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[JedTed]

 They couldn't have always looked like giant lobsters, every species evolves from some lesser form.  There was one bit concept art that i remember seeing on the ME1 CE bonus disc and i think it may actually be a proto-Leviathan.

Sorry for the crappy smartphone quality:
 

When i first saw it i thought, "THAT is the the race that created the Reapers!"  The comentary for that specific piece of art doesn't say much, just that it was a random creature design.

[What a Succulent Ass]

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I sincerely doubt the Leviathans had been dreamt up when ME1 was being developed.

...But I also wonder what sort of evolutionary pressures would cause a vaguely humanoid, naga biped/uniped to develop into monolithic, cuttlefish creature telepaths.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 05 octobre 2012 - 01:17 .

[Leonardo the Magnificent]

Random Jerkface wrote...

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I sincerely doubt the Leviathans had been dreamt up when ME1 was being developed.

...But I also wonder what sort of evolutionary pressures would cause a vaguely humanoid, naga biped/uniped to develop into monolithic, cuttlefish creature telepaths.

Whatever it was, it probably proved IT. Jokes aside, it'd be nearly impossible within the universal timeframe for such a species to naturally develop in such a way. Artificial evolution is also highly improbable.

[Jamie9]

I'm guessing the species that evolved into Leviathans was also aquatic. Perhaps the species continued to grow bigger because of severe tidal movement? All the other aquatic life was pulled along by the current, yet the Leviathans could swim against it? That'd be a big evolutionary win.

My own ramblings, mind you.

[JedTed]

Random Jerkface wrote...

I sincerely doubt the Leviathans had been dreamt up when ME1 was being developed.

It's purely supposition ofcorse, i don't think Bioware thought up the Leviathans back then either.

Random Jerkface wrote...
...But I also wonder what sort of evolutionary pressures would cause a vaguely humanoid, naga biped/uniped to develop into monolithic, cuttlefish creature telepaths.

I have the theory that the creatures that we know as Leviathans are similar to the Reapers in that they are compsed of billions of organic minds fused into one form.  When the first Reaper(Harby) was created, all that was added was the metal shell and the indoctrination ability(which is based on the Leviathans' own form of mind control).

[Bill Casey]

That's a........................... Val....... sham...b-bal.. nar...
A Valshambalnar....

I'd know one anywhere...


Yes... they were... um... kicked off the Citadel... for... uhhhh.... swimming in the lake!
They lost their embassy because of it...

That's... what happened... yeah...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 05 octobre 2012 - 01:44 .

[dreamgazer]

Seamonkeys.

[MacNasty]

Bill Casey wrote...

That's a........................... Val....... sham...b-bal.. nar...
A Valshambalnar....

I'd know one anywhere...


Yes... they were... um... kicked off the Citadel... for... uhhhh.... swimming in the lake!
They lost their embassy because of it...

That's... what happened... yeah...

Must have been the fish those Krogan thought were in the Presidium...

[N7Infernox]

"They simply...are"

[N7Gold]

Random Jerkface wrote...

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I sincerely doubt the Leviathans had been dreamt up when ME1 was being developed.

...But I also wonder what sort of evolutionary pressures would cause a vaguely humanoid, naga biped/uniped to develop into monolithic, cuttlefish creature telepaths.

If you checked out the planet Jartar in the Dis system and read its biography about the Leviathan of Dis in Mass Effect 1, you'd know for sure.

[JedTed]

N7Gold wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...

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I sincerely doubt the Leviathans had been dreamt up when ME1 was being developed.

...But I also wonder what sort of evolutionary pressures would cause a vaguely humanoid, naga biped/uniped to develop into monolithic, cuttlefish creature telepaths.

If you checked out the planet Jartar in the Dis system and read its biography about the Leviathan of Dis in Mass Effect 1, you'd know for sure.

The Leviathan of Dis was actually Reaper that was killed by a Leviathan.

Edit: I'm not sure if Bioware concieved of the Leviathans when writing the description for the planet Dis.  Like the Great Rift of Klendagon, it was likely incorporated into the story later.

Modifié par JedTed, 05 octobre 2012 - 03:05 .

[The Twilight God]

They evolved from a cuttlefish/lobster analogue. Duh.

When you have nature mind control abilities you don't have much need to evolve on a physical level. Who needs hands when you can just take over the mind of a dozen guys and have 24 hands... or 48 if the keepers were the land race that evolved on their world. 

[MB957]

thats a sea turtle mate

[Kabooooom]

The Twilight God wrote...

They evolved from a cuttlefish/lobster analogue. Duh.
 

This. As a biologist, perhaps I am biased with giving Bioware too much credit here...but I always suspected that they drew on inspiration from real life, bizarre species here on Earth. When coming up with the concept of "what would intelligent alien life look like?", they most likely looked to bizarre but highly intelligent species on our own planet and based concepts on them. Elcor always reminded me of a vaguely elephant-esque species, and the Hanar/Leviathans are reminiscent of squid/cuttlefish/octopus - the most intelligent representatives of the invertebrates. The Thorian mind-control always reminded me of an extreme version of something like Ophiocordyceps unilateralis, a parasitic fungus that exerts a sort of "mind control" over its host.

I think it is reasonable to assume that the Leviathans were always aquatic and are invertebrate analogs.

Also, that picture vaguely resembles an early concept of what would later become the Inusannon statues on Ilos. It may have been an early Prothean idea.

Modifié par Kabooooom, 05 octobre 2012 - 03:42 .

[JedTed]

Just because we found the last of the Leviathans on a planet that is mostly ocean doesn't mean that they always lived underwater. They conquered thousand of worlds throughout the galaxy so they must have evolved survive in space as well as other planets.

Honestly, anything is possible. To suggest that they always existed in the same form is rather unimaginative. The way i see it is they had hundreds of thousands of years to evolve before creating the Catalyst and inadvertently starting the cycle.

[devSin]

It'll never be detailed.

Whatever they were, they have nothing to do with that picture.

Modifié par devSin, 05 octobre 2012 - 04:16 .

[kil_edward93]

Space magic with a touch of artistic integrity.

[What a Succulent Ass]

The Thorian mind-control always reminded me of an extreme version of something like Ophiocordyceps unilateralis, a parasitic fungus that exerts a sort of "mind control" over its host.

IIRC, the thorian was actually inspired by the vagina.

...Which I suppose you could say exerts a form of mind control?