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[MagmaSaiyan]

There has been issues over wanting race back, but i may have found a solution or at the very least its going to possibly ease the minds of bioware. 

now it seems Bioware will have human races only and voiced, at least until they find, either more money, make them silent(hardly doubt it) or have all the time, resource, and correct story to put all of them in. What i suggest is go the route Dragons Dogma goes, or i think they do it, is basically have your human race but able to add elf ears, cause i think they maintain the same accents. if possible Bioware could also add the dwarves, but i dont know how much each actor cost(quite abit im sure),

so there it is i guess, human race with optional elf ears, its not fool proof, but i think its at least an easy compromise that people can role with.

speak your minds if got anything to add.

Modifié par MagmaSaiyan, 01 octobre 2012 - 10:49 .

[TsaiMeLemoni]

I am not sure that would be any more practical, because then where are the human/dwarf and dwarf/elf mixes? It IS a compromise, but not a complete one. And then, if you can come to that kind of weird half mix, why can't full blooded races be accommodated as well?

I think at the end of the day, no one group will be 100% happy, but trying to move into a compromise space like this kind of makes it worse, because then you're just creating even more spaces that need to be filled.

I know I probably did word any of that very well, but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.

[FaWa]

If we are bringing back the BG races, I'd much rather see gnomes return. Just my opinion

[Todd23]

kossith ftw!

[dielveio]

The spring of a human and elf is always human.
It's in the novel Dragon Age The Calling.

[Icinix]

You'd never have much luck playing through Dragon Age because Orlesian laws explicitily state there is to be no fraternization with the helf.

[cogsandcurls]

Am I right in thinking that you're suggesting that the CC should just allow you to put elven features on your otherwise human character? Because if so, I don't think that's going to work - it's a purely aesthetic choice. I mean, some players have managed to mod Hawke in DA2 to do that exact thing.

I believe the issue about being able to play as varied races in DA isn't so much a problem with the main character's look as it is all the other stuff that comes with the racial background: different reactions from people you meet in the world, different stats, a different history/background and (if you want your elf to be Dalish as opposed to an elf who has been brought up in a human-heavy city) a different voice. And that's where it gets expensive in terms of development.

If you WERE talking about it being a purely aesthetic choice, i.e. handwaving as a half-elf who was raised human by the human side of the family, so you get the look but not the culture....unfortunately I don't think that's how it works in Thedas. The child of a human and an elf is a human.

Modifié par cogsandcurls, 01 octobre 2012 - 10:02 .

[MagmaSaiyan]

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

I am not sure that would be any more practical, because then where are the human/dwarf and dwarf/elf mixes? It IS a compromise, but not a complete one. And then, if you can come to that kind of weird half mix, why can't full blooded races be accommodated as well?

I think at the end of the day, no one group will be 100% happy, but trying to move into a compromise space like this kind of makes it worse, because then you're just creating even more spaces that need to be filled.

I know I probably did word any of that very well, but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.

yeah i get what you are saying. are there mixes with dwarf/human, elf? and have we seen them? i havent even heard people say they wanted be a dwarf/elf mix.  i guess i should have worded it differently but im not just saying having a mixed race, but more having an option of being an elf without actually being an elf(cause you know the height difference). i figure this would be the easiest for people who want to play as an elf, but in a sense they are playing a half elf which i guess is better than being a pure human.

[TsaiMeLemoni]

MagmaSaiyan wrote...

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

I am not sure that would be any more practical, because then where are the human/dwarf and dwarf/elf mixes? It IS a compromise, but not a complete one. And then, if you can come to that kind of weird half mix, why can't full blooded races be accommodated as well?

I think at the end of the day, no one group will be 100% happy, but trying to move into a compromise space like this kind of makes it worse, because then you're just creating even more spaces that need to be filled.

I know I probably did word any of that very well, but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.

yeah i get what you are saying. are there mixes with dwarf/human, elf? and have we seen them? i havent even heard people say they wanted be a dwarf/elf mix.  i guess i should have worded it differently but im not just saying having a mixed race, but more having an option of being an elf without actually being an elf(cause you know the height difference). i figure this would be the easiest for people who want to play as an elf, but in a sense they are playing a half elf which i guess is better than being a pure human.

I guess I am just saying that if you're going to start down a road of compromise, you're causing more possible issues than fixing them I suppose. My examples aren't really possible, put if you create one possibility, then why can't possiblity X,Y, and Z possible, ya know?

Especially with make an elf 'without actually being an elf', as I think the people that want to be an elf would be kind of offended that they could be so easily placated with optional pointy ears.

[Barbantious]

Half-assed measures like this are what brought us the "Tali's face" debacle. Either go all with something or don't do it at all.

[Eveangaline]

Haven't they established that half human/half elves look entirely human?

[Josh3598]

As it's been said, the offspring of elves and humans are always human. Look at Slim Couldry from DA:O.

[MagmaSaiyan]

Josh3598 wrote...

As it's been said, the offspring of elves and humans are always human. Look at Slim Couldry from DA:O.

true but in Origins you couldnt tell if he was a half elf or a regular elf if he had elf ears, unless he tells you, pretty obvious that Feynriel looked like a true half elf even somewhat still looking like a human

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Eveangaline wrote...

Haven't they established that half human/half elves look entirely human?

yes. Elven genes are malleable so when they mate with another race, the genes of the fetus turn into the non-elven parents structure.

[Josh3598]

MagmaSaiyan wrote...

Josh3598 wrote...

As it's been said, the offspring of elves and humans are always human. Look at Slim Couldry from DA:O.

true but in Origins you couldnt tell if he was a half elf or a regular elf if he had elf ears, unless he tells you, pretty obvious that Feynriel looked like a true half elf even somewhat still looking like a human

But Slim and Feynriel were both human, they didn't have any elf ears or anything.

[Eveangaline]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

Haven't they established that half human/half elves look entirely human?

yes. Elven genes are malleable so when they mate with another race, the genes of the fetus turn into the non-elven parents structure.

I think it's more like when paired up with non-elf genes the elf genes are recessive

MagmaSaiyan wrote...

Josh3598 wrote...

As it's been said, the offspring of elves and humans are always human. Look at Slim Couldry from DA:O.

true
but in Origins you couldnt tell if he was a half elf or a regular elf
if he had elf ears, unless he tells you, pretty obvious that Feynriel
looked like a true half elf even somewhat still looking like a human

Didn't Feynriel have a fully human model though? 

Modifié par Eveangaline, 01 octobre 2012 - 11:02 .

[marshalleck]

Eveangaline wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

Haven't they established that half human/half elves look entirely human?

yes. Elven genes are malleable so when they mate with another race, the genes of the fetus turn into the non-elven parents structure.

I think it's more like when paired up with non-elf genes the elf genes are recessive

that's exactly what it is

[Hanako Ikezawa]

marshalleck wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Eveangaline wrote...

Haven't they established that half human/half elves look entirely human?

yes. Elven genes are malleable so when they mate with another race, the genes of the fetus turn into the non-elven parents structure.

I think it's more like when paired up with non-elf genes the elf genes are recessive

that's exactly what it is

I swear I read "malleable genes" somewhere in DA but basically the same thing, just that the recessive elven genes will never appear.

[CuriousArtemis]

What?? It's been confirmed that we HAVE to play as human in DA3? That SUCKS!!!! <_<

At least, BW, give us the option to make a male character who DOES NOT look like a chiseled, big and buff bodybuilder guy. If you can just give me the chance to make a male character who has a similar build to an elf (or a size small guy in the real world ... look around you, BW, not every man on the planet is 6'2 with rippling muscles)... then I would at least be somewhat happy.

But, gosh 

[ligernull]

Has it been confirmed? Or are we just making assumptions based on there being a voiced protagonist?

LINKS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

[TsaiMeLemoni]

motomotogirl wrote...

What?? It's been confirmed that we HAVE to play as human in DA3? That SUCKS!!!! <_<

At least, BW, give us the option to make a male character who DOES NOT look like a chiseled, big and buff bodybuilder guy. If you can just give me the chance to make a male character who has a similar build to an elf (or a size small guy in the real world ... look around you, BW, not every man on the planet is 6'2 with rippling muscles)... then I would at least be somewhat happy.

But, gosh 

No it hasn't been confirmed, but it's being assumed since we're probably getting a voiced PC again.

[thebigbad1013]

I don't get the logic that is being used here that says that a voiced protagonist has to be human. The reason Hawke was human in Dragon Age 2 wasn't because they added a voiced protagonist but because of story elements which meant that Hawke simply couldn't be a dwarf or an elf. Also I think I remember someone (I want to say David Gaider but I'm not entirely sure) posting on these boards that the majority of players only played as humans in Origins.

Now as for the OP's idea, I really don't see the point of it as it would be purely cosmetic and you'd still be playing a human, albeit a human with curiously shaped ears.

[Todd23]

motomotogirl wrote...

What?? It's been confirmed that we HAVE to play as human in DA3? That SUCKS!!!! <_<

At least, BW, give us the option to make a male character who DOES NOT look like a chiseled, big and buff bodybuilder guy. If you can just give me the chance to make a male character who has a similar build to an elf (or a size small guy in the real world ... look around you, BW, not every man on the planet is 6'2 with rippling muscles)... then I would at least be somewhat happy.

But, gosh 

I'm 6'1 with big muscles... but I still want to be an elf.
Why does voiced pc mean humans?  If they included dwarf and elf would they have to find real dwarves and elves for it?  Everyone in the world are voiced by the same species anyways.  My elven warden had suave, so he had a deep voice anyways.

EDIT:  Why not keep one parent a seacret again and have the one they show elven?  Different races without origins.  But I still want origins, I'd just rather have races

Modifié par Todd23, 02 octobre 2012 - 08:19 .

[Kail Ashton]

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!

whoa!!

......elves wear make up?

[Aulis Vaara]

Nevermind, I misread something.

Modifié par Aulis Vaara, 02 octobre 2012 - 09:05 .