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[Sir JK]

All sound suggestions.... but how do you stop a mage without killing them? How do you neutralize the threat they pose without spilling their lives?

[DadeLeviathan]

Cookies. Very delicious cookies.

[goofyomnivore]

Sir JK wrote...

All sound suggestions.... but how do you stop a mage without killing them? How do you neutralize the threat they pose without spilling their lives?

Cut out their tongues like Qunari? Their hands like they were going to do to Sketch?

How to do it without any permanent harm to them? IDK another mage? Blood magic mind control?

[Sable Rhapsody]

Sir JK wrote...

All sound suggestions.... but how do you stop a mage without killing them? How do you neutralize the threat they pose without spilling their lives?

For an individual mage, Mana Clash from the mage tree and Smite from the templar tree hurt like a wrecking ball without actually killing the mage in question.  Poisons still work--not all of them are lethal, and paralytic toxins just have to enter the bloodstream.  No need to shank the mage.  There's always the Rite of Tranquility once you've got them incapacitated, though the Rites might be a fate far worse than death.

For armies of mages like in Asunder, it gets harder.  There's really no way to neutralize that many combatants without at least killing some, mage or otherwise.  Depriving them of lyrium might weaken them, though they also might turn to blood magic as a result.  If it's a seige, starving them out might also work.  

Lethal or otherwise, there's no "nice" way to stop a mage.  Short of convincing them to lay down their arms peacefully.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 05 octobre 2012 - 07:08 .

[aesir05]

arrow of slaying + lethality + high cunning = headshot

[Lotion Soronarr]

KainD wrote...
Yes templars can burn mage mana, and make then vulnurable. But what about blood mages?

Every mage has mana. Even a blood mage.
So a templars smite would work on them (but I guess it wouldn't be as effective)

[Dave of Canada]

Sir JK wrote...

All sound suggestions.... but how do you stop a mage without killing them? How do you neutralize the threat they pose without spilling their lives?

Make them all tranquil, rebuild the world they've ruined.

[Urzon]

For medium/large forces in open combat, all you can do is zerg it and hope for the best.

For a single mage, I would recommend sneak attacks, ranged combat, grenades, and traps of all kinds, and if you want him/her alive...

LYRI-ON! APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!
LYRI-ON! APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!
LYRI-ON! APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!

[Drunken Warrior]

By lore? You be a dwarf with a big stick. Funny though the small amount of magic resistence seems to make people constantly comment on how dwarfs should not be afraid of magic..lol

[Abraham_uk]

Urzon wrote...

For medium/large forces in open combat, all you can do is zerg it and hope for the best.

For a single mage, I would recommend sneak attacks, ranged combat, grenades, and traps of all kinds, and if you want him/her alive...

LYRI-ON! APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!
LYRI-ON! APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!
LYRI-ON! APPLY DIRECTLY TO THE FOREHEAD!

I would love that.

Half mage half rogue character.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I've had enough of Abominations and demons. If I find another blood mage I call for templars: 911!

[SirPetrakus]

Cut off his tongue. Let's see you chant an incantation now, mister Pointyhats!

[Legacy_of_Wrex]

Gang up on him.
Fireball/backstab/knockdown moves.
Pray you finish him off before his melee guards gets too annoying. In DA, hope your tank was the one to receive the CoM present.

[Big I]

Sedatives? Another mage? One of those qunari collar things Aarvarad used on Ketojan?

[daffl5]

templars have the power to take power away from a mage for a very short time

[shedevil3001]

give them a kitten

[Medhia Nox]

1) Wait until the demons this mage is drawing to him with his outrageous use of magic - devour him whole.

2) Call 1-800-Tem-Plar

3) Cast your own damn spells at him (this would be my character's response).

4) Even a mage needs to sleep.

5) Ambush/Snipe

6) Poison his food.

7) Join the Qun.

8) Zerg rush. 

Sure - some of these assume you're bowing to the mage's awesome power before you trick them into dying - instead of facing them on the battlefield... but that's how it would have to go.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 05 octobre 2012 - 01:05 .

[sylvanaerie]

If you're lucky and the mage is the easily distracted type, backstabbing would work nicely. Lack of armor coupled with the fact that they bleed just like any other person stuck with sharp pointy things, makes them as vulnerable as the next guy.

Don't let them see you coming though unless you have archer backup.

[dragonflight288]

KainD wrote...

 Just something I thought about. How do you "realisticaly" stop a powerful mage? Gameplay aside, if we are going to go by the lore and cutscene rules. Say a blood mage that can make you cut your own throat, or spring huge fiery storms to burn down whole towns, or turn you inside, crush your bones with a thought. 

Basically a very powerful mage. How are they dealt with? I haven't read a lot of dragon age litirature, only played the games, and in games it all goes by numbers and protagonist can beat anyone. But how do ( if say you are a templar ) realistically even approach someone who can make you a pile of ash in a second? 

Yes templars can burn mage mana, and make then vulnurable. But what about blood mages? 

If you're a templar, usually a sword in the gut, but if you're a love interest, usually a quick snog.

[Giltspur]

Others have mentioned taking them by surprise.  So there's that.

However, they're a bit like soldiers with single-shot firearms with the "cooldown" being akin to the reloading time.  A samurai reply to single-shot firearms is to get indoctrinated on Bushido, attack as a group, not be deterred by your fallen comrades that get taken out by the gunfire and then kill the soldier between shots. Then again, mages have an advantage of guns: their AoE is better.  So they can actually just take out the whole group.  So forget that.

Really, a prepared mage, like Batman, is pretty much unbeatable.  So I suppose you have to cut off their power source.  So no sharp objects. Unforunately, Thedas is a sword-intensive setting.  Also, do areas with a thin veil make mages more powerful?  Probably.  So don't keep them in Kirkwall.  And don't go to war against them as massive death probably thins the veil.  And...well, basically do the exact opposite of what everyone in Dragon Age does.

Modifié par Giltspur, 05 octobre 2012 - 01:52 .

[Medhia Nox]

It's amazing how Thedas really is a fantasy world that would be better off without magic.

If they went with that angle - I would applaud Bioware immensely and purchase every DA game ever made on principle.