, or that the PR monkeys don't have the decency to admit it and instead try and spin all the "never intended" bollocks... it's insulting!

Modifié par Oz not Ozzy, 02 octobre 2012 - 11:33 .

[GGW KillerTiger]

capn233 wrote...

These are also a unit you could one-shot on any difficulty even before the shield gate change.

Can I have what ever drug you're doing? Seems like a great hillucinagen ....

[GGW KillerTiger]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

corporations never lie, neither does the media, or the government, or me.

Everything you read on the internet is true also. Right?

[78stonewobble]

Oz not Ozzy wrote...

...sums up my feelings on the matter, other than to say I don't know what's annoying me more... That changes like these are being made in an obvious attempt to combat farming, or that the PR monkeys don't have the decency to admit it and instead try and spin all the "never intended" bollocks... it's insulting!

Not sticking your head into flames does makes sense logically. I'll give them that.

But obviously it's about the bottom line...

[Rifneno]

78stonewobble wrote...

Oz not Ozzy wrote...

...sums up my feelings on the matter, other than to say I don't know what's annoying me more... That changes like these are being made in an obvious attempt to combat farming, or that the PR monkeys don't have the decency to admit it and instead try and spin all the "never intended" bollocks... it's insulting!

Not sticking your head into flames does makes sense logically. I'll give them that.

But obviously it's about the bottom line...

When did video games start making sense?