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N7 Paladin Guide: ICE and FIRE


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Can a fire shield bash set off a cryo explosion if you have snap frozen critters? With my last build I didn't take anything in ED at all and maxed out everything else. I just spam freeze like there is no tommorrow and then incinerate to set of explosion.

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Beerfish wrote...

Can a fire shield bash set off a cryo explosion if you have snap frozen critters? With my last build I didn't take anything in ED at all and maxed out everything else. I just spam freeze like there is no tommorrow and then incinerate to set of explosion.


I'll test it out and see, give me a few minutes! ^_^

Tested: It doesn't seem to work that way! If you intend on making Cyroblasts I theorize that cryoshield will interact with incinerate or energy drain much like fire shield interacts with cyro; shield bash and then drain in this case!

Modifié par Rudest, 15 octobre 2012 - 06:14 .


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Great guide. You should put in sample builds too; one of the issues I have with the class is deciding what to actually take and ignore.

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Apl_J wrote...

Great guide. You should put in sample builds too; one of the issues I have with the class is deciding what to actually take and ignore.


Thank you! And that's a problem I've had too, I didnt get into this class until a few weeks ago because I didn't know exactly how I'd like to play him. There are alot of small nuances to consider about the shield and power selection are hard to caption in text.

However, after playing around I did find the build listed to be what caters to my playstyle best! It's built around a balance of debuffing, damage, meleeing, survivability and damage! He does all of these things, and does them suprisingly well!

The new changes to tech explosions and incenerate beg for the power ot be used and implmented in an alternate build and I might touch on that in the future! 

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Beerfish wrote...

Can a fire shield bash set off a cryo explosion if you have snap frozen critters? With my last build I didn't take anything in ED at all and maxed out everything else. I just spam freeze like there is no tommorrow and then incinerate to set of explosion.


Nope. Shield bashes prime but don't detonate. If I am aiming for an explosion I bash first, snapfreeze later.

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Updated! Added a reference link to Tech Burst/Explosion combos! Added a tactics for dealing with Cerberus Dragoons since some people are having trouble with them!

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Dunvi wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Can a fire shield bash set off a cryo explosion if you have snap frozen critters? With my last build I didn't take anything in ED at all and maxed out everything else. I just spam freeze like there is no tommorrow and then incinerate to set of explosion.


Nope. Shield bashes prime but don't detonate. If I am aiming for an explosion I bash first, snapfreeze later.


Thanks for that.  I can do that.  I have been snap freezign and incienrating, that works well but would like to use the shield to set up or exolode things.  Priming with shield is fine.

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I've played some Paladin before with moderate success, never really got the flow down. Now I'm gonna try this build out. Thanks for the guide! Will let you know how it goes.

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Blitzkrieg_33 wrote...

I've played some Paladin before with moderate success, never really got the flow down. Now I'm gonna try this build out. Thanks for the guide! Will let you know how it goes.


Sweet! Hope it works out for you!

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Very Nice Post!

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shucks the paladin was my little secret weapon. now everyone knows.


I have never used any of the fire skills though. I go all ice and melee.

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http://social.biowar...index/14646401' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'> http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/14646401

This may contain some useful informations as well as some combos.

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Anyone else thinking that the picture looks very

Borderland-ish?

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Next Balance Changes:

-Cryo explosions stack up to 3 times
-Paladin can now move with his omni-shield in place
-Paladin's ascension to Godliness complete

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Do you have any more guides for other characters?

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With the new cryo and fire explosion mechanics, this class is borderline overpowered... Nice guide, thanks!

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I'm not much for reading essays but that image is freaking nice. Did you draw/design that?

One hundred internets awarded for creatve awesomeness:wizard:.

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That is a pretty sweet image.

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Awesome guide, and +100 points for the badass image!

I have my Paladin almost spec'd the same way, except I skipped rank 6 on his passive and went for Incinerate for utility.

I prefer to put Cyro Ammo on him, since, after all, I gotta live up to my name! (ArchDuke Frosty on the 360)

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Great guide, but missing one critical component: the proper title.

"A Guide of Ice and Fire: The N7 Paladin"

Make it happen.

Also, I personally think the optimal Paladin build MUST have incinerate; ED does not detonate any techsplosions vs. health or armor, but Incinerate / Snap Freeze are amazing together.

They both prime each other after detonating, so you can chain fire explosion -> cryo explosion -> fire explosion -> cryo explosion all day long.  

And would better justify your title!

Modifié par DarthVarner, 26 octobre 2012 - 11:34 .


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 Would you mind if I added your guide here?

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synapsefire wrote...

I'm not much for reading essays but that image is freaking nice. Did you draw/design that?

One hundred internets awarded for creatve awesomeness:wizard:.



The Paladin image itself is of course Bioware's, but the backround I painted in photoshop, and then applied various filters, gradients, and what have you! Thanks everyone who complimented on my image! I am sort of self taught, it's more a recreational thing than anything else lol. Thanks for the compliments on my artwork everyone!

Thanks Graal and others who complimented on the guide.

I don't have any others up yet, but i'd willing to make another one! Suggestions on what I should cover next are welcome!

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Crimson Vanguard wrote...

 Would you mind if I added your guide here?


Sure go ahead ^_^

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DarthVarner wrote...

Great guide, but missing one critical component: the proper title.

"A Guide of Ice and Fire: The N7 Paladin"

Make it happen.

Also, I personally think the optimal Paladin build MUST have incinerate; ED does not detonate any techsplosions vs. health or armor, but Incinerate / Snap Freeze are amazing together.

They both prime each other after detonating, so you can chain fire explosion -> cryo explosion -> fire explosion -> cryo explosion all day long.  

And would better justify your title!


Yeah the changes to incerinate and tech/fire/cyro explosion combos in general have really breathed some life into incenerate as a power. I still like this build for the versatility it offers, but I am working on peicing together an explosion focused build to post as an alternative!

Modifié par Rudest, 27 octobre 2012 - 02:26 .


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I just respecced my paladin a few days ago to take advantage of the new tech burst abilities. I like a 66644 build, with Incinerate specced Radius, Burn damage, Armor Damage. I sacrifice the Cryo shield, but it is a great build I think. Incinerate gives you the same fire explosion you describe from the fire shield bash, only at range. It also gives you a ranged damage attack option and no longer has a good reason to be skipped I think.

Either way, loved your write up and the image as other have said. I like guides and this is one of the more memorable ones on the forums.