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[Outrider42]

Meanwhile, back in the Bioware dungeon...

[LeandroBraz]

anything with overload, problem solved...

[Shia Luck]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Thanks for the patch Bioware, but really... did you REALLY look at ALL the complaints about the Geth and their ridiculous stunlock and think "You know what the Geth really need, MORE STUNLOCK with an EVEN LONGER ANIMATION"?

Because that's what it seems like. I just played ONE game against Geth (first since the patch) and have no interest in playing them again while the Combat Drone retains this absurd ability. The stagger is ridiculous and the animation lasts WAY too long.

I'm sure 99.9% of people feel the same way. Rule #1 of game development is "Don't take control away from the player".

Awww likkle baby...

..I don't think 99% means what you think it means   (cookies for reference *grinning*)

Combat drone finally does something worthy of its name, no? What is the problem?

Have fun

[ASmoothCriminalx]

I play platinum most of the time, so if I don't prepare for the geth in some way, it's pretty careless of me. This doesn't mean you need to use the kroguard, but if you want to lower your stress level just bring either an acolyte, scorpion, or falcon along with you.

I don't think the combat drone is a big deal, at all.

[hawgwild5757]

I don't like the Geth either, but every enemy has one class that irritates me. Geth had the rocket trooper, Reapers have the Ravager and Cerberus has the Phantom. And while the Ravager isn't "cheap", IMO phantoms are every bit as cheap as rocket troopers. Maybe more so.

That being said, I play against Geth several times tonight with Batarians and I didn't get stunlocked once. In fact, I didn't even get staggered once either.

But I'd like to see enemies adjusted to be difficult for other reasons than they cheat.

[Rem_NL]

Avoid geth at all cost... It is not lore friendly.... 1 get rocket trooper and 1 hunter should be able to stunlock any enemy to death. Its the most feared and hated faction in the entire galaxy... Their tactics are cheap but effective.

[N7 Whiskey]

We found really easy way to shut down the Geth on Gold, but we aren't sharing. We wouldn't want a bunch of people doing it for easy credits only to have BioWare be all like, "SEE the Geth are easy, we must buff them with more health, shields, damage & powers. Time to make it so you can see Prime's Plasma Cannon shots until they are 4 feet from your face."

[CNevarezN]

InvincibleHero wrote...

I don't think anyone can call themselves elite and refuse to play one faction. I don't claim to be elite and they don't bother me a whit. Geth lack sych kills. Played three gold geth from U/U random to extraction today. I used paladin, KV, and bat sol.

If you guys/gals can solo gold/plat as you claim then playing with three others on any level vs. geth should be a snap. Or does that require stacking the deck to accomplish?

I cannot even recall the last geth game that ended in failure for me. Mostly reapers. If I am carrying (I don't always as I am not boss enough with all characters nor am I the best as I have met several better than I) and get wiped/synched it is usually toast because most randoms won't use gear to save the game.

Ravagers are almost equal to geth primes as far as downing you maybe worse because the swarmers can lower shields quickly on the higher levels. IMO Reapers>geth>cerberus.

I might not be as good as some of you, but I still will play U/U and win nearly every time the geth come up. I love the variability because each side requires different strategy to prevail. Sure straight up DPS can work but finesse gets better results.

BW we need the game harder than gold. Ok makes platinum. Now: BW make geth easier. Where's the challenge in that?

Agreed

[CNevarezN]

BuckshotSamurai wrote...


We found really easy way to shut down the Geth on Gold, but we aren't sharing. We wouldn't want a bunch of people doing it for easy credits only to have BioWare be all like, "SEE the Geth are easy, we must buff them with more health, shields, damage & powers. Time to make it so you can see Prime's Plasma Cannon shots until they are 4 feet from your face."

Good for you guy. I also found an easy way to beating the Geth on Gold. Doing what I do best, whooping ass.

 "Found a really easy way to shut down the Geth on Gold?"

 Give me ****ing break.

[Zorinho20_CRO]

I played yesterday vs Geth(U/U) PUG and they are not so bad,we were all biotics,so we destroyed them w BE.I only hate Hunters,´cos they are real force of Geth,not Drone.
And that damn 20 sec timer,I played Indra with shotgun amps!

[nicethugbert]

Because of the incessant Banshee screaming and geth cheese, this game has one faction for me, cerberus.

Modifié par nicethugbert, 05 octobre 2012 - 07:00 .

[nanotm]

its wors than that they sodding well jump /sidestep /roll away to stop you doing a melee attack, and on t op of that if you just performed a heavymelee on a krogaurd your instantly staggared for 2 seconds while 1 hunter manages to pop 2 clips out of his gps into you i mean What The **** were they thinking its 5 x more noticable now than it was before oh and they didnt just make hte pyro ungrabable and able to shoot through all cover they made them have more shields and more armour, i can kill a brute in 1 shot wiht a shadow it takes 3 tries to kill a pyro (it used ot be the other way round with the same gear)

BW is just trolling everyone who liked ot play against geth

[Esther]

This is one of the main reasons why I have started to set the enemy type to either Reapers or Cerberus
when creating a lobby, even though I'd rather be surprised sometimes... 

[sareth_65536]

Lord_Sirian wrote...
 When a hunter stunlocks you to death (because their shots stop you from doing EVERYTHING and they refire before the previous stunlock wears off) that is artificial difficulty. 

I just LOL at how people continue to say this useless crap that is no longer true and don't even want to test it themself.
Crowd instincts...

[SandeProElite]

I agree that the drone's incinerate is pretty cheap. They should just make it into a regular attack without stagger but with burn damage overtime.

[d_nought]

1Magnolie wrote...

This is one of the main reasons why I have started to set the enemy type to either Reapers or Cerberus
when creating a lobby, even though I'd rather be surprised sometimes... 

Like whenever we get Rio?

OT I haven't played against new Geth with a "normal" or previously stagger vulnerable class yet. It sounds pretty daunting, especially the part with the combat drone. I really don't care too much about the "difficulty" of the faction, but projectile triple stunlock needs to gtfo. Ravagers and phantoms don't do this and people don't complain nearly as much. The only other thing which really bothers me is the turrets, I really couldn't care less about pyros, rocket trooper double tap or hunter stagger evasion in and of themselves, it's just the stunlock that bothers me. Even if it's not full stunlock, it still prevents you from reloading, taking cover or running away for a split second, which is all that is required.

[Perlicka]

had few geth games yday (u/u/g) and they weren't to much diffrent from before patch (primes were dieing faster)
i don't like them because of hunters and double/triple rockets but when i get them i try to deal with them

[eltdown]

chipsandwich wrote...
[...] Even if it's not full stunlock, it still prevents you from reloading, taking cover or running away for a split second, which is all that is required.

This. Kroguard, Claymore - Goddess / Geth / Gold. Easy mode...

Except it went something like: shoot Geth, drone staggers me, something then shoots me and now down to health / health gate and not reloaded yet, charge something to prevent being downed and then hope I get time to reload before being staggered again.

Then I played Rio vs Geth (was a  U/U/G PUG) where everyone was camping the middle. Staggered Justicars suck. We wiped on wave 8.

[longgamma]

Geth stunlock is ridiculous. One single hunter dropped me in Plat. He walks up behind me, melees me and fires three shots in quick sucession all the while I could not even move and to top it all ops pack animation comes after I am down. You dont have any chance to retaliate and in maps like Vancouver it is too hard to spot them in many areas.

All of my plat PUGs have been a wipeout due to the hunters. It is not even fair and makes the games so tedious.

[SavagelyEpic]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

sareth_65536 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...
 When a hunter stunlocks you to death (because their shots stop you from doing EVERYTHING and they refire before the previous stunlock wears off) that is artificial difficulty. 

I just LOL at how people continue to say this useless crap that is no longer true and don't even want to test it themself.
Crowd instincts...

It's nothing to do with crowd instincts. It's still completely true. If you're going to attempt to call me a liar then at least provide some arguments to support your claim.

LOL. Idiocy at it's finest.

Want a test? I'll give you a test.

Lone hunter. One bar of health left. No shields. Last enemy. I have full health/shields/ammo.

Shoots me. Stunlock. DAMNIT MAN JUST SHOOT ALREADY HE HAS ONE BAR OF HEALTH LEFT

Shoots me again. Stunlock. FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE ALL I NEED TO DO IS GET ONE BLOODY SHOT OFF

Shoots me again. Stunlock. JUST PULL THE DAMN TRIGGER!

Shoots me again. TEAM MEMBER OFFLINE. MISSION SCRUBBED. WE'RE OUTTA HERE.



...You were saying? Oh, right. It doesn't have anything to do with crowd instincts. You were just trying to be a hipster and prove your superiority over the masses. Well, it didn't work.

0/10.

Modifié par SavagelyEpic, 05 octobre 2012 - 10:01 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

SavagelyEpic wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

sareth_65536 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...
 When a hunter stunlocks you to death (because their shots stop you from doing EVERYTHING and they refire before the previous stunlock wears off) that is artificial difficulty. 

I just LOL at how people continue to say this useless crap that is no longer true and don't even want to test it themself.
Crowd instincts...

It's nothing to do with crowd instincts. It's still completely true. If you're going to attempt to call me a liar then at least provide some arguments to support your claim.

LOL. Idiocy at it's finest.

Want a test? I'll give you a test.

Lone hunter. One bar of health left. No shields. Last enemy. I have full health/shields/ammo.

Shoots me. Stunlock. DAMNIT MAN JUST SHOOT ALREADY HE HAS ONE BAR OF HEALTH LEFT

Shoots me again. Stunlock. FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE ALL I NEED TO DO IS GET ONE BLOODY SHOT OFF

Shoots me again. Stunlock. JUST PULL THE DAMN TRIGGER!

Shoots me again. TEAM MEMBER OFFLINE. MISSION SCRUBBED. WE'RE OUTTA HERE.



...You were saying? Oh, right. It doesn't have anything to do with crowd instincts. You were just trying to be a hipster and prove your superiority over the masses. Well, it didn't work.

0/10.

I think you're quoting the wrong dude 

[SavagelyEpic]

Nah, I was talking to sareth. I'm agreeing with Sirian there.