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I hope to God that DA3 has actual armor. No sexualized armor that exposes skin; I want actual, functional suits of chain and platemail that actually block attacks. Total war means everyone should have better armor, even the mages who at the least should have hardplates.

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Well I imagine whoever makes that decision at BioWare will be pleased that you've equated them with the almighty.

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Armor has to be "functional" in real life because a single arrow or swordblow can kill you, or at the very least injure you to the extent that you're incapable of fighting. And no one in real life has to worry about monsters or magic.

In Dragon Age, I can be peppered by arrows, set on fire and impaled by giant blades AND STILL continue to fight.

Point is, I wouldn't get hung up on what type of armour everyone is wearing. Everyone in Dragon Age has redundant organs, 597 pints of blood in their veins and skin as tough as boiled leather. If someone's outfit favours form over functionality, I couldn't give two s**ts, provided it looks good.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 03 octobre 2012 - 04:36 .


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I want characters to wear armor that would fit their personalities. I wouldn't want Isabela in full armor the same way I wouldn't want Aveline in chainmail bikini.

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thats1evildude wrote...

Armor has to be "functional" in real life because a single arrow or swordblow can kill you, or at the very least injure you to the extent that you're incapable of fighting. And no one in real life has to worry about monsters or magic.

In Dragon Age, I can be peppered by arrows, set on fire and impaled by giant blades AND STILL continue to fight.

Point is, I wouldn't get hung up on what type of armour everyone is wearing. Everyone in Dragon Age has redundant organs, 597 pints of blood in their veins and skin as tough as boiled leather. If someone's outfit favours form over functionality, I couldn't give two s**ts, provided it looks good.

*highfives*

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For the most part I would say they've done a good job keeping the oversexed, juvenile designs out of Dragon Age. Isabela is toeing the line IMO, but at least female Wardens and female Hawkes didn't have the options of chainmail bikini, tattered dress, or metal bits covering nothing but the nipples and bajingo.

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thats1evildude wrote...

Armor has to be "functional" in real life because a single arrow or swordblow can kill you, or at the very least injure you to the extent that you're incapable of fighting. And no one in real life has to worry about monsters or magic.

In Dragon Age, I can be peppered by arrows, set on fire and impaled by giant blades AND STILL continue to fight.

Point is, I wouldn't get hung up on what type of armour everyone is wearing. Everyone in Dragon Age has redundant organs, 597 pints of blood in their veins and skin as tough as boiled leather. If someone's outfit favours form over functionality, I couldn't give two s**ts, provided it looks good.



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BrotherWarth wrote...

For the most part I would say they've done a good job keeping the oversexed, juvenile designs out of Dragon Age. Isabela is toeing the line IMO, but at least female Wardens and female Hawkes didn't have the options of chainmail bikini, tattered dress, or metal bits covering nothing but the nipples and bajingo.


Isabela made sense. She was a pirate and a ****, I don't think she would wear knightly plate armor.

Edit: I like how my five-letter word got changed into FOUR "*"

Modifié par AlienWolf728, 03 octobre 2012 - 04:57 .


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No more of those ridiculous unreasonable spikes in DA2. They were just far too much. The Kirkwall Champion armors had ridiculous impractical spikes and sharp angles that looked like they would seriously harm or kill the wearer if he so much as falls at a wrong angle. And Maker help the people who walk and brush too closely to those sharp spikes and angles. The Rogue armor is not even a real armor. Mostly a bunch of belts across the chest. 

Modifié par Vit246, 03 octobre 2012 - 05:38 .


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AlienWolf728 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

For the most part I would say they've done a good job keeping the oversexed, juvenile designs out of Dragon Age. Isabela is toeing the line IMO, but at least female Wardens and female Hawkes didn't have the options of chainmail bikini, tattered dress, or metal bits covering nothing but the nipples and bajingo.


Isabela made sense. She was a pirate and a ****, I don't think she would wear knightly plate armor.

Edit: I like how my five-letter word got changed into FOUR "*"


Why is it that any time anyone brings up Isabela having no pants people always go straight to "What, she should be wearing heavy plate?" You know, there is quite a lot in between.

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BrotherWarth wrote...

AlienWolf728 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

For the most part I would say they've done a good job keeping the oversexed, juvenile designs out of Dragon Age. Isabela is toeing the line IMO, but at least female Wardens and female Hawkes didn't have the options of chainmail bikini, tattered dress, or metal bits covering nothing but the nipples and bajingo.


Isabela made sense. She was a pirate and a ****, I don't think she would wear knightly plate armor.

Edit: I like how my five-letter word got changed into FOUR "*"


Why is it that any time anyone brings up Isabela having no pants people always go straight to "What, she should be wearing heavy plate?" You know, there is quite a lot in between.

Because it's the only argument needed.

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AlienWolf728 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

AlienWolf728 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

For the most part I would say they've done a good job keeping the oversexed, juvenile designs out of Dragon Age. Isabela is toeing the line IMO, but at least female Wardens and female Hawkes didn't have the options of chainmail bikini, tattered dress, or metal bits covering nothing but the nipples and bajingo.


Isabela made sense. She was a pirate and a ****, I don't think she would wear knightly plate armor.

Edit: I like how my five-letter word got changed into FOUR "*"


Why is it that any time anyone brings up Isabela having no pants people always go straight to "What, she should be wearing heavy plate?" You know, there is quite a lot in between.

Because it's the only argument needed.


A silly, nonsensical argument is the only that's needed?

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I'll never understand the people that cry for realism in fantasy games.

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Nothing wrong with "sexualized" armor if it fits the character/lore and is believable. None of the characters were bad in DA2. All their armor made sense. Isabella showing a little skin made sense for her character. She looked fine.

Besides, I enjoy very distinguised looks on my companions that represent their personality. Iconic looks is the way to go. DA3 sounds like the best of both worlds. Customizaion AND iconic. Heck yes.

I do agree though, please give mages actual armor. If they're going to be sitting on the line, it's reasonable to believe they'll wear at least light armor. Also, more reason to allow us more proficiency like DA:O. I could wear heavy armor on my mage. Any excuse to get rid of the dunce caps and dresses/robes please...

I want to look badass as a mage. Not a mage who looks like he's about to go to a recital.

Modifié par deuce985, 03 octobre 2012 - 05:18 .


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Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

I'll never understand the people that cry for realism in fantasy games.


When things get very stylized they can be goofy.

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BrotherWarth wrote...

AlienWolf728 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

For the most part I would say they've done a good job keeping the oversexed, juvenile designs out of Dragon Age. Isabela is toeing the line IMO, but at least female Wardens and female Hawkes didn't have the options of chainmail bikini, tattered dress, or metal bits covering nothing but the nipples and bajingo.


Isabela made sense. She was a pirate and a ****, I don't think she would wear knightly plate armor.

Edit: I like how my five-letter word got changed into FOUR "*"


Why is it that any time anyone brings up Isabela having no pants people always go straight to "What, she should be wearing heavy plate?" You know, there is quite a lot in between.


Why is that any time anyone brings up Isabela having no pants people always go straight to "Man, she's such a ****."?

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BrotherWarth wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

I'll never understand the people that cry for realism in fantasy games.


When things get very stylized they can be goofy.

or very cool

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BrotherWarth wrote...

AlienWolf728 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

AlienWolf728 wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

For the most part I would say they've done a good job keeping the oversexed, juvenile designs out of Dragon Age. Isabela is toeing the line IMO, but at least female Wardens and female Hawkes didn't have the options of chainmail bikini, tattered dress, or metal bits covering nothing but the nipples and bajingo.


Isabela made sense. She was a pirate and a ****, I don't think she would wear knightly plate armor.

Edit: I like how my five-letter word got changed into FOUR "*"


Why is it that any time anyone brings up Isabela having no pants people always go straight to "What, she should be wearing heavy plate?" You know, there is quite a lot in between.

Because it's the only argument needed.


A silly, nonsensical argument is the only that's needed?

Simply calling something silly and nonsensical does not make it so.

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AlienWolf728 wrote...

Simply calling something silly and nonsensical does not make it so.


Arguing extremes is always silly. If I said "Drinking too much coffee can be bad for you" and you responded by saying "What, so no one can ever drink again?!" that would be silly. It's arguing the extreme and it's childish.


Dhiro wrote...

Why is that any time anyone brings up Isabela having no pants people always go straight to "Man, she's such a ****."?


Yeah, that's a bit...sexist. Anders was as much a ***** in Awakening but no one lobbed such insults his way.


Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...
or very cool


True. But I would argue that that's rarely the case. Things like Tera, for instance...

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you know... i think people need to get there heads out of there behinds. Look at ANY pirate ship, they didn't wear heavy metal suits. and if the women thought they would get raped they would have more than likely have worn what Isabella did. And from what I understand the female ship captain/s (i think there where 3, but 2 where a lez or bi, and on the same ship) they wore some open stuff at the time.

So isy's clothes don't really seem to be that off from IRL

Most of the armor in Da2 was fine. the only one that may not have been was the chapions armor. thats it. And do you really expect mages to wear heavy armor?? have any of you even tried a suit of armor?? yes you have some flexablity but it has limits. and is some armors it would lock up if you move a certien way.

So IMO get off this "proper armor" crap. why doesn't BW just make magic tanks everyone rolls around in, then people would complain they are in tanks.

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Nightdragon8 wrote...

you know... i think people need to get there heads out of there behinds. Look at ANY pirate ship, they didn't wear heavy metal suits. and if the women thought they would get raped they would have more than likely have worn what Isabella did. And from what I understand the female ship captain/s (i think there where 3, but 2 where a lez or bi, and on the same ship) they wore some open stuff at the time.

So isy's clothes don't really seem to be that off from IRL

Most of the armor in Da2 was fine. the only one that may not have been was the chapions armor. thats it. And do you really expect mages to wear heavy armor?? have any of you even tried a suit of armor?? yes you have some flexablity but it has limits. and is some armors it would lock up if you move a certien way.

So IMO get off this "proper armor" crap. why doesn't BW just make magic tanks everyone rolls around in, then people would complain they are in tanks.


Yes. If they sacrifice certain proficiency in magic and train harder towards combat armor, why not? Nothing in the lore prevents mages from wearing heavy armor and in DAO you could make Arcane Warriors...

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I do like the idea of some mages being able to wear light armor, if they meet certain attribute standards. I also wish there'd be more robes (and by robes, I mean any type of clothing that's battle-appropriate) for mages that aren't necessarily... "OH HEY LOOK I'M A MAGE," if said mage is, in fact, an apostate. Like, Bethany running around Kirkwall in Circle robes was a tad obvious.

I guess I just like the idea of variety. And spending lots of time and money on things. As always.

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Lokiwithrope wrote...

I hope to God that DA3 has actual armor. No sexualized armor that exposes skin; I want actual, functional suits of chain and platemail that actually block attacks. Total war means everyone should have better armor, even the mages who at the least should have hardplates.

I would think that "total war" would mean that anyone who wanted or had to take up arms would make do with whatever he/she could acquire. Not everyone, even the heroes, may have access to armories, to vast resources of sturdy arms and equipment, or the coin necessary to craft sturdy armor for entire armies and large groups of citizen-soldiers, so you would just have to grab what you can and step into the fray. 

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I just hope there's no rogue armor that looks like pajamas.  

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I think the Dragon Age games have been pretty good when it comes to functional armour. Isabela and Morrigan are the only characters I can think of that reveal a lot of skin, but it fits their respective characters.