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[Steelcan]

 Post here for any ideas you have on how to improve the romances of characters that you feel got cheated out in ME3.  Did you feel that any romance should have gotten more attention?  Post your ideas here, but no character bashing, trolling, etc....



Example.  Add love interest coming onto the Normandy before Priority Earth, give them an actual romance scene on par with Liara's or Ashley's etc..., (not a fade to black<_<, looking at Miranda, Garrus, Tali). Give some sense of closure with Thane and Jacob romances.  Include more romance speific dialogue for characters.

Any ideas?

Modifié par Steelcan, 02 octobre 2012 - 04:39 .

[Taboo]

I support this. Time to get on it.

[BP93]

It won't ever happen. The most we'll ever get is a few lines in the next DLC. But as we saw last time, that's enough to get people to buy it apparently.

[krukow]

A romance scene with a scantily clad Garrus would be the most akward/rediculous thing ever and I would gladly pay 800 MS points for it!

[CptData]

Won't happen, period. Besides that: Thane's dead and Jacob moved on. It's already kinda offending for straight f!Shep players their only options are either Garrus or Kaidan.
I know several players who're not into Garrus and left Kaidan on Virmire to keep their "best friend" Ashley around, those don't have ANY straight romance option in ME3 ...

So if there's ever a romance DLC, BW should make Vega an availabe LI.
Plus improving the romances we already have.

But for ME2!romances? I can't see any way to bring 'em back on board of the Normandy except a full overhaul of the entire game. Which doesn't work.

[themikefest]

a scene with femshep and Samantha on the citadel
buy Sam the toothbrush I had 6000 credits to buy it

[krukow]

CptData wrote...

Won't happen, period. Besides that: Thane's dead and Jacob moved on. It's already kinda offending for straight f!Shep players their only options are either Garrus or Kaidan.
I know several players who're not into Garrus and left Kaidan on Virmire to keep their "best friend" Ashley around, those don't have ANY straight romance option in ME3 ...

So if there's ever a romance DLC, BW should make Vega an availabe LI.
Plus improving the romances we already have.

But for ME2!romances? I can't see any way to bring 'em back on board of the Normandy except a full overhaul of the entire game. Which doesn't work. 

Modifié par krukow, 02 octobre 2012 - 04:47 .

[CaIIisto]

Agree that it would be too problematic to work in ME2 character romances. The best we'll get, and something I'd definitely be interested in, are expanded romances with the existing ME3 LIs.

As themes for DLC go, this must be one of the more popular requests, but I doubt we'll ever see it. More likely are pointless 'go fetch' missions.

[Steelcan]

How hard would it really be to add scenes for Miranda hen you meet her in the apartment, Jack in the Vitadel, add on to Thane's death scene and add some form of aftermath to it, give Garrus and Tali quality scenes on the Normandy, or explain Jacob's romance a little more? Just cutscenes, it doesn't need to be whole new missions or anything

[ABN Tali Fan]

I would love to see expanded LI content but as others have said it is very unlikely. A few lines of dialogue here and there in upcoming DLC is probably the best we are going to get. But there is space in the Normandy for more squadmates so there is some hope.

[coldwetn0se]

There is a long standing Romance DLC thread that has a number of DLC concepts, and ideas to add LI content to story-driven DLC.

I wrote out a fairly detailed story DLC outline, that included romance content.  Because I am a Thanemancer, the Thane aspect is more fleshed out, but it still includes content for all the LI's (mostly focusing on the ME2 characters).  The DLC could be played even if you ONLY have your me3 squad, but it gives extra love for the abandoned ME2 squaddies.  Feel free to take a look.

There was also a very large survey (not through the BSN) on the idea of Romance Content, that inspired a Blog Site.  If the spirit should move you, check it out.  We have numerous features every week, including Character Spotlights by guest bloggers, and Screenshot Thursdays for viewers who want to submit screenies of their Sheps and LI's of choice.

[BobZilla84]

I am a strong Supporter of Bioware making Romance DLC and If they did I would buy it on the release day but the problem is that Bioware in their Folly they ireversably screwed over the Mass Effect 2 Romancers. Because they can't get the same Depth the VS Team Dextro an Liara get because as others have posted they can't give Miranda,Jack,Thane,Jacob,Samara and Kelly the Justice they deserved because they can't add them to the Squad.

I would love more Romance Content with Miranda & Jack but I am not fooling myself into thinking we will get more so I have just accepted the fact and Made Saves that Romanced Ashley,Liara & Tali that way I will have a Fullfilling Romance Arc in Mass Effect 3.

Oh yeah Female Shepard got Screwed plain & Simple when it came to Hetero Romance Options they killed off one and turned the other into a Cheating SOB and then you only have Garrus and Kaiden both of which could be dead before Mass Effect 3 begins Vega & Joker should have been new options and I stand by that

[krukow]

Samara is not a freaking romance people. She's nice to you and I guess you hold hands for a second or two, but she flat out rejects shep.

I guess denial isn't just a river in Egypt anymore...

[David7204]

These ideas are lame. You can't release DLC with Shepard and his/her love interest just staring into each others' eyes for a few minutes and then and having sex or something. All stories are based on conflict. No conflict, no story.

Lair of the Shadow Broker is the proper bloody way to expand on a romantic relationship. It would have to be something like that.

Modifié par David7204, 03 octobre 2012 - 04:32 .

[CptData]

David7204 wrote...

These ideas are lame. You can't release DLC with Shepard and his/her love interest just staring into each others' eyes for a few minutes and then and having sex or something. All stories are based on conflict. No conflict, no story.

Lair of the Shadow Broker is the proper bloody way to expand on a romantic relationship. It would have to be something like that.

Pretty much this. A while ago I wrote a long text about how to bring back the romances and give 'em some meaning. I did it especially for Kaidan and Ashley, but it's possible to do something similar for other romances as well. In this case it was a story-driven DLC that was available for any players but with a different vibe if you a) bring Ashley / Kaidan and if you romanced one of them.

Very short: the story revolves around Virmire - the base got destroyed, but not entirely, and Cerberus is currently searching for anything that could help seizing control over the Reapers. Since Saren had done similar research before, it's possible some parts of the puzzle can be found here.
Shepard got orders to investigate Cerberus presence on Virmire.

If the player brings NOT Kaidan / Ashley, it's a standard job: infiltratre, take down Cerberus forces and exfiltrate with any tech that may help the cause. I think the entire job can be split up into three parts with the Normandy as hub - similar to "Leviathan".

If the player brings Kaidan / Ashley NOT romanced, it's still the same job, however, certain events get added to the story: the VS will remind Shepard of the one left on Virmire.
Same for a player that brings Kaidan / Ashley with a PAST, NOT YET or NEVER renewed romance.

If the player brings Kaidan / Ashley with a LOCKED IN romance, the job will be still the same. Any additional events concerning the one who died on Virmire will be played, but everything will have a romantic undertone. The events in the hub sequences will be different and more romantic than normal.

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I think that should be possible for any other LI, however, that requires him or her to be part of the crew at least for a while. I doubt BW is willing to do anything like that - but I would like to see it. Especially since MORE MISSIONS means MORE TIME with the Normandy, Shepard and the crew

[BobZilla84]

@KruKow
Yes Samara isn't an option but alot of her fans wish she was I like her as a Mother figure to shepard myself but hey thats me.

@CptData
I am a supporter of all your great Ideas I would love a more fleshed out Ashley Romance myself but hey thats me but at the same time I believe alot of bitterness has been created by the shoddy handling of the Mass Effect 2 Romances and the sad reality is that the only real solution is to Romance Team Dextro,Liara or The VS.

[CptData]

BobZilla 2k10 wrote...

@KruKow
Yes Samara isn't an option but alot of her fans wish she was I like her as a Mother figure to shepard myself but hey thats me.

@CptData
I am a supporter of all your great Ideas I would love a more fleshed out Ashley Romance myself but hey thats me but at the same time I believe alot of bitterness has been created by the shoddy handling of the Mass Effect 2 Romances and the sad reality is that the only real solution is to Romance Team Dextro,Liara or The VS.

Well, last time I checked Team Dextro fans were quite disappointed: Garrus doesn't even has a scene in underwear (well, not many want to see a naked Turian) and Tali's face ... well. Story is well known.

Out of the bunch Liara got the best (read: most complete) romance. Garrus got the best (again: most complete) friendship arc. Kaidan's romance got one or two extra moments compared to Ash but doesn't come with a "complete" feeling like Liara. And he certainly lacks a true friendship arc.

Same for Ashley. Friendship arc? No, not even the tiniest hint. Either romance or nothing. As an Ash fan I say you -really- should keep her only if you want to go after the romance or use her as squadmate frequently. If you don't need her skills as soldier and if you don't want to romance her, you better allow her to become part of Hackett's team - especially if you need the points.

Well, I could go through ME2 romances over and over again. Truth is: none of those romances got resolved in a satisfying way.

Technically, Miranda's romance got some ending - if you can take the view of a dying Miri. In case she survives Sanctuary, her romance arc doesn't get a conclusion.
She also lacks a proper romance scene: the only one that feels like one is an extended scene everyone (with her alive) can see as well. Biggest difference are few lines and the "idea" they might go down to business. For Miri fans just disappointing, especially since Miranda also seems to lack most of her original character.

Then we have Jack. Did I mention no ME2 romance (except Team Dextro) got some sort of satisfying closure? Well, same for Jack. If you consider "death" as closure, then you need to ignore the Academy mission. If you want more - well, play the mission, save Jack, but don't expect something special.
If I remember correctly EVERY Shepard can dance with her - so this one scene isn't special either. Bummer.

Jacob - no need to go into that, right?

Thane - dito. Most scenes are played for any Shepard, regardless if Thane was a romance or not. And Thane's death doesn't work like a satisfying ending of a romance ...

I -really- have ideas for those four guys but it's pretty much a waste of time to type 'em down. BW won't produce story based DLCs dealing with certain romances. 'though it should be a -real- moneymaker to create a story DLC for each of those four guys.

That plus Virmire + Vega romance DLC. 10 bucks each DLC (if quality / gameplay is similar to Leviathan) means 60 bucks for the full set. And we didn't even touch Team Dextro and the homosexual romances yet!

[Skullheart]

CptData wrote...

But for ME2!romances? I can't see any way to bring 'em back on board of the Normandy except a full overhaul of the entire game. Which doesn't work.

I still don't know what were the writers smoking when they decided to keep Miranda out of Cronos station (as temp squadmate or support character).

[CptData]

Skullheart wrote...

CptData wrote...

But for ME2!romances? I can't see any way to bring 'em back on board of the Normandy except a full overhaul of the entire game. Which doesn't work.

I still don't know what were the writers smoking when they decided to keep Miranda out of Cronos station (as temp squadmate or support character).

You could ask the same for Thane, Jacob or Jack. Or Mordin, Grunt, Samara ... all the jazz.

[Skullheart]

CptData wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

CptData wrote...

But for ME2!romances? I can't see any way to bring 'em back on board of the Normandy except a full overhaul of the entire game. Which doesn't work.

I still don't know what were the writers smoking when they decided to keep Miranda out of Cronos station (as temp squadmate or support character).

You could ask the same for Thane, Jacob or Jack. Or Mordin, Grunt, Samara ... all the jazz.

Miranda was in Cerberus for something like 20 years, the organization definer most of her life. First time wee see her is on Cronos, in TIM's office. It made snse to have her returned as a new person, different from what she was the last time she entered that room.

From the ME2 cast she had most reason to be there. At some extent Jacob too (but he only was 2 years in the organization, the connection he had with Cerberus wasn't like what Miranda had). Jack might want revenge at some point, but it seems like she is over it when she become a teacher.

The resto of the team has no real reason to be in Cronos, they will be just for Shepard, not for themselves.

[CptData]

^ I meant they all had their key missions. Miranda had Sanctuary AND that Cerberus HQ - and she wasn't used in either one.

Whatever, it's all history.

[Skullheart]

Yep,is water under the bridge now. bw screwed them and would never admit it.

[BobZilla84]

@CptData
Oh yeah I totally agree with every thing you said the Romance/Friendship Arc Issue always rubbed me the wrong way I think that Bioware should have made every Romance Arc at least Liara Depth and Quality and in my opinion the same can be said about the Friendship Arcs those all should have been Garrus Depth and Quality.

@Skullheart
I agree about Miranda being grossly underused in this game I have always said that she should have been at Chronos Station but then again I also have been saying she should have been a Full time Squadmember.

[Demonique]

I'm all for romance DLC, especially romance DLC that would give MShep a male alien LI

Someone on Facebook said that BW had wanted to do a FemShep/Wrex romance but it would have interfered with the genophage plot. If this is true, then I'd like to see it in romance DLC, with it affecting the genophage plot. Even if it was only a "I like you but we can't be together because my people need me" thing it would be awesome

[CptData]

I'm pretty sure the Krogan-romance is a hoax.
Don't trust Zuckerberg's monster, I say ^^