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[Shia Luck]

Still?

So intense...

*laughing*

Have fun

[Gamemako]

alhamel94 wrote...

Phantorch2745 wrote...

All those people talking about suits being punctured...hello, Quarians. They share the same risks and yet they go into battle.

no quarians risk infection because they have poor immune systems, volus risk explosion because of pressurized suits

Right. Quarians risk death hours or days later from infection. They survive for the duration of the battle at the very least. A suit puncture for a Volus is instant disaster. They have to be protected much, much more thoroughly than anyone else.

[Sharkey00]

shh... its not really gonna be voles...

[Rain CS]

When Sheppard (ME1) run and fight on external surface of Citadel (in a vacuum), he(she) was in a pressurized battle-suit. Does it mean instant death when suit being punctured?

[aarnold1]

Bring on the Volus... I'm in. Give me a Gutterball class.

[Lord Rosario]

Rain CS wrote...

When Sheppard (ME1) run and fight on external surface of Citadel (in a vacuum), he(she) was in a pressurized battle-suit. Does it mean instant death when suit being punctured?

You sir, have just won 50 science points.

Modifié par Lord Rosario, 05 octobre 2012 - 06:03 .

[Gamemako]

Sharkey00 wrote...

shh... its not really gonna be voles...

Could be other species in Volus-built suits. It seems highly unlikely that the "Volus" thing was there just to **** with people, though.

[Gamemako]

Lord Rosario wrote...

Rain CS wrote...

When Sheppard (ME1) run and fight on external surface of Citadel (in a vacuum), he(she) was in a pressurized battle-suit. Does it mean instant death when suit being punctured?

You sir, have just won 50 science points.

Space is a near-vacuum, not a real vacuum. (Not really relevant, just FYI).

The suit was presumably at 1atm. The pressure difference is 1 atm -- about 15 psig. Volus suits are at 60atm. Compared to an Earthen atmosphere, the difference is about 875psig. This is 59 times the pressure difference.

You just lost 59 science points and will have to repeat 6th grade until you get it right.

//EDIT: Self-sealing tires will operate at ~35psig.

Modifié par Gamemako, 05 octobre 2012 - 06:19 .

[AwesomeBabyLion]

Pretty funny to read through this thread. Lots of awesome opinions and arguments, but try not to get heated over the matter. This thread has already gotten one warning =3

For my part, if they can explain it well, I don't mind the Volus being there.

[plain numbers]

This is not a comedy game!? WTH I'm out.

[meesterevans]

How funny would it be if they were trolling the lore people by just labeling the new classes as Volus, but the new kits turned out to be Protheans. Would be so hilariously awesome to watch everyone's reaction.

[Sharkey00]

meesterevans wrote...

How funny would it be if they were trolling the lore people by just labeling the new classes as Volus, but the new kits turned out to be Protheans. Would be so hilariously awesome to watch everyone's reaction.

My guess exactly!

[Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout]

bajsmongo66 wrote...

they would explode if their suit was punctured...seems like a bad idea to put them on the frontlines lol...but hey..space magic..

Self sealing suits and barriers. Where is the problem?

[TommyNg]

I fully agree with u OP ,no volus , we never seen a volus in combat either in Mass Effect 1 ,2,3 ,so why suddenly appear on the battlefield, it doesnt make sense.

I believe mass effect maker know what should be add and shouldnt add, so I really dont worry they will mess up my game.

[Zeromarro4]

I've been airing for anything but the same old aliens... And I happen to like the volus. I'm sure that we can rationalize to ourselves well enough to admit the volus. They do have bombers and whatnot so is it really a stretch to imagine them to have SOME form of infantry? Another point, exactly how many ardat yachi are there, about 4, what are banshees, ardat yachi gone reaper, how many banshees does one kill in an average MP game? Lore and multiplayer don't have to match perfectly.

[adamjmorgan]

Uberschveinen wrote...
Except that Volus Starship Designer and Volus Offensive Economist aren't the classes being proposed.

This made me lol for a good 20 seconds.  Thanks! 

[Gamemako]

Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...

Self sealing suits and barriers. Where is the problem?

There is no self-sealing suit that can handle normal operating pressures of 875psig.

[darkpassenger2342]

I don't really know how I feel about it, so many people claim the volus can't fight, but
everything has the instinctual option of fight or flight and the universe is on the line....

they can't muster up a few troops?
besides, how did volus fight each other before they were discovered as an intergalactic species?
just curl up in the fetal position and cry at each other?
theres gotta be some soldiers out there....

the suit lore doesnt bother me, we have flying vanguards, even a magic flying krogan in a magic battlesuit

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 05 octobre 2012 - 06:42 .

[Lord Rosario]

Gamemako wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Rain CS wrote...

When Sheppard (ME1) run and fight on external surface of Citadel (in a vacuum), he(she) was in a pressurized battle-suit. Does it mean instant death when suit being punctured?

You sir, have just won 50 science points.

Space is a near-vacuum, not a real vacuum. (Not really relevant, just FYI).

The suit was presumably at 1atm. The pressure difference is 1 atm -- about 15 psig. Volus suits are at 60atm. Compared to an Earthen atmosphere, the difference is about 875psig. This is 59 times the pressure difference.

You just lost 59 science points and will have to repeat 6th grade until you get it right.

//EDIT: Self-sealing tires will operate at ~35psig.

Gotta love the invention of shields and omni-tech. That will seal a puncture in less than a split second. That would leave the self repairing part to kick in. Also, you should know that puncuting something that can withstand the outward push of 60 atmospheres is also giving quite a lot  of preasure against whatever is shooting against it... Seems to me that a Volus suit wouldn't be able to be punctured by much which would make them small targets that are difficult to break, even without the grotesque ammount of shielding one could put up.

Also have to point out that that is not the point. If A suit in space can handle getting shot at, then that is proof of concept that a Volus can handle something similar in a normal environment.

[Lord Rosario]

Gamemako wrote...

Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...

Self sealing suits and barriers. Where is the problem?

There is no self-sealing suit that can handle normal operating pressures of 875psig.

Use the force itself to seal it.. just a metal plate put on the inside would hold. Pretty certain that with their future tecknology they can figure it out, especially if they have a gel that can repair any injury.

[DoubleHell]

Volus Engineer will have a "Nerf Gas Grenade". Hostiles caught in the blast radius suffer -40% weapon damage for 10 seconds.

Volus heavy melee will be the "Bowling Ball" attack - Volus character curls up into a ball and bowls over hostiles.

[HLake]

I have no problems with the Volus.
Also, you humans are all racist.
Really.
You just think about the "average" Volus, or the ones we have seen: merchants and diplomats.
Looking at Barla Von and thinking "he can't fight" is like looking at Udina in his suit and thinking the same. Of course he can't fight: he's in a ****ing classy suit!
Probably the Volus would have produced armor that protects them from exploding in a fire fight.
Can't there be any bad-ass Volus in the Galaxy, with equipment that gives them a fighting chance?
We play as the best of the best, our characters get the best equipment, the best armor, the best weapons. We are N7. Why this can't be true for the best Volus soldiers?

[adamjmorgan]

Gamemako wrote...

Samerandomscreennameidontcareabout wrote...

Self sealing suits and barriers. Where is the problem?

There is no self-sealing suit that can handle normal operating pressures of 875psig.

The sad thing is that this has been said in this very thread at least four times.

All this ridiculous Volus business doesn't pass the simplest of mental checks (Occam's Razor).  The explanation requiring the least amount of "leaps of faith" we'll call it is usually the correct one.  The one that doesn't require lore changes and retcons and explations etc.  That's why I think this is all a bad joke.  BW has put so much effort into making the universe a believeable environment that even the biggest science nerd can still suspend their disbelief to enjoy the great narrative, because it's very well-woven, and believeable.  It makes no sense that they would demolish all that effort.  And yes, adding Volus would demolish that, for a lot of people.  As has been said, when you make a story like the ME series, people are going to be defensive and protective of it, and resist changes, etc.  People love their lore, that's what makes ME *feel* like ME.  If you personally want to throw that out, that's totally your perogative and I have no problem with that.  

It's been brought up a few times already regarding the in game explanation, but in a desperate situation resources are divvied up based on the most economical use.  You do not send the banker to the frontlines just as much as you do not send the soldier to handle the war chest.  This is a simple concept.  Just because the galaxy is at war does not mean that literally every single living thing exists to hold a gun.  Just look at our own history.  The Volus would put the resources they'd have to spend developing this "mech suit" into enhancing the abilities of an already capable fighting platform.  To do otherwise would be to weaken the war effort.

[SMBTheExile]

Can we use the Volus as mobile cover?