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[Eisberg_DAO]

Nemanji wrote...

Im sorry but this game was horrible. I sent $114 on a collectors addition copy for the 360 and quit after 20mins.


Some problems that I peronally found:

No first person view
The whole team idea.I dont want to worry about 5 characters at once.
NO JUMP FEATURE. Which means restricted areas.
WHAT HAPPEND TO FREE ROAM??
Bland characters
Always doing quests is boring, you cant even attack friendlies

Really i expected a game one to challenge Bethesda. Oblivion is BY FAR the funner game. Giving the rpg player that what they most desire FREEDOM.

Getting around is horrible and slow

Really anyone that has played Elder Scroll Iv or even Morrowind would agree that this game failed.

Im not trying to be smart or anything. Honestly dissapointed with the game. I know however many people do like it and i respect their views. This is just my PERSONAL opion

For your information, I am a huge Elder Scrolls fan, meaning I have played Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, Battlespire, and Redgaurd, and loved every one of them.  You probably don't even know 4 of 6 of those games.  Those games were by far some of the greatest games I have played when they released.  Yet, I competely disagree with your opinion.  Bethesda created Elderscrolls for a different kind of game play then Bioware does with their games, they are really 2 different types of RPGs and both companies do well with what they are trying to accomplish.

The only thing that has failed here is you, for not doing your research before buying the game.
Also you are probably nothing more then a troll because if you only played 20 minutes, you barely got to fight anything, and you only had 2 people to control, not the 5 like you said, which is actually only max of 4.

[Raint]

pure fail

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Nemanji wrote...
Im not trying to be smart or anything. Honestly dissapointed with the game. I know however many people do like it and i respect their views. This is just my PERSONAL opion

You are right, you aren't very smart are you.

As others have said, you bought a CE of a game that you clearly not done any research on?

You expected things to be in the game, which are clearly not and you would have known are not had you done any research?

As Howe would say "Pity..."

[Ryngard]

Yeah I'm sure this is a troll thread... I don't get them.



However, I'd say that it is a problem with YOU and not "Dragon Age FAILED" as you so cleverly say in your title.



I've played Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Oblivion and I find DA to be a far SUPERIOR game. I'm not a fan of pointless wandering through empty terrain as you find in the Elder Scrolls games.



Most of the points you made are either 100% FALSE or personal preference (and a few of them are points I'd make in FAVOR of the game).



What a troll.

[ToJKa1]

It seems you bought a BioWare game expecting it to be a Bethesda game? I'm a huge Oblivion fan too, but as i've played BioWare games in the past, i knew what sort of game to expect; more or less lnear, that follows the main storyline very closely, different from Bethesda's "the world is open for you, do the quests when you feel like it".



The party idea i was a bit apprehensive at first too, but in the end it works. Four people can accomplish so much more than a single hero. The camera required a bit of getting used to at first too, though as i mainly play Oblivion from a third person perspective, it wasn't such a huge obstacle to overcome.



In the end, Dragon Age is a great game, but completely different from Betehesda's games, it's strenght is storytelling, something that is a bit lacking (to put it politely) in Bethesda's games. Give it a change, and maybe you'll change your mind.

[Burocky]

I think you probly @ wrong forum with wrong game

[Fluffykeith]

Why is if always "this game sucks/has failed/is terrible" rather than "I didn't like it"? Seems to me that DA:O actually succeeded very well at what it was designed for... all the OPs complaints appear to be down to him having little understanding of what the game is, and demanding a whole bunch of stuff that just isn't appropriate for the style of game that it is.



That's his failure, not the games.



It doesn't need a first person view. If fact such a view would make it harder to control the tactical style of combat. That's why there isn't one.



The OP not wanting to control a party is not the fault of the game. It's his. Parties are very common in RPGs. And with good reason.



The other issues, such as no free roam or inability to attack friendlies, again these are down to expecting the game to be something it's not.



I've played the Elder Scrolls and Morrowind. They bored the ****** off me. There was no feeling of drive or story progression...I could do pretty much whatever I liked, but had very little reason to do anything. Hence, I gave up on them. I finished DA:O.



And finally, 20 minutes play is NOT enough time to get to grips with a complex game like an RPG. I'd say its not even long enough to finish any of the origins.

[Zcorck]

Nemanji wrote...

Im sorry but this game was horrible. I sent $114 on a collectors addition copy for the 360 and quit after 20mins.


Some problems that I peronally found:

No first person view
The whole team idea.I dont want to worry about 5 characters at once.
NO JUMP FEATURE. Which means restricted areas.
WHAT HAPPEND TO FREE ROAM??
Bland characters
Always doing quests is boring, you cant even attack friendlies

Really i expected a game one to challenge Bethesda. Oblivion is BY FAR the funner game. Giving the rpg player that what they most desire FREEDOM.

Getting around is horrible and slow

Really anyone that has played Elder Scroll Iv or even Morrowind would agree that this game failed.

Im not trying to be smart or anything. Honestly dissapointed with the game. I know however many people do like it and i respect their views. This is just my PERSONAL opion

5 characters eh? Nice counting.
Yes... without jumping the Blight will consume us all.
The game is easily worth 100+ gameplay hours and you base your opinion on 20 min?
Who would have thought you'd need to do quests in an rpg eh? Oh the humanity!

Somewhere in Orzammar there is a crier saying, "News of the hour! Kid spends 114$ on Dragon Age CE, while completely ignorant of its content. Epic Fail!"

[TheYancey]

My gawd, how can anyone think that a game from Bioware would be a Morrowind/Oblivion clone? DAO is of the Baldur's gate/KOTOR lineage and is an excellent extension of that!

[gammle]

ohhh another whine and cry post *cheers*



its simple if you dont like it dont game it and spare us..

[metallica1986]

Zcorck wrote...
Who would have thought you'd need to do quests in an rpg eh? Oh the humanity!

Somewhere in Orzammar there is a crier saying, "News of the hour! Kid spends 114$ on Dragon Age CE, while completely ignorant of its content. Epic Fail!"

LMAO xD

[Lordwolf89]

Nemanji wrote...

Im sorry but this game was horrible. I sent $114 on a collectors addition copy for the 360 and quit after 20mins.


Some problems that I peronally found:

No first person view
The whole team idea.I dont want to worry about 5 characters at once.
NO JUMP FEATURE. Which means restricted areas.
WHAT HAPPEND TO FREE ROAM??
Bland characters
Always doing quests is boring, you cant even attack friendlies

Really i expected a game one to challenge Bethesda. Oblivion is BY FAR the funner game. Giving the rpg player that what they most desire FREEDOM.

Getting around is horrible and slow

Really anyone that has played Elder Scroll Iv or even Morrowind would agree that this game failed.

Im not trying to be smart or anything. Honestly dissapointed with the game. I know however many people do like it and i respect their views. This is just my PERSONAL opion

Played Arena, Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3, and i can honestly say that these games can't be compared to Dragonage, because Bethestad games are sandbox and Dragonage/Bioware games are story driven

the first Bioware game i tried were Knight of the Old Republic, then Mass Effect so i kind of knew what i would get, i loved Mass Effect, and i love Oblivion, but because of different reasons, Oblivion because you are free to do whatever you want, you are not forced to play the main quest..you can jsut explore freely.... where in Dragonage i love the story, and the emotions the characters and the story bring, in Oblivion i feel no emotion, well apart from where Martin Sacrificed himself...

me and a friend tend to rolleplay via MSN and well we ahv ehad more Oblivion and Fallout 3 rolleplays than  Dragonage Rolleplays, due to the freedom of those games, but the one after the one we have now (Fallout 3) is going to be Dragonage

[mathewgurney]

While this particular OP may be a fool and his specific complaints are more about how the developer chose to make thier game rather than "problems", you people who are flaming him and others in multiple threads need to remember that he is playing the Xbox360 version which is a terrible port.

You may be hastily defending the excellent PC version but please don't confuse yourself thinking that the Xbox version is even close to the same game quality, unless you've played the console port you may be mistakenly defending something you have no clue about and would agree was terrible if you'd actually played it.

Seriously it's like two entirely different games and i'm not talking just some graphical quality due to the Xbox system being inferior to the PC, go check out the 360 forum if you really care to understand and are not happy to keep responding to posts in ignorance of what you're speaking about.

And comments about the "console generation" are just pure trolling, you think abusing and insulting instead of educating and informing is productive ?

I started as a PC gamer 23yrs ago "probably before some of you could even say PC and long before daddy bought you the nice system you're playing on now" but am now a console gamer because i have a family to support and a console is cheaper, should i be penalised and denigrated for being a responsible father and not wasting all my cash on getting the best gaming experience possible instead of buying the kids shoes and food etc?

Console gamers paid the same or more for thier copies of the game as you did and yet got fed rotten goods, and in A FAR WORSE WAY THAN CAN BE JUSTIFIED BY THE CONSOLES LIMITATIONS.

Stop reflex-slapping console gamers, maybe try to see them as potential allies who you could help improve and not poor cousins who you can mistreat with impunity, these kids are going to be the ones making your games in a few years, and when they "in response to your abuse" start ignoring the PC to produce solely for the consoles you may start experiencing some serious negative hindsight.

We all know who Bioware are and respect what they create, but Bioware didn't make the console version, "Edge of Reality" did, so literally PC gamers got a game from a respected studio, console gamers got a game from a relatively unknown and low-quality studio doing a poor contracting job without proper supervision.

[SMD010]

Nemanji wrote...

Im sorry but this game was horrible. I sent $114 on a collectors addition copy for the 360 and quit after 20mins.


Some problems that I peronally found:

No first person view
The whole team idea.I dont want to worry about 5 characters at once.
NO JUMP FEATURE. Which means restricted areas.
WHAT HAPPEND TO FREE ROAM??
Bland characters
Always doing quests is boring, you cant even attack friendlies

Really i expected a game one to challenge Bethesda. Oblivion is BY FAR the funner game. Giving the rpg player that what they most desire FREEDOM.

Getting around is horrible and slow

Really anyone that has played Elder Scroll Iv or even Morrowind would agree that this game failed.

Im not trying to be smart or anything. Honestly dissapointed with the game. I know however many people do like it and i respect their views. This is just my PERSONAL opion

Bad troll is bad!

[Stormstrider32]

Nemanji wrote...

Im sorry but this game was horrible. I sent $114 on a collectors addition copy for the 360 and quit after 20mins.


Some problems that I peronally found:

No first person view
The whole team idea.I dont want to worry about 5 characters at once.
NO JUMP FEATURE. Which means restricted areas.
WHAT HAPPEND TO FREE ROAM??
Bland characters
Always doing quests is boring, you cant even attack friendlies

Really i expected a game one to challenge Bethesda. Oblivion is BY FAR the funner game. Giving the rpg player that what they most desire FREEDOM.

Getting around is horrible and slow

Really anyone that has played Elder Scroll Iv or even Morrowind would agree that this game failed.

Im not trying to be smart or anything. Honestly dissapointed with the game. I know however many people do like it and i respect their views. This is just my PERSONAL opion

LOL this is funny

[XOGHunter246]

Well like other have said you brought the game without looking at reviews or feedback about it. You say team thing is bad that is the type of game it is lol a game where you use a team. Also if you wish to solo on the game do so it does not force you use the party. I played elder scrolls found the characters bland in that so and boring.

Advice next time look up the type of game your buying before you decide to get a collectors edition, I would of at least brought the cheaper one if i did not know.

[orpheus333]

Perhaps you should give it another try... 20 minutes is just not long enough a chance. It seems to me that you simply have a difference in playstyle and what you require from an RPG. Thats fine but 'bland' characters? You will not find them in DA. At least compaired to Oblivion or Fallout 3.

[Kavva]

Look at that another xbox kiddy disappointed its not a modern warfare in fantasy style ... hopeless troll...

[Eisberg_DAO]

mathewgurney wrote...

While this particular OP may be a fool and his specific complaints are more about how the developer chose to make thier game rather than "problems", you people who are flaming him and others in multiple threads need to remember that he is playing the Xbox360 version which is a terrible port.
You may be hastily defending the excellent PC version but please don't confuse yourself thinking that the Xbox version is even close to the same game quality, unless you've played the console port you may be mistakenly defending something you have no clue about and would agree was terrible if you'd actually played it.
Seriously it's like two entirely different games and i'm not talking just some graphical quality due to the Xbox system being inferior to the PC, go check out the 360 forum if you really care to understand and are not happy to keep responding to posts in ignorance of what you're speaking about.
And comments about the "console generation" are just pure trolling, you think abusing and insulting instead of educating and informing is productive ?
I started as a PC gamer 23yrs ago "probably before some of you could even say PC and long before daddy bought you the nice system you're playing on now" but am now a console gamer because i have a family to support and a console is cheaper, should i be penalised and denigrated for being a responsible father and not wasting all my cash on getting the best gaming experience possible instead of buying the kids shoes and food etc?
Console gamers paid the same or more for thier copies of the game as you did and yet got fed rotten goods, and in A FAR WORSE WAY THAN CAN BE JUSTIFIED BY THE CONSOLES LIMITATIONS.
Stop reflex-slapping console gamers, maybe try to see them as potential allies who you could help improve and not poor cousins who you can mistreat with impunity, these kids are going to be the ones making your games in a few years, and when they "in response to your abuse" start ignoring the PC to produce solely for the consoles you may start experiencing some serious negative hindsight.
We all know who Bioware are and respect what they create, but Bioware didn't make the console version, "Edge of Reality" did, so literally PC gamers got a game from a respected studio, console gamers got a game from a relatively unknown and low-quality studio doing a poor contracting job without proper supervision.

In before Darth_Tethron(?, spelling) saying that the PC version is the inferior version because it takes 5 hours of headaches to get it working, and a $4000 computer and how PC gaming is dying, and that hardly anybody buys PC games anymore because Gamestop decided to go 99.5% console space.  While forgetting that Digital Download sales, and Physical copies being bought through the Internet are freaking huge, that Brick and Mortar stores aren't really needed anymore to get PC games.

Modifié par Eisberg_DAO, 28 décembre 2009 - 02:40 .

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

So it's ''just your personal opinion'', but you felt you needed to make the topic title:

Dragon Age FAILED.

With FAILED in caps.

Yeah.

Also, let this be a lesson to you: read some goddamn (p)reviews before you buy a game. You have your linear and sandbox RPGS. Oblivion is sandbox, Dragon Age is linear. And no, not all players want ''freedom'', in fact I prefer well-thought out, interesting railroad games, as long as the combat is awesome and the story deep and rewarding. Guess what game I liked.

And how can you give any sort of statement on the perceived blandness of characters after 20 minutes of play? Did you even get out of one Origin story?

All in all, this is a really poorly supported whine topic.

[Thanatos45]

Nemanji wrote...

Im sorry but this game was horrible. I sent $114 on a collectors addition copy for the 360 and quit after 20mins.


Some problems that I peronally found:

No first person view
The whole team idea.I dont want to worry about 5 characters at once.
NO JUMP FEATURE. Which means restricted areas.
WHAT HAPPEND TO FREE ROAM??
Bland characters
Always doing quests is boring, you cant even attack friendlies

Really i expected a game one to challenge Bethesda. Oblivion is BY FAR the funner game. Giving the rpg player that what they most desire FREEDOM.

Getting around is horrible and slow

Really anyone that has played Elder Scroll Iv or even Morrowind would agree that this game failed.

Im not trying to be smart or anything. Honestly dissapointed with the game. I know however many people do like it and i respect their views. This is just my PERSONAL opion

Sounds like you simply picked up the wrong kind of game. You can't really compare Morrowind and Oblivion to games like Dragon Age and the Baldur's Gate series, they are too different from each other. I'd say give the game another chance, 20 minutes is too short to form any kind of educated opinion on a game like this. Also, do your research better next time, because if you did you would've known that this game is nothing like the Elder Scrolls series.

[Creature 1]

Nemanji wrote...
The whole team idea.I dont want to worry about 5 characters at once.

. . .  So you purchased a party-based RPG why??? 

[Edgar.S]

I finished DAO, did almost all of the side quests, and I have to say, I enjoyed Oblivion a lot more. There was simply a lot more to do, and a lot of different ways to do it. The only strength of DAO over Oblivion is the story. I guess you have to sacrifice freedom if you want to have a good story.

I'm not saying that the Oblivion story was bad, there were just a lot of distractions, so it wasn't the main part of the game. Also, DAO it felt a lot like Mass Effect in a fantasy world. The romances and character interactions and everything. I felt like I've done it all before. And the dwarf area part was completely ripped off from Lord of the Rings Online. It's even laid out like Moria.

I was also disappointed by the world design, especially by the B-something forest. Oblivion did it a lot better. The ruins, however, were designed pretty well.

The game was good, but not as good as the reviews say.

Modifié par Edgar.S, 28 décembre 2009 - 02:44 .

[Pseron Wyrd]

Nic-V wrote...
I played and modded both Oblivion and Morrowind and their respective expansions. They are probably the games I have played for most hours out of all games I have ever played. Yet I disagree with you.

I want to second what Nic-V has said here.

Morrowind and Oblivion are my two favorite games.  Much of my life since May, 2002, has centered around these two games: playing, modding, writing over 13,000 posts on the official forums. You would be hard-pressed to find a more hard-core devoted TES fan than myself and I say Dragon Age is a fantastic game.

The games made by Bioware and Bethesda complement each other very well. One company's strengths are the other company's weaknesses. Together they make some of the best cRPGs ever made and it's my opinion that we should be grateful that we live and play when these two gaming companies are at the peak of their powers. Someday gamers will look back on the 2000's and say,"I wish I had lived back then, when companies put out good games."  I don't understand this need people have to put one or the other of these types of games down.

Modifié par Pseron Wyrd, 28 décembre 2009 - 02:49 .