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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

What? I agree with you. I think Alistair's mother is the scully maid. My point was the humans and human/elf hybrids look very different.


Slim Couldry is the smoking gun here.  Match Slim's picture up to Alistair.  They defintely look different, but neither looks elven.

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AbsoluteApril wrote...

The skull structure of both of them are very different from Fey if you compare them side-by-side. There are features that specifically only available to elves. Their faces are long, but not to the extend of Fey. His skull is also protruding out more like an elf rather than a human. The ears are not the indication, but if you can't see it then you can't see it, I guess. :huh:

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Bfler wrote...

What's more funny is, that in Stolen Throne, Maric is with Flemeth alone in her hut for a while. After that he seems a bit distracted. If he had to impregnate Flemeth, Morrigan would be Alistair's sister, what would mean, that he sleeps with his own sister during the ritual.

And who said Dragon Age isn't dark? :police:

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I assumed his father would tell him in the comics. So I don't see why his potential discovery of who his mother is should be mentioned in DA3 unless he's in your party. Fiona is fighting in the Mage v.s. Templar war, so I wouldn't be surprised if we bumped into her.

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Ericander77 wrote...

I assumed his father would tell him in the comics. So I don't see why his potential discovery of who his mother is should be mentioned in DA3 unless he's in your party. Fiona is fighting in the Mage v.s. Templar war, so I wouldn't be surprised if we bumped into her.

She might be a playable companion. :P

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Ericander77 wrote...

I assumed his father would tell him in the comics. So I don't see why his potential discovery of who his mother is should be mentioned in DA3 unless he's in your party. Fiona is fighting in the Mage v.s. Templar war, so I wouldn't be surprised if we bumped into her.


Well, if it turned out the King of Fereldan was the son of the leader of the Mage rebels, that would be pretty big continent wide news.

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It's an interesting plot, absolutely. That said, it is immaterial knowledge to the Inquisition and to the Inquisitor. The time to find out would have been when Alistair wasn't [possibly dead] [possibly a grey warden] [possibly king] [never again a companion]

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Bfler wrote...

What's more funny is, that in Stolen Throne, Maric is with Flemeth alone in her hut for a while. After that he seems a bit distracted. If he had to impregnate Flemeth, Morrigan would be Alistair's sister, what would mean, that he sleeps with his own sister during the ritual.

It sounds like a game made by BSN. Image IPB

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So does this mean Goldanna isn't really his sister? The child the king had with that servant really did die, and they just told Alistair he was that servants child instead of the truth?


EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Bfler wrote...

What's
more funny is, that in Stolen Throne, Maric is with Flemeth alone in
her hut for a while. After that he seems a bit distracted. If he had to
impregnate Flemeth, Morrigan would be Alistair's sister, what would
mean, that he sleeps with his own sister during the ritual.

It sounds like a game made by BSN. Image IPB


Well King Arthur of myth impregnated his half sister who was named Morrigan, they might be going for that intentionally

Modifié par Eveangaline, 05 octobre 2012 - 10:20 .


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Bfler wrote...

What's more funny is, that in Stolen Throne, Maric is with Flemeth alone in her hut for a while. After that he seems a bit distracted. If he had to impregnate Flemeth, Morrigan would be Alistair's sister, what would mean, that he sleeps with his own sister during the ritual.


hahahahahaha, i often think of that as wellImage IPB

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Wulfram wrote...
I dislike the idea, because it's not hinted at at all in the game, and makes the whole "Alistair talks to his annoying sister" quest rather pointless.

And I don't see why Alistair has to have a cool mum.

I'd think he and a Warden LI would find it quite a relief to know that that shrew was not really his sister.  <_<

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I don't "know" that Fiona is Alistair's mother. Until it's explicitly confirmed one way or the other, I'm going for the simplest explanation: Maric was a giant man-****, and there's several if not dozens of illegitimate Theirins running around Thedas.

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I happen to believe that Fiona is Alistair's mother, since I don't think Maric would be one to fool around with scullery maids from what we've seen of him. And half-elves have human features in the Dragon Age universe, Feynriel in DA2 was just slim for a human, which probably came from his father's side somewhere.

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Feynriel said he didn't fit in, however most knew his mother was an elf, also add in that he acted as if he did not belong. If you act as if you don't belong you will be treated differently, if you think you don't belong you will percieve people as treating you differently even if they don't.

As for Alister's mother, doesn't matter really.

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On the elf/human hybrid appearance, wasn't it quite a huge deal that these hybrids became completely human? In the DA lore, this is (combined with the decline in immortality) the reason why the elves withdrew from human society way back before mankind enslaved the elves. So this being retconned doesn't sound plausible, it was most likely a mistake.

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Bfler wrote...

What's more funny is, that in Stolen Throne, Maric is with Flemeth alone in her hut for a while. After that he seems a bit distracted. If he had to impregnate Flemeth, Morrigan would be Alistair's sister, what would mean, that he sleeps with his own sister during the ritual.


While there are also timeline things that may disprove that (as with Fiona) it would make sense and add something to that plotline.  I also wonder if it's coincidence her name is Morrigan, similar to Morgana (or Morgan Le Fay, Morgaine, etc.), King Arthur's sister whom he had a child by (in some versions of the legend).  That child, Mordred, of course becoming something of a thorn for King Arthur.

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I hope Fiona is not his mother. Alistair deserves better, and yes, a dead woman he never knew is better. I couldn't stand her in either book. IMO she's no better than Flemeth. Maybe she had a reasonable moment or two, but I think she's cold and hard. And that's how she wants to be.

Here's a twist, everybody talks about the OGB. What if Fiona's son was one of the guards battling the Archdemon? He has some taint, but it's not a result of the Joining and made him eligible to receive the old god's soul. Poor Morrigan, she may have had sex with Alistair for nothing. LOL

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QueenPurpleScrap wrote...
Here's a twist, everybody talks about the OGB. What if Fiona's son was one of the guards battling the Archdemon? He has some taint, but it's not a result of the Joining and made him eligible to receive the old god's soul. Poor Morrigan, she may have had sex with Alistair for nothing. LOL


The only reason the OGB worked was because it was in a fresh fetus with no soul. If it went into someone who already had a soul (like a gray warden, or your theoretically tainted person) it would destroy both the warden and the old gods soul, and something she did must have attracted the Old gods soul, otherwise it would have gone into the nearest source of taint at it's death (the warden that killed it)

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I was wondering this exact thing, OP. So, you're not alone on that. Even if he doesn't know (and never figures it out on his own), it could be possible they could cross paths and I, personally, would be totally cool with that.

Granted, she had some good reasons of her own for wanting Alistair's true lineage to be obscured from him, so whether she would recognize him and reveal their relationship, I don't know...and who else would know that is still alive? Even Eamon, though complicit in Alistair's fake origin, might not have known the true identity of his biological mother.

Anyway, one more good DA loose end to wonder about and hope they address. :)

Edit: Addendum, that is assuming that she IS his mother, as many people have concluded (and Gaider seems to have hinted at, but not confirmed 100%), though I do acknowledge that technically we don't know this for sure and it is possible that another Theirin bastard is wandering around somewhere. Do you think they feed him cakes to keep him content? ;P

Modifié par LadyWench, 07 octobre 2012 - 03:58 .


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Eveangaline wrote...

QueenPurpleScrap wrote...
Here's a twist, everybody talks about the OGB. What if Fiona's son was one of the guards battling the Archdemon? He has some taint, but it's not a result of the Joining and made him eligible to receive the old god's soul. Poor Morrigan, she may have had sex with Alistair for nothing. LOL


The only reason the OGB worked was because it was in a fresh fetus with no soul. If it went into someone who already had a soul (like a gray warden, or your theoretically tainted person) it would destroy both the warden and the old gods soul, and something she did must have attracted the Old gods soul, otherwise it would have gone into the nearest source of taint at it's death (the warden that killed it)


That's as far as Riordan or even Morrigan know. A child created in the taint, as it were, might have other changes or abilities that neither could know about because it is hardly a typical occurrence. Maybe it would more a merging, like Justice/Anders. Though quite likely not invited. But who knows? I think it's fun to think about!