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Did anyone else expect a conventional victory through "cooperation"?


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Bill Casey

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No...
It's the perfect analogy...

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FeralEwok

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Bill Casey wrote...

You're thinking of ewoks...

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/proud tear

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loungeshep

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NOpe. Expected something from the complete left field of science fiction, I was not disappointed.

Y'lknow, after EC came out....

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FeralEwok wrote...

/proud tear

The rebels couldn't have seized that shield generator without your support, guerilla warfare bears...

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MyChemicalBromance

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Bill Casey wrote...

No...
It's the perfect analogy...

Oh, ok. So if that's the case, do you promise to never argue that Synthesis is eugenics/rape/evil ever again?

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Oh no, what the care bears do is evil as ****...
Usually the hero goes insane and jumps off the slippery slope before resorting to mind altering...
The Care Bears just call that Tuesday...

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To the Op;

yes I expected a conventional ending, because ME was a scifi war story.
With a conventional ending I don't necesarrilly mean an ending where we all work together, but one where your choices ( albeit slightly) affected the outcome of the war and not some confetti explosion which rendered all choices pointless..... I hope they put the writer of his story arc back to school so he can develop his skills a bit more because this was 3rd grade level

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I was expecting that we would be able to, but barely. I was also expecting a story along something like the Reapers wanting us to be immortal and to become what they are; something along the lines of the species actually being inferior and ascending into something greater: a Reaper. A simple story that can have a lot built around it.

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I actually did think we would be beating them conventionally. Up until 3, we've always been able to pull off the impossible.

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OP,

Yes, that was totally reasonable assumption one could make.

Thanks to Comander Shepard, a galaxy of various different species is fighting together against the Reapers. That, as we learn, was not very common sight in previous cycles. 

A LOT of things throughout all three games point out to "if we work together, we can do anything!" and "against all odds" theme the OP is reffering to. It is hardly the most effective and original way to conclude the trilogy, but can someone honestly say it is worse than what we have now? 

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What else should I have expected ?
Bring the galaxy together, kick the reaper's asses and then focus on the characters. It's a videogame, I expected the same fun I had with ME1 and ME2... oh wait that would have been too videogamey.

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No.

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Bill Casey wrote...

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Proof of that synthesis is mass inoctriantion.:lol:

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Domecoming wrote...

OP,

Yes, that was totally reasonable assumption one could make.

Thanks to Comander Shepard, a galaxy of various different species is fighting together against the Reapers. That, as we learn, was not very common sight in previous cycles. 

A LOT of things throughout all three games point out to "if we work together, we can do anything!" and "against all odds" theme the OP is reffering to. It is hardly the most effective and original way to conclude the trilogy, but can someone honestly say it is worse than what we have now? 

When you first saw Sovergin take on a fleet on his own and then you found out a fleet, the dwarfs all the fleets in they galexy combined and has the same abilities as sovergin , was coming...You said to yourself you can conventioanlly take that?:huh:

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Dr.Freeman wrote...

What else should I have expected ?
Bring the galaxy together, kick the reaper's asses and then focus on the characters. It's a videogame, I expected the same fun I had with ME1 and ME2... oh wait that would have been too videogamey.

The too video gamey comment was about a last boss.

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I was expecting that the massive army I had assembled would be able to kill the Reapers, BUT we'd have to sacrifice big chunks of the galaxy while we formed the fleet and attack plans.

I'm talking leaving whole species to the Reapers. Like the Virmire choice, except x1000

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Bill Casey...You my hero.

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sammysoso wrote...

I was expecting that the massive army I had assembled would be able to kill the Reapers, BUT we'd have to sacrifice big chunks of the galaxy while we formed the fleet and attack plans.

I'm talking leaving whole species to the Reapers. Like the Virmire choice, except x1000

But that's the destory choice.

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MegaSovereign

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Why can't we discuss this in the million other Conventional victory threads..??

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No, because after the first mission Admiral Hackett says it isn't possible.

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To OP: no not really. I figured that cooperation was the bare minimum to even have a chance of surviving. That's why battling Cerberus simultaneously was such a big blow (and why indoctrination is such a powerful weapon for the Reapers.) Even if you do MP to get galactic readiness to 100%, the galaxy map still only estimates your chances of survival at even. And that's even with the Crucible.

Failure to unite the galaxy would be a near-automatic failure condition. Everyone fighting together still might not be enough. I think the theme was, from ME1 to ME3, you gotta try.

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Bill Casey wrote...

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Care Bear Stare! 

Now evewybody wuv one anovwer. 

Brilliant.

And I never quite understand why everybody dismisses 'Conventional Victory' as silly (despite being told by Hackett that we are holding our own and even beating the Reapers back if our galactic readiness is high enough), when the only alternative is 'God Button we built through magics'.  I understand that some players wanted a twist ending, but even without the ugly moral connotations that concept is just so preposterous.

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drayfish wrote...



And I never quite understand why everybody dismisses 'Conventional Victory' as silly (despite being told by Hackett that we are holding our own and even beating the Reapers back if our galactic readiness is high enough), when the only alternative is 'God Button we built through magics'.  I understand that some players wanted a twist ending, but even without the ugly moral connotations that concept is just so preposterous.

It's not because of what Hackett said. It's because in the end of ME1 we saw a reaper take on a fleet and were told a massive fleet of that which dwarfs the number of the galexys fleets combined is coming. 

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No. The Protheans had a entire galaxy working together through cooperation from the beginning and failed. How much sense does it make for you to throw together a patchwork alliance after already being invaded and win? None. Zip. Ziltch.

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dreman9999 wrote...

drayfish wrote...

And I never quite understand why everybody dismisses 'Conventional Victory' as silly (despite being told by Hackett that we are holding our own and even beating the Reapers back if our galactic readiness is high enough), when the only alternative is 'God Button we built through magics'.  I understand that some players wanted a twist ending, but even without the ugly moral connotations that concept is just so preposterous.

It's not because of what Hackett said. It's because in the end of ME1 we saw a reaper take on a fleet and were told a massive fleet of that which dwarfs the number of the galexys fleets combined is coming. 

I'm not saying it's a good plan...  Just a hell of a lot more consistent (and more satisfying) than 'I Win Button' from space.

Modifié par drayfish, 03 octobre 2012 - 09:06 .