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[Gibb_Shepard]

Joy Divison wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

You're already effectively directly raising your Health and Mana/Stamina with Constitution and Willpower.  There's no great divide with Skyrim there.

The problem is that in DA2 they're connected to the hamster wheel attack stats, that you have to dump points into just to stand still.

Raising attributes is a silly concept.  Adventurers don't get smarter, more dexterous, or healthier as they progress, they become more skilled at doing things.  We might think it is neat because our character is improving but this is a misleading illusion in many game systems.  In DA2 and DnD 4E you must raise your main attributes to maintain your level of combat effectiveness.

Which is crap. Dumping attributes into a stat just to stay even with the competition is such a tedious and pointless task. Attributes can and have been done in much, much better ways.

Man DA2s attribute system sucked. I never realized just how bad it was until now.

[AlexJK]

I'd love to see attributes dropped and replaced with an "aptitude" or similar system. For example, on character creation you choose between the following:

- combative, you gain +5% damage/attack/crit chance
- charismatic, you gain +5 to all persuade checks in dialogue
- intelligent, you gain specialisation points every 5 levels instead of every 7
- wise, you gain XP 5% faster

etc, or similar

You can only choose one and you can't change it. The idea is that the aptitude choice is specific to a playstyle preference, not a class.

Modifié par AlexJK, 05 octobre 2012 - 02:52 .

[legbamel]

I disagree: fighters do become smarter at tactics and more dextrous with their weapons the more they use them. They get stronger, able to take more punishment ("get healthier") as well. If those stats have an actual effect on battles then having the option to use them alongside strength gives players more options for building and roleplaying their characters.

The problem isn't the concept of attributes, it's the removal of any meaning behind them.