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[Arokel]

I'm sick in bed and bored out of my skull so I will take the time to present the geo-political situation as it stands (with as few pc choice variables as possible) in 9:40 Dragon.  I want to see where you guys think it will go from here. 

Magi and Templars:
WAR!!!  Its  been a long time coming but in 9:37 Dragon the  Battle of Kirkwall provided the first spark of the Mage-Templar War.  War did not break out immediately.  It would be another three years of tense negotiation before things fell apart.  In the end the magi have decided to break away from the Chantry and disband the Circle.  Lord Seeker Lambert, head of the Seekers of Truth, has dissolved the Navarran Accord.  This agreement divided the Inquisition into the Seekers of Truth and the Templar Order and placed them under the authority of the Divine.  The Seekers and Templars now fight their own war against the magi.  Currently a large Templar force is marching on Andoral's Reach, a fortess on the border of Orlais that is the current headquarters of the rebel magi.

Divine Justinia V (who players may remember as Mother Dorothea of Lothering) is desperately trying to reach peace between the two sides.  Those Seekers who are still loyal to her (along with Leliana) have been searching for the two people who may be able to stop the conflict, The Warden and the Champion.  So far they have failed.

The Empire Divided:
Orlais is the most powerful nation on Thedas.  It capital of Val Royeaux is the center of both Orlais and the Andrastian Chantry, making it arguably the most important city in the world.  All is not well however.  Empress Celene I of Orlais has faced criticism of her rule.  One of her vassals, Grand Duke Gaspard de Chalons, has gone so far as to plot to overthrow her. 

We know little about this war currently and most of what little we do know is rumor.  Val Royeaux still remains in the hands of the loyalists but widespread rioting has occurred after the Imperial Chancellor called for conscription and the city's Sun Gates have been sealed.  Much of the loyalist's forces are gathered at the city of Jader on the Ferelden border.  The status of the Empress is unkown.  Rumors say she is with her supporters in Jader, captured by the rebels, or maybe even dead.

Aftermath of the Blight:
The Fifth Blight, while incredibly short, devestated Ferelden.  The land around Lothering (and presumably the land south) has been rendered uninhabitable for decades at least.  The Bannorn, the heart of Ferelden, suffered badly at the end of the Blight.  It is unkown how bad the damage is.  Amaranthine also suffered from the attacks of the Mother and her forces.  While the severity of the damage is known the location is not as this depends on the choices of the Warden (or their Orlesian substitute).  We know that tensions with Orlais have been high but due to the civil war in Orlais these may have been put aside.

The Architect is another improtant factor.  Depending on how the pc chose the Architect may be dead.  Even if he is the possibilty exists that he is not unique and that Darkspawn can be born free.  What this means for Thedas is still a unkown.

The Contested North:
The Llomerryn Accords ended the New Exalted Marches and brought peace between the Qunari and the Andrastian Chantry.  The Tevinter Imperium however, was not a signatory of the Accords and the war has continued with Qunari for centuries.  So far this war has been limited to skirmishing over the island of Seheron.  This may change however with the shattering of the Andrastian Chantry.  An Exalted March from the White Divineis unlikely at best.  The Qunari could invade mainland Tevinter without fear of reprisal from the whole continent.  

The Qunari leadership may also be significant here.  According to the canon BioWare uses for their books and comics the Sten who accompanied the Warden has ascened to the rank of Arishok, leader of the "body of the Qunari".  It is unkown if player choices will have an effect on this.

The Deep:
The Dwarves appear to be keeping on keeping on.  They have regained some territoy beneath Ferelden and will have a temporary relief of pressure thanks to the slaughter of the Darkspawn on the surface (and possibly the Architect).  The discovery of not just one but several primeval thaigs that predate the Memories is undoubtedly a disturbing revelation for those who know.

The Elvhen:
Not much appears to be going on.  The alienages appear to be going on like they always have.  The current state of the new Dalish homeland in the Hinterlands (if the pc chose that boon) is confused.  I have seen several claims that it was retconned.  The Qun appears to be attracting more elves who are tired of the the oppression of humans or fleeing the law.





So I have (finally) finished presenting (to the best of my knowledge) the current state of the geo-political situation in Thedas.  Where do you guys think it will go from here?  What do you guys want to see happen?

p.s. If there are any omissions or mistakes please let me know and I will see about correcting them.  All info came from DAO, DA2, or the DA wiki.

Modifié par Arokel, 08 octobre 2012 - 05:19 .

[ananna21]

I think Celine will have fled by the time the game has begun and seeks our help but if put back in power it will ensure that chevaliers can still do what they want the peasants. Someone else can come more intolerable but gives rights to the non nobles. Dwarves will probably be ignored again but with the schism the templars need lyrium so maybe certain dwarves earn much from the addicts.

[King Cousland]

ananna21 wrote...

I think Celine will have fled by the time the game has begun and seeks our help but if put back in power it will ensure that chevaliers can still do what they want the peasants. Someone else can come more intolerable but gives rights to the non nobles. Dwarves will probably be ignored again but with the schism the templars need lyrium so maybe certain dwarves earn much from the addicts.

This sounds very similar to the Harrowmont/Bhelen storyline. I doubt they'd rehash a story that way. 

[CELL55]

I just hope that Bioware doesn't try to cram in all the different faction conflicts in there. They should keep the number relatively low, in order to ensure a more focused narrative that has depth as opposed to several different stories that chop the game up piecemeal (See DA2).

[BouncyFrag]

CELL55 wrote...

I just hope that Bioware doesn't try to cram in all the different faction conflicts in there. They should keep the number relatively low, in order to ensure a more focused narrative that has depth as opposed to several different stories that chop the game up piecemeal (See DA2).

Agreed. The nice thing about Dragon Age is there is so much intriguing content to be explored and need not be rushed/crammed. For example, I could easily see an entire game based withen the Tevinter Empire.

[Arokel]

BouncyFrag wrote...

CELL55 wrote...

I just hope that Bioware doesn't try to cram in all the different faction conflicts in there. They should keep the number relatively low, in order to ensure a more focused narrative that has depth as opposed to several different stories that chop the game up piecemeal (See DA2).

Agreed. The nice thing about Dragon Age is there is so much intriguing content to be explored and need not be rushed/crammed. For example, I could easily see an entire game based withen the Tevinter Empire.

My guess is that the Mage-Templar War will end in DA3 and DA4 will see the final Qunari invasion of Tevinter.

[ananna21]

Oh yeah now I see I would not mind being wrong and be surprised instead. I think Celine will blonde random guess. With the hints of Orlais instability in Asunder telling how the mighty empire not being all that unified certain Dalish elves will unite and try take back the Dales. Or maybe an elven concubine shares secrets with the Qun and the Qunari gain inland territory. It is still not a very populated region except on the coast and the elves had enough to depend on themselves alone despite the land being the mountains shadow. Certain elves see that even if they greatly help some humans they will still be stigmatized and easily forgotten just like Garahel. Another detail in Asunder worth mentioning is that being a mage does not make one accepted in Tevinter Rhys was treated poorly once he spoke due to his Orlesian accent. The likely Orlesian pc will likely be treated with little trust in Tevinter territory.
Perhaps there is a lyrium rich cavern that the rebel templars depend on. One can destroy for the sake of the mages but by doing so the with-drawl symptoms of the templars gets so bad in certain areas that many smaller settlements get destroyed which leads to more demons.

[Bfler]

Arokel wrote...

BouncyFrag wrote...

CELL55 wrote...

I just hope that Bioware doesn't try to cram in all the different faction conflicts in there. They should keep the number relatively low, in order to ensure a more focused narrative that has depth as opposed to several different stories that chop the game up piecemeal (See DA2).

Agreed. The nice thing about Dragon Age is there is so much intriguing content to be explored and need not be rushed/crammed. For example, I could easily see an entire game based withen the Tevinter Empire.

My guess is that the Mage-Templar War will end in DA3 and DA4 will see the final Qunari invasion of Tevinter.

I hope the fantasie aspect of the game will not suffer with so much political focus.

[PaulSX]

you forget one thing: Flemeth, her daughters and Dragons

[Arokel]

suntzuxi wrote...

you forget one thing: Flemeth, her daughters and Dragons

I wanted to focus on the geo-political situation only.  If I had gone into the magical and mysterious stuff the original post would be doubled in length.

[Arokel]

Bfler wrote...

Arokel wrote...

BouncyFrag wrote...

CELL55 wrote...

I just hope that Bioware doesn't try to cram in all the different faction conflicts in there. They should keep the number relatively low, in order to ensure a more focused narrative that has depth as opposed to several different stories that chop the game up piecemeal (See DA2).

Agreed. The nice thing about Dragon Age is there is so much intriguing content to be explored and need not be rushed/crammed. For example, I could easily see an entire game based withen the Tevinter Empire.

My guess is that the Mage-Templar War will end in DA3 and DA4 will see the final Qunari invasion of Tevinter.

I hope the fantasie aspect of the game will not suffer with so much political focus.

It probably won't.  The fantasy elements are ingrained into everyday life.  Walk down the street in a typical city and you will probably see an elf or maybe a dwarf.

[Maria Caliban]

suntzuxi wrote...

you forget one thing: Flemeth, her daughters and Dragons

That's more than one thing.

[ElitePinecone]

suntzuxi wrote...

you forget one thing: Flemeth, her daughters and Dragons

That's not exactly geopolitics, though... 

Nice post OP, I'd forgotten what was happening in Orlais in Asunder - we haven't had much of an insight into Orlesian politics and it sounds as though there's a big confrontation brewing. 

There's also the Free Marches to consider - the Chantry looked to have been considering an Exalted March (well, unless the DA2 expansion pack was badly titled ) and there's a chance of war between the city-states of Kirkwall and Starkhaven if Sebastian ran off and Anders was left alive. 

The nascent-but-interrupted marketing hint campaign thingy for Exalted March did mention some minor cities in the Free Marches (Est watch was one, it's one word but that won't pass the forum filter, I forget the others), so it's possible they could feature in any conflicts in that area also.

[Jerrybnsn]

That's a very good summery, OP. I'm kind of wondering myself how Ferelden is supposed to be threatened by a divided Orlais right at this time during DA3. It seems they have a repreive of sorts for the next five to ten years while the civil war last. Certain Orlaisians have felt the empire shouldn't have let Ferelden go and so the winner of the Civil War will decide Fereldan's fate either to live peacfully side by side, or try once again to subjegate them under the sword.

[Arokel]

ElitePinecone wrote...

suntzuxi wrote...

you forget one thing: Flemeth, her daughters and Dragons

That's not exactly geopolitics, though... 

Nice post OP, I'd forgotten what was happening in Orlais in Asunder - we haven't had much of an insight into Orlesian politics and it sounds as though there's a big confrontation brewing. 

There's also the Free Marches to consider - the Chantry looked to have been considering an Exalted March (well, unless the DA2 expansion pack was badly titled ) and there's a chance of war between the city-states of Kirkwall and Starkhaven if Sebastian ran off and Anders was left alive. 

The nascent-but-interrupted marketing hint campaign thingy for Exalted March did mention some minor cities in the Free Marches (Est watch was one, it's one word but that won't pass the forum filter, I forget the others), so it's possible they could feature in any conflicts in that area also.

Thanks for the compliment.  

I completely forgot about the Free Marches except for the Battle fo Kirkwall lol.

Anybody thinkt it is worth adding to the original post?