Most of MP's classes =/= elite ground troopsThe JoeMan wrote...
Bill Casey wrote...
I could see a Volus adept, engineer or sentinel...
Basically anything that doesn't involve direct physical combat or relies or BFGs, and focuses on support roles...
The Volclan do provide auxiliary troops to the Turian Hierarchy...
It's in the lore...
Auxiliary troops =/= elite ground troops
This is dumb.
Lord Rosario wrote...
Ok, so since it has already been stated several times, often more than once on each page of this thread that Volus do in fact have forces, perhaps not N7 forces, but indeed forces that have faught the reapers, the point that they don't have a military goes out the window. I have already pointd out how a Volus could easily survive suit punctures in a similar fassion to humans, turians, and especially quarians with a simple shield membrane. This in consideration, they would not explode.. They would take the hit as any other species would and I can only imagine how resiliant a creature is that can withstand 60 atmospheres is to a projectile that doesn't even output that much pressure.
But seriously, calm down with the personal attacks.. they are not wanted and we are only having a discussion here about the lore of a game universe. No need to call me a moron or anyone else for bringing up comlex future physics.
Everyone wanted the Vorcha as a joke and it's one of the most viable characters in MP.BetrayerOfNihil wrote...
Lord Rosario wrote...
Ok, so since it has already been stated several times, often more than once on each page of this thread that Volus do in fact have forces, perhaps not N7 forces, but indeed forces that have faught the reapers, the point that they don't have a military goes out the window. I have already pointd out how a Volus could easily survive suit punctures in a similar fassion to humans, turians, and especially quarians with a simple shield membrane. This in consideration, they would not explode.. They would take the hit as any other species would and I can only imagine how resiliant a creature is that can withstand 60 atmospheres is to a projectile that doesn't even output that much pressure.
But seriously, calm down with the personal attacks.. they are not wanted and we are only having a discussion here about the lore of a game universe. No need to call me a moron or anyone else for bringing up comlex future physics.
Sure they can survive heavy atmospheric pressure, but that doesn't make them any more resiliant that Krogan, who can be hurt by bullets and crushed by an Atlas or Brute like any other. There are Crabs and things at the bottom of the sea, but their survival down there doesn't mean you can't crack their shells with hammers.
Personal attacks come up when I have to argue against bull**** made up by raving idiots who want "Bowling Ball" and "Biotic God" in this game.
Epique Phael767 wrote...
Most of MP's classes =/= elite ground troopsThe JoeMan wrote...
Bill Casey wrote...
I could see a Volus adept, engineer or sentinel...
Basically anything that doesn't involve direct physical combat or relies or BFGs, and focuses on support roles...
The Volclan do provide auxiliary troops to the Turian Hierarchy...
It's in the lore...
Auxiliary troops =/= elite ground troops
This is dumb.
You're dumb.
They are, but the turians, krogan, quarians, and salarians that we have are all just regular operatives. The geth are iffy, as are the batarians, but the vorcha aren't elite by any means. "most of" isn't the correct term, but "a significant amout of" is.Rifneno wrote...
Epique Phael767 wrote...
Most of MP's classes =/= elite ground troopsThe JoeMan wrote...
Bill Casey wrote...
I could see a Volus adept, engineer or sentinel...
Basically anything that doesn't involve direct physical combat or relies or BFGs, and focuses on support roles...
The Volclan do provide auxiliary troops to the Turian Hierarchy...
It's in the lore...
Auxiliary troops =/= elite ground troops
This is dumb.
You're dumb.
Right. STG members, krogan battlemasters, asari justicars, N7 operatives, these aren't elite by any means.
You may want to invest in a dictionary.
Ypiret wrote...
Does every video-game fan base have this many stupid and unreasonable people?
Modifié par Cdr. Pwn, 06 octobre 2012 - 12:02 .
BetrayerOfNihil wrote...
And shut the **** up about my typo. I'm typing as fast as I can so my post doesn't get burried by more ****brained posts from you jackasses. I also have to watch multiple threads thanks to this bull****.
BetrayerOfNihil wrote...
SparkeeLecaro wrote...
I'm pretty sure that any race shouldn't be able to survive being headshot by a Nemesis, stabbed by a Phantom, burned severely by a Geth Pryo (Pyro?) or impaled by a Banshee. It's not exactly something you should be able to walk away from.
As far as I know you do go down when shot by a Nemesis after Shields drop. I've only been shot by them when I have shields. Everyone dies when stabbed by a Phantom, same for the Banshee impale. Pyro might not be as immediately damaging as those others, but I imagine fire on a Volus suit would really **** it up. FACT IS, a Volus taking that kind of damage would die in an instant, and wouldn't even be a solid object anymore.
And shut the **** up about my typo. I'm typing as fast as I can so my post doesn't get burried by more ****brained posts from you jackasses. I also have to watch multiple threads thanks to this bull****.Lord Rosario wrote...
I'm sorry, but that's the lore of how shields work in mass effect. That is how a space ninja can stab a sword through a shield that bullets bounce off of. Sword passes through because the shield was designed for things hitting it at higher velocity. You're now arguing that Volus break fiction because fiction doesn't make sence to you... Not the best arguement I must say.
Also, going down that road, how does ANYONE get stabbed by a phantom, shot by a nemesis, burned severely by a geth pyro or impaled by a Banshee and still get back up? That makes perfect sence! ...Right?
You're a ****ing moron, you know that? I am not saying the Volus themselves don't make sense, I'm saying that the Volus fighting alongside the N7 Operatives is nonsense because of their obvious frailties, small stature, and lack of their own ground force! And if you're gonna say "Well maybe we just never heard of the Volus Army, and it got excluded from the Codex and War Assets for some reason," then I'd say "You know why that is? Because any Volus Army isn't worth mention, especially next to the other races that can actually wage war on a vast majority of the habitable worlds! Turians, Humans, Krogan, Salarian, and even Quarians don't ****ing blow up when they become exposed to pressure that isn't sixty times Earth's, and aren't dependent on giant-ass mechs to fight!"
And using Medi-Gel or getting revived and getting up after the end of a Wave if you died is a game mechanic, you dumb ****ing ****. But even with game mechanics, how in the Hell do you expect to revive a Volus that's been turned to red paste on every surface of the room? Permanent death is a possible addition, but it wouldn't be welcomed except by a very masochistic few, considering how easy it is to go down in this game. Imagine playing if it went "CRITICAL MISSION FAILURE" on your screen the moment you go down like in Campaign, and you had to spectate for the rest of the match. If that were so, everyone, possibly including me, would farm with optimum-only characters builds and weapons, or just quit playing completely because of how ****ing unforgivable it is. Campaign has many 'corridor' maps and enemies usually coming from only one direction, so Insanity is playable if you're careful and smart with your advance, but in Multiplayer enemies can come from anywhere and swarm you. Every tiny little mistake with the placement of your team would mean enemies could come in from places you weren't at all expecting and ****ing perma-kill you.
Modifié par Kyerea, 06 octobre 2012 - 12:03 .
Rifneno wrote...
Epique Phael767 wrote...
Most of MP's classes =/= elite ground troopsThe JoeMan wrote...
Bill Casey wrote...
I could see a Volus adept, engineer or sentinel...
Basically anything that doesn't involve direct physical combat or relies or BFGs, and focuses on support roles...
The Volclan do provide auxiliary troops to the Turian Hierarchy...
It's in the lore...
Auxiliary troops =/= elite ground troops
This is dumb.
You're dumb.
Right. STG members, krogan battlemasters, asari justicars, N7 operatives, these aren't elite by any means.
You may want to invest in a dictionary.
Modifié par Kyerea, 06 octobre 2012 - 12:11 .
BetrayerOfNihil wrote...
Lord Rosario wrote...
Ok, so since it has already been stated several times, often more than once on each page of this thread that Volus do in fact have forces, perhaps not N7 forces, but indeed forces that have faught the reapers, the point that they don't have a military goes out the window. I have already pointd out how a Volus could easily survive suit punctures in a similar fassion to humans, turians, and especially quarians with a simple shield membrane. This in consideration, they would not explode.. They would take the hit as any other species would and I can only imagine how resiliant a creature is that can withstand 60 atmospheres is to a projectile that doesn't even output that much pressure.
But seriously, calm down with the personal attacks.. they are not wanted and we are only having a discussion here about the lore of a game universe. No need to call me a moron or anyone else for bringing up comlex future physics.
Sure they can survive heavy atmospheric pressure, but that doesn't make them any more resiliant that Krogan, who can be hurt by bullets and crushed by an Atlas or Brute like any other. There are Crabs and things at the bottom of the sea, but their survival down there doesn't mean you can't crack their shells with hammers.
Personal attacks come up when I have to argue against bull**** made up by raving idiots who want "Bowling Ball" and "Biotic God" in this game.
Cdr. Pwn wrote...
Ypiret wrote...
Does every video-game fan base have this many stupid and unreasonable people?
I don't think so. I've never seen a community of hardcore nerds constantly complain as much as this one. The Star Wars Galaxies forum wasn't as bad. The fanboys in this game are really pathetic to care so much about lore in multi-player that is loosely based on single player.
Modifié par Ypiret, 06 octobre 2012 - 12:20 .
Modifié par Happy Shepard, 06 octobre 2012 - 12:25 .
I hope they get a version of biotic charge that keeps going and he hits enemy after enemy like a pinball game.Happy Shepard wrote...
Dat butthurt. Not the butthurt of people that defend lore. But the butthurt of those who are soo excited about Volus characters and will be utterly disappointed when it was just a dev troll to avoid leaks. Honestly, i actually feel sorry for you guys.
(If i'm wrong, well, then just be happy about it and stop trying to convince people with "ur so nerdy"and "if they use space magic it's possible!".)
Epique Phael767 wrote...
I hope they get a version of biotic charge that keeps going and he hits enemy after enemy like a pinball game.Happy Shepard wrote...
Dat butthurt. Not the butthurt of people that defend lore. But the butthurt of those who are soo excited about Volus characters and will be utterly disappointed when it was just a dev troll to avoid leaks. Honestly, i actually feel sorry for you guys.
(If i'm wrong, well, then just be happy and stop trying to convince people with "ur so nerdy"and "if they use space magic it's possible!".)
Rifneno wrote...
Epique Phael767 wrote...
Most of MP's classes =/= elite ground troopsThe JoeMan wrote...
Bill Casey wrote...
I could see a Volus adept, engineer or sentinel...
Basically anything that doesn't involve direct physical combat or relies or BFGs, and focuses on support roles...
The Volclan do provide auxiliary troops to the Turian Hierarchy...
It's in the lore...
Auxiliary troops =/= elite ground troops
This is dumb.
You're dumb.
Right. STG members, krogan battlemasters, asari justicars, N7 operatives, these aren't elite by any means.
You may want to invest in a dictionary.
Modifié par Beelzebubs, 06 octobre 2012 - 12:32 .
Medane wrote...
Honest to goodness, I will never play MP again if Volus in some strange toss of the galactic dice end up in multiplayer. It's just stupid from that point onwards.
Modifié par Ziegrif, 06 octobre 2012 - 01:06 .
Vortex13 wrote...
@ Rifeno sorry I am using my phone to post and it doesn't like quoting.
Anyway in regards to the Typhoon I would agree the shell casings don't make sense, but other then that the MP has been fairly consistent with the SP side or at least been presented in an easily explained war asset description (Vorcha Engineering team asset).
The fact that Shepard has to complete the (at the time) new multiplayer objectives, while also being able to wield the Kyrase sniper rifle in the Leviathian / Firefight DLC proves that the two teams are familiar with each others' work and try to stay in the boundries of said work.
I am confident that the mp team has a lore friendly (or at least, lore plausable) explanation as to how any why the Volus were added. That is why I am going to wait and see what happens, because if the class fits its all good, and if it is nothing but a "for funzies" class then you will have a lot more then just this thread upset about it.
Ziegrif wrote...
A 34 page thread with mostly bickering in it.
What are people trying to accomplish?
It's either a hoax or BW has made their decision and is releasing them.
That's it.
No reason to attack or insult people.
We will see when the time comes. Before the DLC release and eventual unlocking of the kits by time. All of this is meaningless. Unless BW confirms it we can't be certain of anything.
It's like the EX-cerberus VS Prothean threads all over again.
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