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[Rawgrim]

If the character wasn\\ t meant to die, they should never have added the option to kill her in the first place. Now she is nothing more than an immortal Mary Sue.

[Lionel Ou]

Giltspur wrote...
If they had to always stick to their first intent when writing, we'd get some serious stream-of-conscioussness BS.

That's why you plan out stuff before hand when you write a trilogy, instead of trying to wing it.

Hopefully they've actually done that, so it won't end up being another ME3.

[Rawgrim]

Lionel Ou wrote...

Giltspur wrote...
If they had to always stick to their first intent when writing, we'd get some serious stream-of-conscioussness BS.

That's why you plan out stuff before hand when you write a trilogy, instead of trying to wing it.

Hopefully they've actually done that, so it won't end up being another ME3.

Dragon Age was never going to be a trilogy, you know. Its just a series of games set in the same universe.

[Darth Death]

Bfler wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Pretty much this. In fact I believe it was said that Leliana was the only thing they retconned for the series, everything else is fair game at the moment.

Wynne also attacks you, if you defile the urn.

If I remember correctly, she just gave me the evil eye & left my party, but then again I didn't bring her along during the mission. 

[Lionel Ou]

Rawgrim wrote...

Lionel Ou wrote...

Giltspur wrote...
If they had to always stick to their first intent when writing, we'd get some serious stream-of-conscioussness BS.

That's why you plan out stuff before hand when you write a trilogy, instead of trying to wing it.

Hopefully they've actually done that, so it won't end up being another ME3.

Dragon Age was never going to be a trilogy, you know. Its just a series of games set in the same universe.

Hopefully, the universe is a logical place

[BouncyFrag]

I once heard that the little nug I gave her had curative powers in its tears. Not unicorn level, mind you, but good nonetheless.

[Bfler]

Darth Death wrote...

Bfler wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Pretty much this. In fact I believe it was said that Leliana was the only thing they retconned for the series, everything else is fair game at the moment.

Wynne also attacks you, if you defile the urn.

If I remember correctly, she just gave me the evil eye & left my party, but then again I didn't bring her along during the mission. 

If she is in the party, she will attack you, like Leliana. And she is also canon alive after Origins until Asunder.

[Kail Ashton]

i thought it was because she's Mike Laidlaw's faverite? CONSPIRACY~!! ....i guess, i dunno, it was a stupid idea letting you kill them anyway, retcon all the companion deaths you want that aren't story relevant (so wynne, zevran, leliana, shale, fenris, merril, aveline & alistair even though you never see him killed so the execution sentence can be more easily written away) story relevant deaths like Loghain & Anders make sense to follow

[Wulfram]

Bfler wrote...

If she is in the party, she will attack you, like Leliana. And she is also canon alive after Origins until Asunder.

Book canon isn't the same as game Canon.  Just because she's in the book, doesn't mean she's alive in games where she's dead.

[Bfler]

Wulfram wrote...

Bfler wrote...

If she is in the party, she will attack you, like Leliana. And she is also canon alive after Origins until Asunder.

Book canon isn't the same as game Canon.  Just because she's in the book, doesn't mean she's alive in games where she's dead.

Asunder is the link between DA2 and 3, so it is canon for the overall story of the DA universe.
The same canon, as if Gaider would come to the forum and explain to you who is dead and who is alive.

Modifié par Bfler, 05 octobre 2012 - 03:49 .

[NovaBlastMarketing]

daffl5 wrote...

 sorry if there is another topic like this.

Am i the only one who thinks that leliana is going to play a MASSIVE role in upcoming DA games? reason's you ask???? ok: she can't really die in DAO, she is working as the divine's right hand, and she seems to be searching for hawke and the warden:huh:

What is she up too???? is she the next andraste with that vision thing???? who knows... what do y'all think:lol:

Nope and  I  hope she she does  and she is a party member  ... best case  senerio   we are playing the  warden again and can conntinue the romance       or if  bioware has "killed" the warden and we are not ever getting him back...   they are broken up  and.....

[Vandicus]

Wulfram wrote...

Bfler wrote...

If she is in the party, she will attack you, like Leliana. And she is also canon alive after Origins until Asunder.

Book canon isn't the same as game Canon.  Just because she's in the book, doesn't mean she's alive in games where she's dead.

"Dead" Wynne shows up in Awakening as well does she not?

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Vandicus wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Bfler wrote...

If she is in the party, she will attack you, like Leliana. And she is also canon alive after Origins until Asunder.

Book canon isn't the same as game Canon.  Just because she's in the book, doesn't mean she's alive in games where she's dead.

"Dead" Wynne shows up in Awakening as well does she not?

Just recently played Awakening with a game which has a dead Wynne. She didn't show up.

[Fiery Phoenix]

She didn't "survive". Her death was retconned.

P.S. I do feel sorry for those who went out of their way and intentionally killed her off.

[thats1evildude]

The Maker brought her back to life.

[Monica83]

my leliana is still wandering with the warden... another thing i disliked of dragon age 2 is those forced sway from the story of the pervious game

[Arokel]

I might be wrong (I never killed her in my playthroughs) but doesn't she die in the room where the Ashes are held?

Regardless whether or not you think Andraste was the prophet of the Maker the fact is that those Ashes hold incredible power.

According to the cardinal laws of magic as long as someone's soul is still in their body they can be revived. Perhaps the Ashes had some effect?

[Beerfish]

If she shows up in DA3 I'll have a tough time putting my thoughts about her from 'Asunder' away.

[Little Princess Peach]

I have to many problems with her I refused to let her come with me twice and she shows up at camp Die already ><

[Kaosbuddy]

Darth Death wrote...

Bfler wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Pretty much this. In fact I believe it was said that Leliana was the only thing they retconned for the series, everything else is fair game at the moment.

Wynne also attacks you, if you defile the urn.

If I remember correctly, she just gave me the evil eye & left my party, but then again I didn't bring her along during the mission. 

You can also kill her 'for real' in the Tower, if you side with Cullen. I guess her Spirit kick-starts her body regardless, for Asunder.

[Centauri2002]

Maybe the appearance of Leliana after DA:O isn't actually Leliana. <insert dramatic music here> Perhaps some malevolent force is merely masquerading as her.


...what? It's just a theory!

Modifié par centauri2002, 05 octobre 2012 - 07:47 .

[Cutlass Jack]

Answer: Duct tape.

Secondary Answer: to annoy the people who had a playthrough where she not only died, but via beheading. If someone killed her, it was always beheading by some strange coincidence. Even if they were playing a staff wielding mage at the time, her head refused to stay attached to her shoulders.

[Giltspur]

DA2 showed us that Flemeth is a lich. 
DA2 showed us that Flemeth has more than one human form.
DA2 also showed us there can be more than one Flemeth.  (How?  Well, in a game where Flemeth isn't killed by the Warden, Hawke still resurrects Flemeth, meaning there are at least two Flemeths.  Oh ho.)
DA2 also showed us that "dead" Leliana's can be alive.

The conclusion is obvious: Leliana is one of the Flemeths. Specifically, she's Flemeth's way into the Chantry and is the one that sets off the attack at the start of DA3.  In DA2, Leliana doesn't know where the Warden is because she actually knows (because she's Flemeth) but doesn't let Hawke know that she knows.  Shale is Flemeth in a Golem's body.  The Idol is a shrunk-up version of Flemeth.  The summonable Mabari in DA2 day-one DLC was Flemeth.  That army of "Morrigans" in the DA2 trailer?  Yeah, just a bunch of Flemeths.  It turns out more people are Flemeth than not.

Modifié par Giltspur, 05 octobre 2012 - 08:05 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

Gaider insists it makes sense. We just don't know how yet.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Pedrak wrote...

It's called "retcon".

Yep. People on this board really need to get a grip and understand that BioWare likes to retcon things.