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[Maxster_]

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...
Yeah, sure Dreman said, that "indirect hit" of something like that, was enough for Shepard to survive Harbringer's main gun shot.

The weapon the Reapers fire from beneath their "mouths" is significantly less effective than the shots they fire from their "tentacles." This has it's place in the lore too, as the longer the barrel, the faster the projectile (since all mass effect projectiles are moved by coil guns).

That may have been your point, but whoever it was, they're correct.

Sovereign

Sovereign is the flagship of the rogue Spectre Saren Arterius. An enormous dreadnought larger than any other ship in any known fleet, Sovereign is crewed with both geth and krogan. At TWO KILOMETER LONG, ITS SPINAL-MOUNTED MAIN GUN is likely capable of penetrating another dreadnought's kinetic barriers with a single shot.

The prevailing opinion is that Sovereign is a geth construct, while others believe it is a Prothean relic. Its design, however, hints at a more alien and mysterious origin. The attack on Eden Prime demonstrated Sovereign's ability to generate mass effect fields powerful enough to land on a planetary surface. This implies it has a massive element zero core, and the ability to generate staggering amounts of power.

Your mising the factthat is the same gun that enispire the design of the thanix cannon which can be put on any ship. It's just like every reaper cannon that can one shop any ship in mass effect 3. And the cannon fire are all seen as beams.

It is only means that thanix cannons on allied ship WEAKER than those on reapers.

[dreman9999]

[quote]Maxster_ wrote...

[quote]MyChemicalBromance wrote...

[quote]Maxster_ wrote...

[quote]MyChemicalBromance wrote...

[quote]Urdnot Amenark wrote...

[quote]MyChemicalBromance wrote...

So from what I can gather, Maxter got called out on not knowing the lore, and now he's trying to compensate by talking out of his ass about things above his paygrade.[/quote]

Not exactly, this time.

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I see three pages of him attacking other users for not understanding "physics," when he himself is the only one introducing the topics. He's turning people into straw men, and then actually manages to **** up the physics he tries to throw back at them. Here's a thought Max, Dreadnought rounds only mass 20 kilograms. Are you really trying to argue that the massive, relatively slow-moving thanix shots that are so much better are only 20 kilograms?

Or am I missing some redeeming quality about what he's doing?[/quote]
Prove that statement with my posts.
I attacked only dreman, because, obviously, he doesn't knows anything about physics.
[/quote]
Which statement?
[/quote]
I see three pages of him attacking other users for not understanding "physics.
It is your lie. Because I "attacked" only dreman.

Lies, you know, is not an arguments
[quote]
Also prove your assertion about "relatively slower".
[/quote]
It has travel time. In particular, focus on the cut right before it impacts. That's very slow compared rounds we see fired in the ME1 cutscene with Sovereign, and about equal with the thanix shots we see fired during the ME3 final battle.
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LOL
So you are showing me video, that directly CONTRADICTS the codex, and calling that "proof"

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That contridicts nothing. That's how it works. It works just like it said in the lore.

[Maxster_]

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

So from what I can gather, Maxter got called out on not knowing the lore, and now he's trying to compensate by talking out of his ass about things above his paygrade.

Not exactly, this time.

I see three pages of him attacking other users for not understanding "physics," when he himself is the only one introducing the topics. He's turning people into straw men, and then actually manages to **** up the physics he tries to throw back at them. Here's a thought Max, Dreadnought rounds only mass 20 kilograms. Are you really trying to argue that the massive, relatively slow-moving thanix shots that are so much better are only 20 kilograms?

Or am I missing some redeeming quality about what he's doing?

Prove that statement with my posts.
I attacked only dreman, because, obviously, he doesn't knows anything about physics.

Which statement?

I see three pages of him attacking other users for not understanding "physics.
It is your lie. Because I "attacked" only dreman.

Lies, you know, is not an arguments

Also prove your assertion about "relatively slower".

It has travel time. In particular, focus on the cut right before it impacts. That's very slow compared rounds we see fired in the ME1 cutscene with Sovereign, and about equal with the thanix shots we see fired during the ME3 final battle.

LOL
So you are showing me video, that directly CONTRADICTS the codex, and calling that "proof"

That contridicts nothing. That's how it works. It works just like it said in the lore.

The Thanix's core is a liquid alloy of iron, uranium, and tungsten
suspended in an electromagnetic field powered by element zero. The
MOLTEN METAL, ACCELERATED TO A SIGNIFICANT FRACTION OF THE SPEED OF LIGHT, solidifies into a projectile as it is fired, hitting targets with
enough force to pierce any known shield or armor. The gun can fire
reliably every five seconds. The weapon's relatively small size allows
it to be mounted on most fighters or frigates, including the Normandy SR-2, and gives them firepower rivaling cruisers.

Modifié par Maxster_, 06 octobre 2012 - 07:28 .

[dreman9999]

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...
Yeah, sure Dreman said, that "indirect hit" of something like that, was enough for Shepard to survive Harbringer's main gun shot.

The weapon the Reapers fire from beneath their "mouths" is significantly less effective than the shots they fire from their "tentacles." This has it's place in the lore too, as the longer the barrel, the faster the projectile (since all mass effect projectiles are moved by coil guns).

That may have been your point, but whoever it was, they're correct.

Sovereign

Sovereign is the flagship of the rogue Spectre Saren Arterius. An enormous dreadnought larger than any other ship in any known fleet, Sovereign is crewed with both geth and krogan. At TWO KILOMETER LONG, ITS SPINAL-MOUNTED MAIN GUN is likely capable of penetrating another dreadnought's kinetic barriers with a single shot.

The prevailing opinion is that Sovereign is a geth construct, while others believe it is a Prothean relic. Its design, however, hints at a more alien and mysterious origin. The attack on Eden Prime demonstrated Sovereign's ability to generate mass effect fields powerful enough to land on a planetary surface. This implies it has a massive element zero core, and the ability to generate staggering amounts of power.

Your mising the factthat is the same gun that enispire the design of the thanix cannon which can be put on any ship. It's just like every reaper cannon that can one shop any ship in mass effect 3. And the cannon fire are all seen as beams.

It is only means that thanix cannons on allied ship WEAKER than those on reapers.

The thanix cannon is the only type of cannon that can damage and kill reaper ship out side or drednaughts...And it can be put on any size ship. Andit works better the drednaught cannons Fighters can kill reapers with it.

If you going on that the cannon size is keep to damaging a reaper then why does a thenix cannon no matter the size can do a better just then drednaught fire?

Hell, tell me how thanix cannon fire pierces through kinetic barriers no matter what size ship it's put on?

[dreman9999]

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

Urdnot Amenark wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

So from what I can gather, Maxter got called out on not knowing the lore, and now he's trying to compensate by talking out of his ass about things above his paygrade.

Not exactly, this time.

I see three pages of him attacking other users for not understanding "physics," when he himself is the only one introducing the topics. He's turning people into straw men, and then actually manages to **** up the physics he tries to throw back at them. Here's a thought Max, Dreadnought rounds only mass 20 kilograms. Are you really trying to argue that the massive, relatively slow-moving thanix shots that are so much better are only 20 kilograms?

Or am I missing some redeeming quality about what he's doing?

Prove that statement with my posts.
I attacked only dreman, because, obviously, he doesn't knows anything about physics.

Which statement?

I see three pages of him attacking other users for not understanding "physics.
It is your lie. Because I "attacked" only dreman.

Lies, you know, is not an arguments

Also prove your assertion about "relatively slower".

It has travel time. In particular, focus on the cut right before it impacts. That's very slow compared rounds we see fired in the ME1 cutscene with Sovereign, and about equal with the thanix shots we see fired during the ME3 final battle.

LOL
So you are showing me video, that directly CONTRADICTS the codex, and calling that "proof"

That contridicts nothing. That's how it works. It works just like it said in the lore.

The Thanix's core is a liquid alloy of iron, uranium, and tungsten
suspended in an electromagnetic field powered by element zero. The
MOLTEN METAL, ACCELERATED TO A SIGNIFICANT FRACTION OF THE SPEED OF LIGHT, solidifies into a projectile as it is fired, hitting targets with
enough force to pierce any known shield or armor. The gun can fire
reliably every five seconds. The weapon's relatively small size allows
it to be mounted on most fighters or frigates, including the Normandy SR-2, and gives them firepower rivaling cruisers.

Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit an object.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

[N7 Lisbeth]

nopantsisabela wrote...

I just got on BSN for the first time in months and happened to see some thread debating if conventional victory should have been possible or not. This reminded me of one reason that I was so confused by the ME3 ending: was anyone else expecting the whole theme of cooperation to be the ultimate reason why "this time" the Reapers could be beaten? 

In my opinion, the "if we work together, we can do anything!" theme was a pretty heavy one all throughout ME1 and 2 and then during the Thessia mission in ME3 the VI pretty much tells you that this cycle's sentient races are much more unified and therin might lie your salvation.

I totally expected this to be the reason for your victory over the Reapers, and it seemed really fitting. In order for conventional victory to be possible, this cycle would have to have something that other cycles didn't, and ultimately, the reason for this cycle being so unified is Shepard (who's been the main instigator of all the cooperative activity between the different races).

Just curious if anyone else had felt similarly about this.

Yes, OP. I expected a tough decision, not an insane AI thrown at us at the last minute and doing what it says for no reason.

That tough decision should have included a victory through some sort of conventional means, e.g., the whole unity and diversity theme they had been developing through all three games and the pivotal plot point of ME3. Why else do you think we're gathering allies and EMS? What other purpose does it serve? None.

Conventional victory or death!

[Maxster_]

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...
Yeah, sure Dreman said, that "indirect hit" of something like that, was enough for Shepard to survive Harbringer's main gun shot.

The weapon the Reapers fire from beneath their "mouths" is significantly less effective than the shots they fire from their "tentacles." This has it's place in the lore too, as the longer the barrel, the faster the projectile (since all mass effect projectiles are moved by coil guns).

That may have been your point, but whoever it was, they're correct.

Sovereign

Sovereign is the flagship of the rogue Spectre Saren Arterius. An enormous dreadnought larger than any other ship in any known fleet, Sovereign is crewed with both geth and krogan. At TWO KILOMETER LONG, ITS SPINAL-MOUNTED MAIN GUN is likely capable of penetrating another dreadnought's kinetic barriers with a single shot.

The prevailing opinion is that Sovereign is a geth construct, while others believe it is a Prothean relic. Its design, however, hints at a more alien and mysterious origin. The attack on Eden Prime demonstrated Sovereign's ability to generate mass effect fields powerful enough to land on a planetary surface. This implies it has a massive element zero core, and the ability to generate staggering amounts of power.

Your mising the factthat is the same gun that enispire the design of the thanix cannon which can be put on any ship. It's just like every reaper cannon that can one shop any ship in mass effect 3. And the cannon fire are all seen as beams.

It is only means that thanix cannons on allied ship WEAKER than those on reapers.

The thanix cannon is the only type of cannon that can damage and kill reaper ship out side or drednaughts...And it can be put on any size ship. Andit works better the drednaught cannons Fighters can kill reapers with it.

If you going on that the cannon size is keep to damaging a reaper then why does a thenix cannon no matter the size can do a better just then drednaught fire?

Hell, tell me how thanix cannon fire pierces through kinetic barriers no matter what size ship it's put on?

It is as stated in codex, are more powerful than standart kinetic guns.
So it is obviously better to use.

http://masseffect.wi...dex/The_Reapers

Reaper Capabilities

The Reapers are technologically superior to the organic species of the galaxy -- but the degree of that superiority is a matter of debate in the intelligence community.

The Reapers' thrusters and FTL drives appear to propel them at more than twice the speed of Citadel ships. Estimates of their location in dark space suggest they can travel nearly 30 light-years in a 24-hour period.

Reaper power sources seem to violate known physical laws. Reapers usually destroy fuel infrastructure rather than attempting to capture it intact, indicating that Reapers do not require organic species' energy supplies. Consequently, the Reapers attack without regard for maintaining supply lines behind them, except to move husks from one planet to another. Unlike Citadel ships, Reapers do not appear to discharge static buildup from their drive cores, although they sometimes appear wreathed in static discharge when they land on planets.

The main gun on a Reaper capital ship dwarfs that of the Alliance's Everest-class dreadnoughts. No dreadnought has yet survived a direct hit from the weapon. Estimates put its destructive power anywhere from 132 to 454 kilotons of TNT. Even if the target is hardened, as in the case of a surface-based missile silo, the gun can instead bury the target beneath molten metal. Precise targeting computers and correctors also give the Reaper weapons a longer effective range than organics' dreadnoughts or cruisers.

The kinetic barriers on a Reaper capital ship can shrug off the firepower of a small fleet. Weapons specifically designed to overcome shields, such as the Javelin, GARDIAN lasers, or the Thanix series, CAN BYPASS THE BARRIERS TO A SOME DEGREE The difficulty is getting close enough to use them -- the surface-mounted weaponry on Reaper ships, similar in principle to GARDIAN, presents an effective defense against organic species' fighters.

[Maxster_]

dreman9999 wrote...
Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit an object.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

That is gibberish.

[MyChemicalBromance]

dreman9999 wrote...

Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit an object.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

In atmosphere it does, in space not so much. Still, the way the codex describes it, it's almost as if the acceleration forms the projectile, the speed of which isn't described.

Keep in mind that the Codex also says the Cain fires at a significant fraction of the speed of light (which it clearly doesn't), so it seems that kind of thing isn't always final. That's good too, because if they Cain worked that way, it would essentially be a massive mass accelerator, and then we'd need an explanation for why Shepard doesn't fly away when firing it.

In conclusion (as in I'm out of here), I can't believe the amount of condescension coming from Maxter a few pages back though. I'm left to think you don't actually have any idea what you're talking about, you're backed into a corner, and you're embarrassed. Get off dreman's case, because you don't have any dignity left to win.

[Little Princess Peach]

I expected to win without blowing shepard up like a nuke, really I don't see how we could win in a conventional way, the Reapers take a lot of resources to kill, in ME1 it took the entier Aliance fleet plus others just to take down one Reaper tis nuts.

[Maxster_]

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Modifié par Maxster_, 06 octobre 2012 - 07:52 .

[Maxster_]

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

In conclusion (as in I'm out of here), I can't believe the amount of condescension coming from Maxter a few pages back though. I'm left to think you don't actually have any idea what you're talking about, you're backed into a corner, and you're embarrassed. Get off dreman's case, because you don't have any dignity left to win.

Sure, sure. And that comes from person, who spread lies, and uses video that directly CONTRADICTS a lot of codex entries, as a proof.
And then runs away caught on lies and not knowing the codex. :D


You REALLY have a lot of credibility :D:D:D

Modifié par Maxster_, 06 octobre 2012 - 07:51 .

[BerzerkGene]

dreman9999 wrote...

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

You clearly don't understand physics in space.
Did you not listen to that guy shouting about Newton in ME2?

[BerzerkGene]

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

It has travel time. In particular, focus on the cut right before it impacts. That's very slow compared rounds we see fired in the ME1 cutscene with Sovereign, and about equal with the thanix shots we see fired during the ME3 final battle.

The thanix was only used by the Normandy a few times against occuli during the battle for earth, no other thanix cannons were used in the entire game.(That we can see).

[dreman9999]

BerzerkGene wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

You clearly don't understand physics in space.
Did you not listen to that guy shouting about Newton in ME2?

Slow down does not mean stop. An object in motion says in motion to it reaches an equal or opposite force. AKA, shot an arrow forward and it drop.


And object , even in space can go to slower spped of ftl over time. And object continues to go forward in space but not at the same speed as it starts. That justmeans it keeps moving.

[dreman9999]

BerzerkGene wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

It has travel time. In particular, focus on the cut right before it impacts. That's very slow compared rounds we see fired in the ME1 cutscene with Sovereign, and about equal with the thanix shots we see fired during the ME3 final battle.

The thanix was only used by the Normandy a few times against occuli during the battle for earth, no other thanix cannons were used in the entire game.(That we can see).

All ship have it in mass effect 3. Each cannon is not equal power.

[dreman9999]

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit an object.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

That is gibberish.

That's an object in motion stays in motion till it reachand equal and opposete force. That your physic your screaming about.

[Maxster_]

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit an object.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

That is gibberish.

That's an object in motion stays in motion till it reachand equal and opposete force. That your physic your screaming about.

That's not "mine" physics. That's everyone's physics. That is a lot of proven scientific theories, that comes under that definition.
But, well, irrelevant to the point.

Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The
speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit
an object.

This is gibberish. I can't translate that.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

And this is false. Space is empty. And atmosphere(Earth atmosphere) take like 20% speed of kinetic projectile, thus lowering kinetic energy of the impact by that amount.

Modifié par Maxster_, 06 octobre 2012 - 08:21 .

[dreman9999]

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit an object.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

That is gibberish.

That's an object in motion stays in motion till it reachand equal and opposete force. That your physic your screaming about.

That's not "mine" physics. That's everyone's physics. That is a lot of proven scientific theories, that comes under that definition.
But, well, irrelevant to the point.

Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The
speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit
an object.

This is gibberish. I can't translate that.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

And this is false. Space is empty. And atmosphere(Earth atmosphere) take like 20% speed of kinetic projectile, thus lowering kinetic energy of the impact by that amount.

I'm talk about a object in ftl. It would get dramaictly slower but it will slow down. Something moving at flt or near ftl will slow down because of it mass and near by particals. It would slow to a crawl but it won't be in ftl for very long.

[Maxster_]

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit an object.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

That is gibberish.

That's an object in motion stays in motion till it reachand equal and opposete force. That your physic your screaming about.

That's not "mine" physics. That's everyone's physics. That is a lot of proven scientific theories, that comes under that definition.
But, well, irrelevant to the point.

Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The
speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit
an object.

This is gibberish. I can't translate that.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

And this is false. Space is empty. And atmosphere(Earth atmosphere) take like 20% speed of kinetic projectile, thus lowering kinetic energy of the impact by that amount.

I'm talk about a object in ftl. It would get dramaictly slower but it will slow down. Something moving at flt or near ftl will slow down because of it mass and near by particals. It would slow to a crawl but it won't be in ftl for very long.

What?! FTL speed is a FASTER THAN LIGHT SPEED. How something THAT IS FASTER THAN LIGHT can be at a FRACTION OF LIGHT'S SPEED?:O:O:O

What that nonsense is about at all? What it has to do with KINETIC WEAPONS from Mass Effect? Like a Earth Alliance dreadnought's projectile which is 4000 km/s, which is 1.3%(a fraction) of the LIGHT'S SPEED?

Modifié par Maxster_, 06 octobre 2012 - 08:34 .

[dreman9999]

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit an object.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

That is gibberish.

That's an object in motion stays in motion till it reachand equal and opposete force. That your physic your screaming about.

That's not "mine" physics. That's everyone's physics. That is a lot of proven scientific theories, that comes under that definition.
But, well, irrelevant to the point.

Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The
speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit
an object.

This is gibberish. I can't translate that.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

And this is false. Space is empty. And atmosphere(Earth atmosphere) take like 20% speed of kinetic projectile, thus lowering kinetic energy of the impact by that amount.

I'm talk about a object in ftl. It would get dramaictly slower but it will slow down. Something moving at flt or near ftl will slow down because of it mass and near by particals. It would slow to a crawl but it won't be in ftl for very long.

What?! FTL speed is a FASTER THAN LIGHT SPEED. How something THAT IS FASTER THAN LIGHT can be at a FRACTION OF LIGHT'S SPEED?:O:O:O

What that nonsense is about at all? What it has to do with KINETIC WEAPONS from Mass Effect? Like a Earth Alliance dreadnought's projectile which is 4000 km/s, which is 1.3%(a fraction) of the LIGHT'S SPEED?

My point is that the projectile would not be as fast as you claining it to be. The codex stated the thanix cannon fired near fraction of the sppen of light. My point is that object can slow down in space but not dramiticly. Even if it is a faction of the speed of light. You also have to count distance as well. 

And stop saying a slug form a drednought is the same as a thanix cannon. If your going to say that barreir size of the cannon an indicater of effectiveness of  impact than that would mean a thanix cannon would not be possible to pierce a reaper kinatic sheilds.

Modifié par dreman9999, 06 octobre 2012 - 09:07 .

[BerzerkGene]

dreman9999 wrote...

BerzerkGene wrote...

MyChemicalBromance wrote...

It has travel time. In particular, focus on the cut right before it impacts. That's very slow compared rounds we see fired in the ME1 cutscene with Sovereign, and about equal with the thanix shots we see fired during the ME3 final battle.

The thanix was only used by the Normandy a few times against occuli during the battle for earth, no other thanix cannons were used in the entire game.(That we can see).

All ship have it in mass effect 3. Each cannon is not equal power.

No, most ships, particulary in the turian military and alliance have them, but they are never used except by the normandy.
None seem to be mounted on fighters either.

[BerzerkGene]

dreman9999 wrote...

BerzerkGene wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

You clearly don't understand physics in space.
Did you not listen to that guy shouting about Newton in ME2?

Slow down does not mean stop. An object in motion says in motion to it reaches an equal or opposite force. AKA, shot an arrow forward and it drop.


And object , even in space can go to slower spped of ftl over time. And object continues to go forward in space but not at the same speed as it starts. That justmeans it keeps moving.

"Space is empty, if you fire this thing, it keeps going until it hits something! That might be a ship, or the planet behind that ship. It might go off into space and hit something in TEN THOUSAND YEARS."

Firing anything in space unless it was greatly affected the gravitational pull of something(like say, a sun) would remain at the speed it was fired at.

[Maxster_]

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

[quote]Maxster_ wrote...

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

[quote]Maxster_ wrote...

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...

[quote]Maxster_ wrote...

[quote]dreman9999 wrote...
Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit an object.

And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.

[/quote]
That is gibberish.

[/quote]That's an object in motion stays in motion till it reachand equal and opposete force. That your physic your screaming about.
[/quote]
That's not "mine" physics. That's everyone's physics. That is a lot of proven scientific theories, that comes under that definition.
But, well, irrelevant to the point.
[quote]Key note significant fration of the speed of light at time of fire. The
speed of something when fire is not the speed of an object when it's hit
an object.
[/quote]
This is gibberish. I can't translate that.
[quote]And object fire starts to slow down the moment it's fired.[/quote]
And this is false. Space is empty. And atmosphere(Earth atmosphere) take like 20% speed of kinetic projectile, thus lowering kinetic energy of the impact by that amount.
[/quote]

I'm talk about a object in ftl. It would get dramaictly slower but it will slow down. Something moving at flt or near ftl will slow down because of it mass and near by particals. It would slow to a crawl but it won't be in ftl for very long.

[/quote]
What?! FTL speed is a FASTER THAN LIGHT SPEED. How something THAT IS FASTER THAN LIGHT can be at a FRACTION OF LIGHT'S SPEED?:O:O:O

What that nonsense is about at all? What it has to do with KINETIC WEAPONS from Mass Effect? Like a Earth Alliance dreadnought's projectile which is 4000 km/s, which is 1.3%(a fraction) of the LIGHT'S SPEED?
[/quote]My point is that the projectile would not be as fast as you claining it to be. The codex stated the thanix cannon fired near fraction of the sppen of light. My point is that object can slow down in space but not dramiticly. Even if it is a faction of the speed of light. You also have to count distance as well. 

And stop saying a slug form a drednought is the same as a thanix cannon. If your going by the barreir size of the cannon for impact than that would mean a thanix cannon would not be possibly to pierce reaper kinatic sheilds.

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Why are you so uneducated?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat

Heat is a function of fluctuating atoms. The faster atoms fluctuate, the higher temperature of the matter is. The slower atoms fluctuate, the lower temperature of matter is. To the point of complete stop at Absolute Zero, -273.15 Celsius.
http://en.wikipedia....i/Absolute_zero


http://en.wikipedia....State_of_matter

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States of matter are the distinct forms that different phases of matter take on. Three states of matter are known in everyday experience: solid, liquid, and gas. Other states are possible; in scientific work, the plasma state is important. Further states are possible but do not normally occur in our environment: Bose-Einstein condensates, neutron stars. Other states, such as quark-gluon plasmas, are believed to be possible. Much of the baryonic matter of the universe is in the form of hot plasma, both as rarefied interstellar medium and as dense stars.[/quote]
Do you know what atmosphere is? It is gases, third state "Gas" from states of matter. Particles.
Phase transition is a process of changing state of matter
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A state of matter is also characterised by phase transitions.
A phase transition indicates a change in structure and can be
recognized by an abrupt change in properties. A distinct state of matter
can be defined as any set of states distinguished from any other set of states by a phase transition. Water can be said to have several distinct solid states.[1] The appearance of superconductivity is associated with a phase transition, so there are superconductive states. Likewise, ferromagnetic
states are demarcated by phase transitions and have distinctive
properties. When the change of state occurs in stages the intermediate
steps are called mesophases. Such phases have been exploited by the introduction of liquid crystal technology.[/quote]
Density of atmosphere is different on different heights. Because of gravitation. Solar radiation(electromagnetic waves) hits parcticles, they get more energy and thus fluctuating faster, and get break away from Earth gravity well in higher layers of Earth Atmosphere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon
http://en.wikipedia....netic_radiation
Solar radiation is also contains a lot of particles, and electromagnetic waves. Photon wave's length define can we see it with our eyes or don't.

Well, that's beside the point.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction
Friction is the force resisting the relative motion of solid surfaces, fluid layers, and material elements sliding against each other. There are several types of friction

http://en.wikipedia....Fluid_mechanics
Fluid mechanics is the branch of physics that studies fluids (liquids, gases, and plasmas) and the forces on them. Fluid mechanics can be divided into fluid statics, the study of fluids at rest; fluid kinematics, the study of fluids in motion; and fluid dynamics, the study of the effect of forces on fluid motion. It is a branch of continuum mechanics, a subject which models matter without using the information that it is made out of atoms, that is, it models matter from a macroscopic viewpoint rather than from a microscopic viewpoint. Fluid mechanics, especially fluid dynamics, is an active field of research with many unsolved or partly solved problems. Fluid mechanics can be mathematically complex. Sometimes it can best be solved by numerical methods, typically using computers. A modern discipline, called computational fluid dynamics (CFD), is devoted to this approach to solving fluid mechanics problems. Also taking advantage of the highly visual nature of fluid flow is particle image velocimetry, an experimental method for visualizing and analyzing fluid flow.


http://en.wikipedia..../Fluid_dynamics
In physics, fluid dynamics is a sub-discipline of fluid mechanics that deals with fluid flow—the natural science of fluids (liquids and gases) in motion. It has several subdisciplines itself, including aerodynamics (the study of air and other gases in motion) and hydrodynamics (the study of liquids in motion). Fluid dynamics has a wide range of applications, including calculating forces and moments on aircraft, determining the mass flow rate of petroleum through pipelines, predicting weather patterns, understanding nebulae in interstellar space and reportedly modeling fission weapon detonation. Some of its principles are even used in traffic engineering, where traffic is treated as a continuous fluid.

http://en.wikipedia..../Drag_(physics)
In fluid dynamics, drag (sometimes called air resistance or fluid resistance) refers to forces which act on a solid object in the direction of the relative fluid flow velocity.[/url]  Unlike other resistive forces, such as dry friction, which is nearly independent of velocity, drag forces depend on velocity.[5]
Drag forces always decrease fluid velocity relative to the solid object in the fluid's [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathline]path.
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Space is [mostly] empty there is no application for a fluid dynamics, unless you close to the SPEED OF LIGHT.
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There is no gas friction if there is no gas. And thus, speed of kinetic projectiles will not change in space.

P.S. Physics ftw.

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It has travel time. In particular, focus on the cut right before it impacts. That's very slow compared rounds we see fired in the ME1 cutscene with Sovereign, and about equal with the thanix shots we see fired during the ME3 final battle.

The thanix was only used by the Normandy a few times against occuli during the battle for earth, no other thanix cannons were used in the entire game.(That we can see).

All ship have it in mass effect 3. Each cannon is not equal power.

No, most ships, particulary in the turian military and alliance have them, but they are never used except by the normandy.
None seem to be mounted on fighters either.

It's never used at a distace. It's used in cloes range because that's the only range they are effective.
http://masseffect.wi...er_Capabilities

The kinetic barriers on a Reaper capital ship can shrug off the firepower of a small fleet. Weapons specifically designed to overcome shields, such as the Javelin, GARDIAN lasers, or the Thanix series, can bypass the barriers to some degree. The difficulty is getting close enough to use them

The normady 's thanix cannons fire look differnt because it use two berrels.